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I'm so sorry for your loss and everything you're going through right now. The combination of grief and navigating these complex benefit rules is overwhelming. Based on what you've shared, I'd strongly recommend bringing a few key documents to your SSA appointment: your husband's death certificate, your marriage certificate, and any records of his police pension amount. Since he worked 12-15 years paying into Social Security before joining the police force, there's a real possibility he earned enough credits for you to receive some survivor benefits, even with the GPO reduction. The fact that you're getting conflicting information over the phone is unfortunately common - getting an in-person appointment for an official determination is definitely the right approach. Also, please don't give up on that $255 death benefit - as his current spouse living with him at the time of death, you should be entitled to it regardless of his ex-wife's status. Take care of yourself during this difficult time.

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This is such thoughtful advice, Sophia. I'm dealing with a similar situation with my late father's benefits and the documentation you mentioned is exactly what I needed to gather. @6021399eecdb - I hope your appointment goes well tomorrow. One thing I learned is to ask specifically for a "technical expert" if the first person you speak with seems unsure about WEP/GPO calculations. These rules are so complex that not all SSA staff are fully trained on them. Also, consider bringing a notebook to write down exactly what they tell you - grief brain is real and it's easy to forget important details. Wishing you strength during this difficult process.

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I'm so deeply sorry for your loss, and I can only imagine how overwhelming this must feel while you're still grieving. The WEP/GPO rules are incredibly confusing even for people who aren't dealing with loss. Based on what you've shared, you absolutely should pursue this further - don't let phone representatives discourage you from applying. With 12-15 years of Social Security-covered work, your husband likely earned enough quarters to qualify for his own Social Security benefits (you need 40 quarters/10 years). Even though WEP would have reduced his benefit amount, if he qualified for ANY Social Security retirement benefit, you should be eligible for survivor benefits - they'll just be reduced by the GPO formula (2/3 of your pension amount). Also, please fight for that $255 death benefit - the ex-wife being the life insurance beneficiary has nothing to do with the Social Security death benefit, which goes to the surviving spouse who was living with the deceased. Bring your marriage certificate and his death certificate, and don't leave without an official written determination. You deserve clear answers during this difficult time.

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Andre, this is exactly the kind of detailed explanation that's so helpful. I wanted to add that in Massachusetts specifically, there are some additional resources that might help. The MA Dept of Elder Affairs has SHINE counselors (Serving the Health Insurance Needs of Everyone) who are trained specifically on Medicare and Social Security issues, including the complex WEP/GPO calculations. They offer free one-on-one counseling and can even accompany you to SSA appointments if needed. You can find a local SHINE counselor at mass.gov/shine-program. @6021399eecdb - also wanted to mention that if your husband was a union member through his police work, the union might have benefits counselors who understand these pension offset rules well. They sometimes have experience helping surviving spouses navigate exactly this situation. Don't give up - you have advocates out there who want to help you get what you're entitled to.

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I work part-time for the Social Security Administration and can confirm everything that's been shared here - no enrollment periods for retirement benefits! You can literally apply any day of the year once you hit 62. Since you mentioned health concerns, I'd strongly suggest calling SSA at 1-800-772-1213 to discuss your specific situation. We can look at your exact earnings record and show you the precise benefit amounts at different claiming ages, plus discuss any survivor benefit implications if you're married. One small correction to something mentioned earlier - the reduction for claiming at 65 instead of 67 is actually calculated monthly, so it's about 13.33% reduction, but that's permanent for life. However, if you're dealing with health issues, getting 24 months of payments earlier could very well be the smart financial move. Also, don't forget that your Medicare premiums will be deducted from your Social Security payments automatically once you start receiving them, which simplifies things. The whole process really is designed to be flexible and accommodate people's changing circumstances - that's exactly why we don't have restricted enrollment periods like Medicare does.

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This is incredibly helpful information, especially coming from someone who works at SSA! I really appreciate you taking the time to clarify everything. The fact that you can look at actual earnings records rather than estimates when I call makes that phone consultation sound even more valuable. I had no idea that Medicare premiums would be automatically deducted - that's actually really convenient since I'm already enrolled. Your point about the system being designed for flexibility really puts me at ease. I think I'm going to call that number this week to get my specific numbers and then likely move forward with applying. Thank you for the professional insight!

