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As someone who's been through this exact scenario, I can confirm what others have said - SSA doesn't make proactive projections based on your early-year earnings. They work with actual reported data. However, I'd strongly recommend setting up a my Social Security account online if you don't already have one. You can monitor your earnings record there and see what's been reported by your employer throughout the year. One thing to keep in mind with retail work is that your employer reports wages quarterly, so there might be a slight delay in what shows up in SSA's system versus your actual pay dates. This is usually not an issue, but it's good to be aware of the timing. Your plan to scale back hours later in the year should work perfectly with both the annual and monthly earnings tests.
This is really helpful information about the my Social Security online account - I didn't realize I could monitor my earnings record there throughout the year! That would definitely give me peace of mind to see what's actually been reported versus what I think should be reported. The point about quarterly reporting delays is also good to know, especially since I'm trying to carefully track everything month by month. I'll definitely set up that online account so I can keep an eye on things. It sounds like between that and keeping detailed records on my end, I should be able to stay on top of any potential issues before they become problems.
One additional consideration for your situation - since you're working retail, make sure you understand how any potential overtime or holiday pay might affect your monthly earnings calculations. Retail often has busy periods (like back-to-school or holidays) where extra hours or premium pay could push you over that $1,950 monthly limit even if your regular schedule keeps you under it. Also, if your employer offers any bonuses or commissions, those count toward your earnings limit too. I learned this the hard way when a small year-end bonus pushed me just over the annual limit one year. Just something to keep in the back of your mind as you plan out your work schedule for the rest of 2025!
That's a really important point about overtime and holiday pay that I hadn't considered! Since I'm planning to work more hours in the first part of the year during inventory season, there's definitely a chance I could get some overtime pay during those busy weeks. And you're absolutely right about bonuses - even small ones can add up and potentially push you over the limits unexpectedly. I'll make sure to ask my manager about any potential bonuses or premium pay periods when I start, so I can factor those into my earnings tracking. It's better to know about these possibilities upfront rather than be surprised by them later. Thanks for sharing your experience with the year-end bonus situation - that's exactly the kind of thing I want to avoid!
I'm new to this community and really appreciate how thoroughly everyone has addressed your complex situation. As someone just beginning to understand Social Security benefits, this discussion has been incredibly educational. What strikes me most is the consistent theme across all responses: the importance of getting accurate, written documentation from SSA. It's alarming how many people have shared experiences of receiving contradictory information from different representatives, especially for nuanced situations like disabled widow benefits transitioning to regular benefits. The key insights I'm taking away for your situation are: 1. At FRA (likely 67), you should receive 100% of your husband's benefit amount 2. After FRA, unlimited earnings are allowed without benefit reduction 3. The transition is mostly administrative, but benefit amounts can change 4. Crucially, you should request calculations for BOTH your widow's benefits AND your own work record at FRA That last point from @Zainab Ibrahim seems particularly important - even with limited self-employment income over 11+ years, you might have accumulated enough credits to qualify for higher benefits on your own record. SSA is supposed to automatically give you whichever is higher, but apparently they sometimes miss this. The practical advice about requesting Technical Experts who specialize in survivor benefits rather than general reps, and services like Claimyr for reaching knowledgeable agents more efficiently, could save you significant time and frustration. Your persistence in seeking clear answers despite months of confusion is truly admirable. Thank you for sharing your experience - it's helping newcomers like me understand the importance of self-advocacy in navigating these complex systems. I hope you get the definitive, written guidance you deserve soon!
Hi Sofia! I'm also new to this community and have been following this entire discussion with fascination. As someone just starting to learn about Social Security benefits, I've found this thread incredibly valuable - not just for the technical information, but for understanding how to navigate the system effectively. What really resonates with me is how @Dmitry Petrov s'situation has brought together so many experienced community members who ve'shared both their knowledge and personal experiences. The consistency across multiple responses about getting everything in writing, requesting Technical Experts, and having both benefit scenarios calculated at FRA gives me confidence that this is solid advice. I m'particularly struck by the point about SSA sometimes missing the comparison between widow s'benefits and your own work record. It makes me realize how important it is to be an informed advocate for yourself rather than assuming the system will automatically do what s'best for you. The practical tips shared here - like using services to reach knowledgeable reps more quickly, bringing SSA website printouts to appointments to support your case, and specifically asking for survivor benefit specialists - are exactly the kind of real-world guidance you can t'get from official websites. Thank you to everyone who s'contributed to this discussion, especially Dmitry for sharing such a personal and complex situation. This conversation is helping newcomers like us understand that navigating Social Security requires persistence, documentation, and community support!
