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I'm just starting to receive my SS benefits next month and this entire thread has been absolutely invaluable! As a complete newcomer, I had no idea that early deposits were even a thing, so I was just planning to expect my payment exactly on the scheduled date. Now I understand I might get a pleasant surprise, but more importantly, I've learned why I should never rely on early timing for bill payments. The stories about holiday disruptions and people getting hit with late fees really drove the point home. I'm definitely going to budget everything around the official payment date and treat any early arrivals as a bonus. Question for the group - for those who've been through your first holiday season with SS, are there specific months I should be extra cautious about? Like November/December around Thanksgiving and Christmas? Want to make sure I have extra cushion during those times!

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Yes, definitely be extra careful during the holiday periods! I'm about 18 months into receiving my SS benefits and have been through several holiday cycles now. November through January can be particularly unpredictable - I've seen delays around Thanksgiving week, and the Christmas/New Year period is definitely when things get wonky. Also watch out for three-day weekends like Memorial Day, Labor Day, and Presidents Day. My strategy is to keep an extra $500-1000 buffer in my checking account starting mid-November through early January, just to be safe. The peace of mind is worth it! You're asking all the right questions before you even start receiving payments - that's going to serve you well.

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Welcome to the SS community! You're asking exactly the right questions before even starting. From my experience over the past year, the holiday periods from Thanksgiving through New Year's are definitely when you want extra caution. I've seen payments delayed during Thanksgiving week, and the Christmas/New Year stretch can be really unpredictable with all the bank closures. Three-day weekends like Memorial Day and Labor Day can also cause hiccups. I usually start keeping an extra buffer in my account starting around mid-November and keep it through early January. The key is having enough cushion that you don't stress about whether your payment will be early, on time, or slightly delayed during those periods. You're being so smart to think about this ahead of time - most of us learned these lessons the hard way!

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I'm about 4 months into receiving my SS disability benefits and can definitely confirm the early deposit pattern! Mine consistently arrives 2-3 days ahead of schedule through my local credit union. When I first started getting them, I was tempted to schedule some bills earlier to take advantage of the timing, but after reading similar discussions in other SS groups, I decided to stick with the conservative approach from the beginning. So glad I did! Just last month during Presidents Day weekend, my payment came exactly on the official date instead of early - if I had been counting on the early timing, it could have caused problems with my rent payment. Now I budget everything around the guaranteed date and just treat early deposits as a nice surprise. Sometimes I'll use the early money for groceries or gas, but never anything critical. This thread is such a great resource for newcomers - the advice about being extra cautious during holiday periods is spot on!

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This thread has been incredibly eye-opening! I'm a self-employed contractor and had no idea this was such a widespread issue. Reading everyone's experiences has me worried about my own records now. Quick question for those who've been through this - is there any way to proactively check if your self-employment income is being properly recorded before it becomes a problem? Should I be reviewing my SSA earnings record annually? Also, @Isabel Vega mentioned getting IRS tax account transcripts as key documentation. For those who used this successfully, did you need transcripts for just the missing years or for additional years as well for comparison? I'm definitely bookmarking this thread and all the specific forms/procedures mentioned. Sounds like having Form SSA-7008, requesting a protective filing date, and getting a case number are the critical first steps. Thank you all for sharing such detailed information - this could save people months of frustration!

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Great questions! Yes, you should definitely check your SSA earnings record annually - I wish I had known to do this earlier. You can create a my Social Security account online and review it every year around tax time. For the IRS transcripts, I'd recommend getting them for the missing years plus at least one year before and after if possible. Having comparison years helps show the pattern of your self-employment income and makes it harder for them to question the legitimacy of the missing years. The proactive approach is so smart. After going through this nightmare, I'm planning to check my earnings record every single year going forward. It's much easier to catch these issues early than to deal with multiple missing years like we're all facing now. One thing I learned from this thread is that self-employed people seem particularly vulnerable to these record-keeping errors. Having our own documentation ready (tax returns, payment records, IRS transcripts) is basically essential since we can't rely on W-2s like traditional employees. @Isabel Vega and others who ve'successfully resolved this - any other preventive steps you d'recommend for self-employed folks?

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This entire thread has been a goldmine of information! I'm actually dealing with something similar - my self-employment income from 2020-2022 isn't showing up properly in my SSA records either. Reading through everyone's experiences, it's clear that the key is being extremely organized and persistent. The advice about Form SSA-7008, getting IRS transcripts, requesting a protective filing date, and using both local office and national number approaches simultaneously seems like the winning strategy. What really struck me is how @Isabel Vega mentioned that most local offices don't actually process these corrections anymore - they just forward documents to processing centers. That explains why so many documents get "lost"! For anyone else dealing with this, I'd also suggest keeping a detailed log of every interaction - dates, times, names of representatives, what was discussed, and what documents were provided. It sounds like documentation is absolutely critical when dealing with SSA. One question for those who've successfully resolved this: How long did the entire process take from start to finish once you had all the right documentation and followed the proper procedures?

