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Hi everyone! I'm brand new to this community but had to jump in because I literally just experienced this exact same thing last month. My SSA verification letter showed $1,756 but my actual deposit was $1,755. I was applying for a home equity line of credit and when I brought up the $1 discrepancy, the loan processor immediately said "Oh right, that's the Social Security rounding issue - we have a standard procedure for this." She explained that their underwriting team sees it so frequently they don't even flag it anymore as long as the difference is just a dollar or two. It's incredibly reassuring to read through all these responses and see how universal this SSA quirk really is! Whether it's mortgages, car loans, rentals, or banking, it seems like every financial institution already knows about this rounding vs truncation difference. Your foreign bank should definitely be familiar with it too, but having a simple explanation ready is always wise. Thanks for posting this - it's been really helpful to see everyone confirming this is just normal SSA practice!

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Welcome to the community! Your home equity line of credit experience is really valuable to share - it's amazing that the loan processor said they have a standard procedure for this and don't even flag it anymore! That really shows how routine this SSA documentation difference has become across all types of lending. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been so educational - from mortgages to personal loans to rentals to banking, it's clear that financial professionals everywhere just expect to see this $1-2 discrepancy with Social Security verification letters. I'm feeling much more confident about my international banking situation now knowing this is such a widely recognized quirk of the SSA system. Thanks for adding another real-world example!

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Hi everyone! I'm new to this community but wanted to share my experience since I just dealt with this exact same situation a couple weeks ago. My SSA verification letter showed $1,967 but my actual monthly deposit was $1,966. I was refinancing my mortgage and when I mentioned the $1 difference to my loan officer, she immediately said "Oh that's completely normal with Social Security - we see that discrepancy constantly because their verification letters round up while the actual payments truncate any cents." She told me their processing team is so familiar with this SSA quirk that they have it documented in their standard procedures. It's really reassuring to read through all these responses and see how widespread this issue is! From what everyone's sharing here about mortgages, car loans, rentals, and banking, it's clear that financial institutions across the board already know about this rounding versus payment difference. Your foreign bank should definitely understand too, especially since this seems to be such a well-known aspect of Social Security documentation. Having a simple explanation ready is smart advice though. Good luck with your international account setup!

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Welcome to the community! As a newcomer, I wanted to share some encouragement after reading through all these helpful responses. Your situation is actually more common than you might think - many seniors find themselves in that frustrating "gap" where their Social Security is just slightly above certain benefit thresholds. What really stands out to me from everyone's advice is that even if SSI doesn't work out due to the income limits, you have several other promising options that could provide real financial relief. The Medicare Savings Program alone could save you over $2,000 annually, and the Extra Help program for prescription drugs could save thousands more. Combined with the benefits counseling services that can help identify local programs you might not know about, you could see a significant improvement in your financial situation. I'm impressed by how proactive you're being in seeking out information and resources. The fact that you're already successfully receiving SNAP benefits shows you have the skills to navigate these systems. Don't let the complexity discourage you - take it one application at a time, and remember that even small wins (like saving on Medicare premiums) can add up to major relief in your monthly budget. Keep us posted on how your applications go - your experience could help other seniors in similar situations!

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Welcome @Aurora Lacasse! Thank you so much for the encouragement - it really means a lot to hear that my situation is common and that I'm not alone in this. Reading through everyone's responses has been eye-opening. When I first posted, I was focused solely on SSI and feeling pretty discouraged about the income limits. But now I realize there's a whole network of programs I never knew existed that could really help my situation. The Medicare Savings Program and Extra Help for prescriptions could potentially save me thousands each year, which would be absolutely life-changing on my current budget. I'm planning to start making calls tomorrow and will definitely keep the community updated on how things go. Hopefully my experience can help other seniors who might be in similar situations. This community has been incredibly supportive and informative - I'm so glad I found this place!