I'm brand new to this community and still learning about Social Security benefits, but I wanted to thank you for sharing such a detailed and personal situation. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly educational for someone like me who's trying to understand how these systems work. What really stands out from this entire discussion is how many experienced members have emphasized the same key points: - Getting everything documented in writing from SSA is absolutely crucial - At your FRA (likely 67), you should receive 100% of your husband's benefit - After FRA, you can earn unlimited income without any benefit reduction - The suggestion to have SSA calculate BOTH your widow's benefits AND your own work record at FRA could potentially save you thousands I'm honestly shocked by how many people have shared stories of getting contradictory information from SSA representatives. It really highlights why communities like this are so valuable - when official channels are inconsistent, peer support and shared experiences become essential. The practical advice here has been amazing too - requesting Technical Experts who specialize in survivor benefits, using services like Claimyr to reach knowledgeable reps faster, and bringing documentation to support your case. These are the kinds of real-world strategies you just don't get from official websites. Your persistence in seeking clear answers while managing everything else you're dealing with is really inspiring. Thank you for helping newcomers like me understand how important it is to be our own advocates when navigating these complex benefit systems. I hope you finally get the definitive, written guidance you deserve!
I'm going through a very similar situation and this discussion has been incredibly enlightening! My ex-husband is 3 years younger than me and won't turn 62 until early 2027. We were married for 14 years, and I've been collecting my own modest retirement benefits for about 18 months now. One thing I wanted to ask - has anyone here had experience with getting an estimate of what their divorced spouse benefit might be before actually applying? I know SSA can provide benefit estimates, but I'm not sure if they can estimate the divorced spouse benefit amount without my ex's cooperation or knowledge. It would be helpful to know roughly what increase I might expect so I can plan my finances better. Also, I've been keeping detailed records of all my interactions with SSA representatives, including names, dates, and what they told me. Given how many people here have mentioned getting different answers from different reps, I figure having a paper trail might be useful when I eventually apply. Thanks to everyone for sharing your experiences and knowledge - this thread should be bookmarked by anyone dealing with divorced spouse benefits!
Great question about getting benefit estimates! Unfortunately, SSA typically can't provide divorced spouse benefit estimates without your ex's cooperation since they need to access his earnings record. However, you might be able to get a rough idea by requesting your own Social Security Statement (which shows your benefit history) and comparing it to what you remember about his career earnings level. Some people have had luck asking SSA representatives hypothetical questions like "if someone earned X amount over Y years, what would 50% of their benefit be?" but results vary by rep. Your idea about keeping detailed records is excellent - I wish I had done that! Having names, dates, and what each rep told you will definitely help if you get conflicting information later. It's also smart that you're planning so far ahead for 2027. You might want to check in with SSA annually to confirm the rules haven't changed, though the basic divorced spouse benefit requirements have been pretty stable for years.
I'm a benefits counselor who works with divorced individuals navigating Social Security, and I wanted to add a few clarifications to this excellent discussion. First, you're absolutely correct that your ex must be 62 before you can claim divorced spouse benefits, regardless of whether he's actually collecting. The confusion often comes from the fact that for CURRENT spouse benefits, the worker must be receiving benefits, but for DIVORCED spouse benefits, they only need to be eligible (age 62+). A few additional points that might help: - When you do apply in December 2025, consider filing the application in the month he turns 62, not necessarily waiting until after his birthday. SSA can process it to begin payments the month he reaches 62. - If you're receiving survivors benefits from a previous spouse who died, divorced spouse benefits might not increase your total payment due to how SSA coordinates different benefit types. - Keep your divorce decree easily accessible - SSA will need to verify the marriage duration and that the divorce is final. The system can be frustrating with inconsistent phone responses, but the core rules are clear: 10+ year marriage, both spouses 62+, and you must be unmarried. You're well-prepared with your 22-year marriage and having his SSN ready!