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I'm new here but going through the exact same issue! My self-employment income from 2019-2022 is completely missing from my SSA records despite filing everything properly and paying SE taxes. Reading through this thread has been both helpful and frustrating - helpful because now I know what steps to take, but frustrating because it's clear this is a systemic problem affecting so many self-employed people. I had no idea about Form SSA-7008 or the protective filing date concept until reading @Isabel Vega s'detailed explanations. I ve'been trying to resolve this through my local office for 4 months with zero progress, and now I understand why - they probably don t'even handle these corrections anymore! Planning to follow the dual approach strategy and get my IRS transcripts first before submitting anything. It s'ridiculous that we have to become experts in SSA procedures just to get credit for taxes we ve'already paid, but at least this thread gives us a roadmap. @Danielle Mays - great question about timeline! I m also'curious how long the process takes once everything is properly submitted with the right forms and documentation.

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As someone new to the Social Security system myself, this discussion has been incredibly helpful! I'm still a few years away from retirement, but I'm already learning so much from everyone's shared experiences. From what I'm gathering, the AERO process should automatically handle your recalculation around October 2025, but the smart approach seems to be staying informed rather than just hoping everything works perfectly. Your situation sounds really promising - $58,500 from 2024 replacing what appears to be a much lower earning year should definitely result in an increase, even if it ends up being more modest than initially expected due to how the benefit formula works. I'm taking notes on all the practical advice here: checking your online Social Security account to verify your 2024 earnings get posted correctly, keeping good records of your income documentation, and being prepared to follow up if needed. What gives me the most confidence is seeing both the success stories where everything worked automatically and the experiences where people had to be more proactive - it shows that while the system generally works, there are concrete steps we can take to advocate for ourselves. Thanks for starting such a valuable discussion - the real-world insights from this community are so much more helpful than just reading official government resources!

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As someone also new to Social Security, I really appreciate how you've summarized all the key takeaways from this thread! What strikes me most is how this discussion has evolved into such a comprehensive guide for newcomers like us. The balance between trusting the automatic AERO process while staying proactive seems like exactly the right approach. Your point about seeing both success stories and situations requiring follow-up is so valuable - it gives us realistic expectations rather than just hoping everything will work seamlessly. I'm definitely adopting the same strategy of documenting everything, monitoring my online account, and setting those calendar reminders. It's encouraging to see how supportive this community is in sharing practical knowledge that you just can't find in official resources. This whole thread has transformed what initially seemed like a confusing process into something much more manageable with clear action steps. Thanks for contributing to such an informative discussion!

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As someone who's also new to Social Security, this thread has been absolutely invaluable! I'm still several years from retirement myself, but reading through everyone's real-world experiences has given me so much confidence about what to expect when my time comes. The clear consensus that the AERO process should work automatically for your situation, combined with all the practical advice about staying proactive, creates such a helpful roadmap. Your $58,500 from 2024 replacing what sounds like a significantly lower earning year should definitely result in an increase - it's encouraging to see how the system is designed to recognize and reward continued work even after retirement begins. I'm taking detailed notes on all the actionable steps shared here: monitoring the my Social Security account to verify 2024 earnings are posted correctly, keeping thorough documentation, setting those October 2025 calendar reminders, and being prepared to contact SSA if anything seems off. What I find most reassuring is how this community has shared both the smooth automatic experiences and the times when people needed to advocate for themselves - it gives newcomers like us both realistic expectations and concrete tools for success. Thanks for starting such an informative discussion that's become a masterclass in navigating Social Security benefit recalculations!

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Social Security survivor benefits confusion - mother's benefits, student benefits and income limits

Hi everyone, I'm struggling to understand my complicated survivor benefits situation with my kids. My husband passed away several years ago, and we have two children - my oldest just turned 18 last October and is receiving survivor benefits directly until high school graduation this May. My younger child is 13. Currently, the kids split the full 150% family maximum survivor benefit. Social Security told me to apply for "mother's benefits" (I think that's the proper term?) this spring since my 18-year-old graduates soon. They mentioned the same benefit amount would then be split three ways instead of two. Should I apply for this now or wait until closer to graduation? I have so many other questions: 1. Does my 18-year-old need to claim these survivor benefits on her 2024 and 2025 tax returns? 2. About the mother's/caretaker benefits - I work full-time and know earnings over $28,750 reduce benefits $1 for every $2 earned. But is there also a monthly earnings limit? Some people mentioned about $2,470/month but is that just for retirement benefits? 3. My income drops for 2 months during summer but is steady the rest of the year. How do I report these fluctuations to SSA? 4. My employer adds their health insurance premium contributions ($7,500/year) to my W-2 as taxable income. Will SSA count this as "earnings" when calculating benefit reductions even though it's not wages for work I performed? Sorry for the long post! My last attempt calling SSA was a disaster - I had to hang up after waiting 75+ minutes because I couldn't stay on hold while working.