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I'm glad you found this community to ask such an important question! As someone who recently navigated this same decision, I want to emphasize what others have said - you have complete flexibility with when to apply for Social Security retirement benefits. There are absolutely no enrollment periods like Medicare has. I was in a very similar position last year - planned to wait until 67 but health concerns made me reconsider. What really helped me was doing a comprehensive analysis that went beyond just the monthly payment amounts. I looked at my total expected lifetime benefits under different scenarios, factoring in my health situation and family history. A few additional considerations that might help your decision: - Social Security benefits are inflation-adjusted, so starting earlier means you'll get those annual cost-of-living adjustments on a smaller base amount - If you're married, think about survivor benefits - your claiming decision affects what your spouse would receive - Consider your other retirement income sources - sometimes having Social Security start earlier allows you to delay withdrawing from retirement accounts, potentially saving on taxes The online application really is straightforward, and you can save your progress if you need to gather additional documents. Most people I know who applied received their first payment within 4-6 weeks. Given your health concerns, the certainty of receiving benefits now versus the uncertainty of what the future holds might make starting at 65 the right choice for your peace of mind.

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As someone new to understanding Social Security, I really appreciate all the detailed responses here! It sounds like the key takeaway is that you get the HIGHER of either your own benefit OR the spousal benefit, not both stacked together like your friend suggested. From what I'm reading, in your case you'd get your $1,100 own benefit plus an additional amount to bring you up to the spousal benefit level of $1,375 (50% of your husband's $2,750). So you'd receive $1,375 total, not $1,100 + $1,375. One thing I'm curious about - several people mentioned timing strategies. Since your husband is 63 and you're 61, and assuming your Full Retirement Ages are around 67, you both still have some time to plan this out. Have you considered working with a Social Security specialist to run different scenarios for when each of you should claim? It seems like the timing could make a big difference in your total lifetime benefits. Also, thanks to whoever mentioned that service for getting through to SSA - sounds like that could save a lot of frustration when you're ready to get official answers!

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Great summary @Liam Fitzgerald! You really captured the key points from this whole discussion. I'm also new to all this Social Security stuff and was feeling overwhelmed, but reading through everyone's experiences has been super helpful. The timing aspect seems really important - I hadn't realized that claiming early affects BOTH your own benefit AND any spousal benefit you might get. That's a big deal if you're looking at potentially 20+ years of reduced payments. I'm definitely going to look into finding a Social Security specialist now. It sounds like the small cost upfront could save thousands over the long run by helping optimize when to claim. And yeah, that service for getting through to SSA sounds like a lifesaver - I've heard horror stories about people spending hours on hold! Thanks to everyone who shared their real experiences. It's so much more helpful than trying to figure this out from the SSA website alone.

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This is such a common source of confusion! I went through the same thing when my spouse and I were planning our retirement strategy a couple years ago. Just to add another perspective to what everyone has shared - one thing that really helped us was creating a simple spreadsheet to compare different claiming scenarios. We looked at things like: - What if I claim at 62 vs waiting until FRA vs waiting until 70? - What if my spouse claims early vs delays? - How does the timing of each person's claim affect the other's benefits? The break-even analysis was eye-opening. Yes, claiming early gives you money sooner, but if you live into your 80s (which many people do these days), the reduced benefits really add up over time. Also, don't forget about survivor benefits! If something happens to the higher-earning spouse, the surviving spouse gets the higher of the two benefits. So your husband delaying his claim until 70 could mean a much higher survivor benefit for you down the road. I know it feels overwhelming, but once you understand the basics (which it sounds like you're getting from all these great responses), you can make informed decisions about what works best for your specific situation.

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@Diego Mendoza That s'a really smart approach with the spreadsheet! I never thought about breaking it down that way, but it makes total sense to look at all the different scenarios side by side. The survivor benefit point is huge too - I hadn t'even considered that angle yet. If my husband delays until 70 and gets those 8% annual increases, that could make a big difference for me if I end up widowed later on. That s'definitely something we need to factor into our decision. Do you happen to remember what tools or resources you used to calculate the different scenarios? I m'pretty good with spreadsheets but want to make sure I m'using the right formulas and assumptions for things like the reduction factors for early claiming. Thanks for adding that perspective - it s'helpful to think beyond just the immediate when "do we get the most money question" to the longer-term implications!

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I'm dealing with this exact same issue! Turned 70 in November 2024 and have been waiting for my DRCs since February. My FRA benefit is around $2,400, so looks like I'm in that middle processing batch. I've been checking my MySocialSecurity account obsessively thinking something went wrong with my application. This thread has been such a lifesaver - I had no idea this was happening to so many people! The lack of communication from SSA about these delays is really frustrating. Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences, especially the folks with insider knowledge about the processing batches. It's such a relief to know I just need to wait it out and that the retroactive payment will eventually come through. Definitely going to stop calling and stressing about this now!