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Welcome to the community! I'm new here but wanted to share some resources that might help. Even though your $1,142 Social Security puts you right at the edge of SSI eligibility, there are actually several pathways worth exploring. First, I'd recommend calling 211 (or visiting 211.org) - it's a free service that connects you with local assistance programs in your area. They often know about county-specific programs for seniors that aren't widely advertised. Also, since you mentioned you don't drive anymore, check if your county has a Senior Ride program or medical transport vouchers. Many Florida counties offer free or low-cost transportation specifically for seniors going to medical appointments or essential errands like grocery shopping and banking. One thing I learned from helping my grandmother is that timing can matter with these applications. If you have any months where your expenses are unusually high (like if you need dental work or have to replace appliances), your net available income might dip enough to qualify for certain programs during those specific months. The community here has given you excellent advice about the Medicare Savings Programs and benefits counseling - those should definitely be your first priority since they have the best chance of approval and biggest financial impact. Good luck with everything!

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Welcome @ApolloJackson! Thank you for mentioning the 211 service - I had no idea that existed! Having a single number to call for local assistance programs sounds incredibly helpful, especially since it seems like there are so many different agencies and programs to keep track of. I'm definitely going to call them after I work through the Medicare Savings Program and Elder Helpline contacts everyone mentioned. The point about timing is really interesting too - I do have some upcoming dental work that Medicare doesn't cover, so maybe that could affect my eligibility during those months. And yes, finding senior transportation options would be a huge help since rideshares are eating into my budget every time I need to go somewhere. Thank you for adding even more resources to my growing list - this community really is amazing at helping people find assistance they didn't even know existed!

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Congratulations on your retirement! Just wanted to add one more consideration that might be relevant to your situation. Since you mentioned depreciation recapture of about $92,000, make sure your tax preparer properly categorizes this on your return. While depreciation recapture is generally treated as capital gains (which doesn't count toward the earnings test), there can be some nuances depending on how your business was structured and whether any portion might be considered ordinary income. Also, when you do apply in January 2025, make sure to have all your 2024 tax documents ready. The SSA will want to see your final W-2 and tax return to verify your actual earned income for the earnings test calculation. Since you're planning to use Claimyr to speak with an agent, you might also ask them about the special monthly earnings test that can sometimes apply in your first year of retirement - it might provide some additional flexibility if your circumstances change. Good luck with your retirement planning!

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This is really helpful information, especially about the depreciation recapture categorization! I hadn't thought about potential nuances in how it might be classified. My accountant handled the business structure as an S-Corp, so hopefully that keeps things cleaner, but I'll definitely make sure we review exactly how everything is categorized on the tax return. The special monthly earnings test sounds interesting too - I'll add that to my list of questions when I call the SSA. Thanks for the thorough advice!

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is Medicare considerations. Since you're planning to retire at 62, you won't be eligible for Medicare until 65. If your business provided health insurance, make sure you have a plan for coverage during those 3 years. You might be eligible for COBRA from your business (if it had enough employees), or you'll need to look into ACA marketplace plans. This is especially important since you're planning to delay Social Security until 2025 - you want to make sure your healthcare costs are factored into your retirement budget. The good news is that your 2024 high income year shouldn't affect Medicare premiums since those are based on income from 2 years prior.

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That's a really important point I hadn't considered! You're absolutely right about the Medicare gap. Since my business was small (just me and a couple part-time employees), I won't qualify for COBRA. I'll need to look into marketplace plans for 2025-2027. Do you know if the premium tax credits are based on current year income or prior year? With my 2024 income spike, I'm wondering if that might affect my eligibility for subsidies in 2025.

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my brother told me that the cola increases are only for people already getting benefits and that the ssa uses some wierd formula for everyone else but sounds like he was wrong!!!!

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Your brother was confusing two different aspects of Social Security. The COLA is applied to everyone's PIA calculation annually, regardless of claiming status. What he might be thinking of is that the benefit formula itself is based on your 35 highest-earning years, and those past earnings are indexed for wage growth (not COLA) before calculating your initial benefit amount. It gets confusing because SSA uses different types of adjustments for different purposes!