I'm so sorry for your loss and can really empathize with how overwhelming this whole process is. I lost my spouse a few years ago and navigating SSA with two kids was one of the most stressful parts of an already difficult time. A couple of things that helped me that others haven't mentioned: **Local SSA office appointments**: You can actually schedule appointments online at ssa.gov rather than just showing up. This saved me from waiting in long lines and gave me dedicated time with someone who could look at my specific case. **Appeal rights**: If SSA makes any decisions you disagree with (like benefit amounts or eligibility dates), you have 60 days to request reconsideration. I learned this the hard way when they initially calculated my family maximum incorrectly. **State benefits**: Don't forget to check if your state has any additional survivor benefits programs. Some states have small programs that can help with things like college expenses that federal SSA doesn't cover. **Tax planning**: Since you're entering a phase where you'll have benefit income subject to earnings limits, consider meeting with a tax professional who understands SSA benefits. The interplay between benefit reductions and tax implications can be tricky, especially in years where your income fluctuates. You're asking all the right questions and being proactive. That's exactly what your kids need right now. The bureaucracy is frustrating, but you've got this - and this community is here to help when you need it.

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Thank you so much for these additional insights! The online appointment scheduling tip is incredibly helpful - I had no idea that was even an option. I've been dreading the thought of taking time off work just to sit in a waiting room for hours, so being able to schedule a dedicated appointment makes this much more manageable. The point about appeal rights is really important too. It's good to know I have options if something doesn't seem right with their calculations. Given how complex my situation is with the family maximum and earnings limits, I want to make sure everything is calculated correctly. I hadn't thought about checking for state benefits either - that's definitely worth looking into. Every little bit helps, especially with my oldest heading to college soon. Your suggestion about meeting with a tax professional is probably wise. I've been trying to figure out the tax and benefit interactions on my own, but you're right that the interplay can get really complicated, especially with my fluctuating income. It's so reassuring to connect with people who have actually walked this path. When I'm dealing with SSA's phone system or trying to interpret their letters, it sometimes feels like I'm the only person who has ever had to figure this out. Knowing that others have successfully navigated these challenges gives me hope that I can too. Thank you for the encouragement and practical advice!

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Jacob Lee

I'm so sorry for your loss, and I want to commend you for being such a diligent advocate for your children during this difficult time. Navigating survivor benefits is complicated even under the best circumstances. A few additional points that might help: **Retroactive benefits**: When you apply for mother's benefits, SSA can pay up to 6 months of retroactive benefits if you're eligible. So if there's any delay in processing, you won't necessarily lose those months completely. **Direct deposit setup**: Make sure to set up direct deposit for your mother's benefits when you apply. Paper checks can get delayed, and with your work schedule, having reliable electronic payments will be one less thing to worry about. **Annual review process**: Once you're receiving benefits, SSA will send you an annual earnings report form to complete. Keep all your pay stubs and tax documents organized throughout the year - it makes this process much smoother. **College transition planning**: While survivor benefits don't continue for college, there are other financial aid opportunities specifically for children who have lost a parent. Organizations like the Children of Fallen Patriots Foundation and local community foundations sometimes have scholarships available. The system is definitely not intuitive, but you're asking all the right questions and getting good advice from this community. Your persistence in working through these details will pay off for your family in the long run. Don't hesitate to come back here if you run into any issues during the application process!

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This is such comprehensive and practical advice! The retroactive benefits information is especially reassuring - I was worried that any delays in processing might mean losing out on payments completely, so knowing there's a 6-month window helps ease that concern. The direct deposit tip is great too. With everything else I'm juggling, the last thing I need is to worry about whether a check got lost in the mail or delayed. I'll definitely make sure to set that up when I apply. Thank you for mentioning the college scholarship resources! I hadn't heard of the Children of Fallen Patriots Foundation before, and with my oldest graduating soon, exploring these options could really help with college costs. It's good to know there are organizations out there specifically designed to help families in our situation. Your point about keeping organized records for the annual earnings report is well-taken. I've been somewhat haphazard with my paperwork organization, but knowing that I'll need to complete annual reports gives me motivation to get more systematic about it. I really appreciate how supportive this community has been. When I posted this question, I was feeling pretty overwhelmed and frustrated with the whole system. Reading everyone's responses has not only given me practical guidance but also reminded me that I'm not alone in dealing with these challenges. Thank you for the encouragement to come back if I need help - I have a feeling I might need it as I work through the application process!

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Mei Wong

Thanks everyone for all the helpful responses! What a relief to know I have complete flexibility between FRA and 70. I think I'll probably wait at least a year past my FRA since I'm still working, but it's great to know I can claim anytime if circumstances change. Really appreciate all the insights about delayed retirement credits being calculated monthly too - that wasn't clear from what I was reading online.

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Just want to add another perspective as someone who claimed at 67 and 8 months. I originally planned to wait until 70, but my employer offered an early retirement package that was too good to pass up. The flexibility to claim Social Security at exactly the right time for my situation was invaluable. One tip I'd share - when you do decide to claim, apply about 3 months before you want your first payment. There can be processing delays, and you want to make sure everything goes smoothly. Also keep detailed records of when you apply because that date determines your exact benefit calculation with the delayed retirement credits. The monthly calculation really does make a difference. In my case, those extra 20 months of delayed credits added about $280 to my monthly benefit compared to claiming at FRA. Over a lifetime, that's a substantial amount!

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