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I'm so relieved to find this discussion! I turned 70 in December and have been in the exact same situation - no DRCs in my February payment and no updates in my MySocialSecurity account. My FRA benefit is about $2,600, so it sounds like I'm also in that higher processing batch that won't be handled until April. I've been losing sleep over this thinking I somehow messed up my application or that my paperwork got lost in the mail. The complete lack of communication from SSA about these delays is really unacceptable - they should at least send a notice explaining what's happening instead of leaving us all in the dark. Thank you so much to everyone who shared their experiences and especially to those with insider knowledge about the processing system. It's such a huge relief to know this is a widespread issue and not something specific to my case. I'm going to stop checking my account daily and just wait it out until April!

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I'm going through the exact same thing! Turned 70 in August 2024 and delayed claiming for about 3.5 years like you. My FRA benefit amount is around $2,950, so based on what others have shared here, I'm definitely in that final processing batch. I've been checking my MySocialSecurity account religiously and calling SSA multiple times, but now I understand it's just a waiting game until April. What really gets me is that SSA could easily send a simple notice saying "Due to system upgrades, DRC processing is delayed - expect your increase by April with full retroactive payment." Instead, they leave thousands of us wondering if we made some mistake or if our applications got lost. The stress this causes people who are already dealing with the complexity of retirement planning is completely unnecessary. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences and especially those with insider knowledge about the processing batches. This thread has been more helpful than hours of phone calls to SSA! I'm going to bookmark this discussion and stop obsessing over my account until mid-April.

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm absolutely blown away by this thread! I just created my account after realizing I'm in the exact same boat as so many others here. I started receiving my Social Security retirement benefits back in September 2024 and provided all my ex-husband's information during the online application, fully expecting SSA to handle everything automatically. We were married for 18 years before divorcing in 2016, and I've remained single since then. Like virtually everyone else in this thread, I had absolutely no clue that divorced spouse benefits required a completely separate application! The pattern of experiences shared here is truly shocking - it's clear this is a massive systematic failure in how SSA communicates these requirements, not individual user error. What's particularly frustrating is that I actually called SSA twice over the past few months with other questions, and neither representative mentioned anything about divorced spouse benefits, even though my ex-spouse information was right there in my file from the original application! Based on all the invaluable advice shared here, I'm calling SSA first thing tomorrow morning to schedule my divorced spouse benefits appointment. I'll definitely ask specifically about the 6-month retroactive payments and start gathering my certified marriage and divorce documents immediately. This thread has been more educational than anything I've found through official SSA channels. Thank you to everyone for creating such an incredible resource for navigating this confusing system - you're all helping so many people who would otherwise be lost in the bureaucracy!

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Welcome to the community, Diez! Your experience is unfortunately becoming the norm in this thread - it's really striking how many of us have had virtually identical situations with the SSA system. The fact that you were married for 18 years and started benefits in September puts you in a great position for divorced spouse benefits, and you should definitely be eligible for those retroactive payments. What's particularly troubling about your story is that you actually called SSA twice and they never mentioned divorced spouse benefits even though your ex-spouse information was in your file! That really highlights how this isn't just a website communication issue but a broader training problem with their representatives. When you call tomorrow, make sure to use the exact phrases "divorced spouse benefits" and "6-month retroactive payments" since it seems like their reps don't proactively offer this information. This thread has really become an incredible documentation of a systematic SSA problem - hopefully someone in their organization will eventually see how widespread this issue is and make some changes to help future applicants!

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm amazed at how many people have experienced this exact same issue! I just joined after reading through this incredibly helpful thread and realizing I might be in a similar situation. I started receiving my Social Security benefits in December 2024 and was married for 13 years before my divorce in 2014. I've remained single since then. Reading everyone's experiences makes me wonder if I should also be looking into divorced spouse benefits - I had no idea this was even a separate application process! The fact that so many people provided ex-spouse information during their initial online application, expecting SSA to handle everything automatically, really shows there's a major communication gap in their system. I'm definitely going to call SSA this week to ask about divorced spouse benefits and will make sure to specifically mention the 6-month retroactive payments based on everyone's advice here. This thread has been more informative than anything I've found on the official SSA website - thank you all for sharing your experiences and helping newcomers like me navigate this confusing system!

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Welcome to the community, Kaiya! Your situation definitely sounds like you should look into divorced spouse benefits - being married for 13 years puts you well over the 10-year requirement, and starting benefits in December means you're still within a good timeframe for retroactive payments. It's really eye-opening to see how many of us have discovered this issue through community discussions rather than clear guidance from SSA. When you call this week, definitely be specific about asking for "divorced spouse benefits" and mention the "6-month retroactive payments" explicitly - based on everyone's experiences here, the representatives won't necessarily volunteer this information even if you qualify. Also, start gathering your certified marriage and divorce documents now so you're prepared for your appointment once you get it scheduled. This thread has really become an incredible resource for exposing this widespread SSA communication problem - hopefully your call goes smoothly and you can get the benefits you're entitled to!

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