I just want to add one more important consideration that I learned the hard way - make sure you understand exactly when your survivor benefits will start if you apply at 67. There can be a delay between when you file and when you receive your first payment, and the timing matters for your strategy. Also, keep detailed records of everything! When I was navigating this process after my spouse passed, having documentation of all my conversations with SSA representatives was incredibly helpful. Different reps sometimes gave slightly different information, so being able to reference previous conversations helped me stay consistent with my plan. Your strategy sounds exactly right based on what you've described. The fact that you're still working and have a solid earnings record puts you in a great position to maximize this approach. Just make sure to file for the survivor benefits a few months before you turn 67 so there are no delays in getting that income stream started while you wait for your own benefit to grow.
This is such valuable advice about the timing and documentation! I hadn't thought about filing a few months before turning 67 to avoid any payment delays. That's definitely something I'll keep in mind. The documentation tip is really smart too - I can already see how having everything written down would be helpful given how complex these rules are. I'm actually starting a folder now to keep track of all my research and any conversations I have with SSA representatives. Thank you for sharing your experience navigating this process. It's reassuring to hear from someone who has actually been through it successfully. These practical details about timing and record-keeping are exactly the kind of real-world advice that makes all the difference when you're trying to execute a strategy like this.
One more thing to keep in mind - if you're planning to continue working until 67 while collecting survivor benefits, make sure you understand how the earnings test works. Since you'll be at your FRA when you start collecting survivor benefits, your earnings won't reduce those benefits. But it's worth double-checking this with SSA since the rules can be tricky. Also, I'd recommend getting everything in writing when you speak with SSA representatives. You can request written confirmation of your benefit estimates and the timing for switching from survivor benefits to your own retirement benefit at 70. This creates a paper trail in case there are any questions or discrepancies later. Your approach is definitely one of the smartest strategies for maximizing lifetime Social Security income as a widow. The key is just making sure all the numbers work in your favor before you commit to the plan. It sounds like you're doing all the right research!
This is excellent advice about getting everything in writing! I've learned from other government benefit situations that having documentation can save you so much hassle down the road. I'm curious though - when you request written confirmation from SSA, do they typically provide that through mail or can you get it through your online my Social Security account? I'd prefer to have digital copies if possible since they're easier to organize and won't get lost. The earnings test clarification is really helpful too. Since I'm planning to work right up until my FRA at 67, I want to make absolutely sure that won't impact my survivor benefits once I start claiming them. It's one of those details that could really mess up the whole strategy if I get it wrong!
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wait i just realized something do you have a health savings account HSA with your work plan?? if you do, once you have ANY medicare (even just part A) you CANNOT contribute to HSA anymore!!! found this out hardway
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Aurora St.Pierre
•Yes, you need to stop HSA contributions immediately when Medicare Part A begins. Contact your HR department ASAP to stop payroll deductions and any employer matching contributions. The IRS considers you enrolled in Medicare Part A from the first day you're eligible (usually your 65th birthday) even if you apply for Social Security later. You may need to withdraw any "excess contributions" made after your Medicare eligibility date to avoid tax penalties.
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Yara Elias
•This HSA issue is really important and catches a lot of people off guard! @JacksonHarris since you mentioned you already received your Medicare Part A card, you're technically already enrolled. You should immediately contact your payroll/benefits department to stop all HSA contributions (both yours and any employer match) effective from when your Part A coverage began. Also, keep all your existing HSA funds - you can still use them for qualified medical expenses tax-free, you just can't add any new money. The good news is your existing HSA balance can help cover any out-of-pocket costs not covered by your employer plan or Medicare!
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Aisha Rahman
Just wanted to add one more thing that might help - when you apply for Social Security benefits, they'll ask about your current work situation during the application process. Be completely honest about your part-time employment and income. Since you're at FRA, it won't reduce your benefits at all, but accurate reporting helps ensure everything is processed smoothly. I'd also suggest keeping good records of your work hours and pay stubs, especially during your first few months of collecting benefits, just in case SS ever has questions. The combination of SS benefits + part-time work income can be a great financial setup at FRA!
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