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Just wanted to add my perspective as someone who's been through this process! I delayed claiming until 70 last year and can confirm that the COLA increases definitely applied to my benefits during the waiting period. What I found helpful was creating a spreadsheet where I tracked my estimated benefit with conservative COLA projections (I used 2.5% annually) versus more optimistic ones (3.5%). The actual increases ended up being somewhere in between, but having that range helped me feel more confident about my retirement budget. One tip: don't forget that Medicare Part B premiums are often deducted from your Social Security payments, and those premiums can increase annually too. It's a smaller factor but worth including in your planning calculations. Good luck with your decision to wait until 70 - the delayed retirement credits plus COLAs really do make a meaningful difference!

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Thanks for sharing your real-world experience and the spreadsheet tip! As someone new to thinking about Social Security planning, I really appreciate the practical advice about modeling different COLA scenarios. The Medicare Part B deduction is something I hadn't considered yet - that's a great point that those premiums can eat into the benefit increases. Do you happen to remember roughly how much the Medicare premiums went up year over year during your waiting period? I'm trying to get a sense of whether that's a significant factor or more of a minor adjustment to account for.

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This entire discussion has been incredibly valuable! As someone who's 69 and turning 70 in August, I've been losing sleep over the backdating rules and timing. Reading through everyone's experiences and explanations has really put my mind at ease. What I'm taking away is that the backdating confusion mostly comes from people who wait too long after turning 70 to apply. Since I plan to apply right in August when I turn 70, I should just select August as my start month and not worry about backdating at all. One small thing I wanted to add - for anyone else in a similar boat, I called the SSA general number last week just to confirm my earnings record was accurate, and they mentioned that you can also check your benefit estimate online through your my Social Security account. It's helpful to know exactly what to expect before you apply, especially since we're all maxed out on delayed retirement credits at 70. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and knowledge here. This thread should definitely be pinned or saved as a reference for others approaching 70!

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I completely agree this thread should be saved as a reference! As someone who's completely new to Social Security planning (still in my early 60s), reading through everyone's real experiences has been so much more helpful than trying to decipher the official SSA website. The key insight that keeps coming up is that the backdating "problem" really only exists if you delay applying past 70 - which seems like an easy mistake to avoid once you know about it. It's also reassuring to see how many people successfully navigated this process by just applying right at 70. I'm definitely going to bookmark this discussion and probably re-read it when I get closer to my own 70th birthday. Thanks to everyone who shared their stories - it really helps to learn from people who've actually been through it rather than just reading government explanations that can be confusing!

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This thread has been absolutely fantastic! I'm 67 and have been dreading dealing with Social Security applications, but reading through everyone's experiences here has made me feel so much more confident about the process. What really stands out to me is how the "backdating confusion" seems to be mostly a non-issue if you just apply right when you turn 70. It sounds like the SSA makes it seem more complicated than it needs to be, but the reality is pretty straightforward: apply at 70, select that month as your start date, done. I also appreciate all the practical tips people shared - applying online, having documents ready beforehand, setting up direct deposit, and applying early in the month for processing time. These are the kinds of real-world details you don't get from official guidance. One thing I'm curious about - has anyone here had experience with applying if you're still working at 70? I'm planning to keep working part-time after I turn 70, and I want to make sure that doesn't complicate the application process or affect my benefits since I'll be past full retirement age.

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Great question about working at 70! From what I understand, once you reach age 70, you can work as much as you want without any earnings limit affecting your Social Security benefits. The earnings test that applies to people who claim benefits before full retirement age doesn't apply once you hit 70, so your part-time work shouldn't complicate your application or reduce your monthly payments at all. In fact, if you continue working and paying Social Security taxes after you start receiving benefits, those earnings could potentially increase your future benefit amount if they're higher than some of your previous years' earnings (though the impact would likely be small since you're already at the maximum delayed retirement credit). The application process should be the same whether you're working or not - just apply right when you turn 70, select that month as your start date, and you should be good to go. Your work status shouldn't add any complications to the timing or backdating questions that everyone's been discussing here!

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