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I'm new to this community and wanted to first offer my deepest condolences on your father's passing. I just joined recently after my own family started dealing with Social Security issues, and I've been reading through this entire thread with amazement at how helpful and knowledgeable everyone has been. While I don't have direct experience with DAC benefits myself, I wanted to add one small suggestion based on what I learned when helping my disabled cousin with his SSA paperwork. Consider asking if they can provide you with a written summary or confirmation of what was discussed during your appointment. My cousin's case worker was willing to give us a brief written note outlining the next steps and timeline, which was incredibly helpful for our records and gave us something concrete to refer back to. Also, if your brother has any cognitive disabilities that might make it difficult for him to understand or participate in the appointment, don't hesitate to mention this to the SSA staff. They should be able to make accommodations or adjustments to help ensure he's comfortable and the process goes smoothly. The collective wisdom shared in this thread - from specific form numbers to practical tips about timing and preparation - has been absolutely invaluable. It's clear your brother has a strong case for increased benefits, and with all the excellent advice everyone has provided, you're well-prepared to advocate for him effectively. Best of luck, and please keep us updated on how everything goes!
Welcome to the community, Kelsey! Thank you for the condolences and for adding such thoughtful suggestions to this thread. As another newcomer who has been following along and learning from everyone's experiences, I really appreciate your advice about asking for a written summary of the appointment. That's such a smart idea - having something concrete to refer back to would definitely be helpful, especially when dealing with such complex benefit calculations and timelines. Your point about mentioning any cognitive disabilities is really important too. Since my brother does have significant cognitive challenges from his disability, I'll make sure to bring this up at the beginning of our appointment so they can make any necessary accommodations. It's good to know that SSA should be willing to adjust their approach to make sure he's comfortable throughout the process. I'm continually amazed by how this community has provided such comprehensive guidance for what initially seemed like an overwhelming situation. Between all the practical tips, specific forms to request, timing advice, and real experiences people have shared, I feel so much more prepared to advocate effectively for my brother. Everyone here has been incredibly generous with their knowledge and support. Thank you for taking the time to contribute your insights, and I hope your family's Social Security matters get resolved smoothly as well. I'll definitely update everyone once we've been through the process - this thread has become such a valuable resource that I want to pay it forward!
I'm new to this community and wanted to first express my heartfelt condolences on your father's passing. I recently joined after my own family started navigating Social Security issues, and I've been incredibly impressed by the depth of knowledge and support shared in this thread. While I don't have personal experience with DAC benefits yet, I wanted to add something I learned when helping my neighbor with her SSA case last year. She found it really helpful to bring a small digital recorder (with permission from the SSA staff) to record important parts of the conversation, especially when they were explaining benefit calculations or timelines. This way she could review everything later without worrying about missing crucial details during what can be a stressful appointment. Also, if you're concerned about getting through on the SSA phone lines to schedule an appointment, many local offices allow you to schedule appointments online through your my Social Security account at ssa.gov. This can sometimes be faster than trying to call during peak hours. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been so educational - from the specific forms to request to the importance of asking for survivor benefit specialists. Your brother clearly has a strong case for increased benefits, and with all the excellent preparation advice shared here, you're in great shape to advocate effectively for him. Wishing you both the best of luck with this process!
Welcome to the community, Jamal! Thank you for the condolences and for adding such helpful suggestions. As someone who is also new to this community and learning from everyone's experiences, your idea about bringing a digital recorder (with permission) is really smart - there's so much detailed information discussed in these appointments that it would be easy to forget important details later, especially when you're feeling overwhelmed or stressed. Your tip about scheduling appointments online through the my Social Security account is also really valuable! I hadn't thought about that option and was dreading the prospect of spending hours on hold trying to get through by phone. That could save so much time and frustration. Like everyone else who has contributed to this thread, I'm amazed by how comprehensive and practical all the advice has been. From specific forms and documentation to timing suggestions and communication strategies, this community has created an incredible resource. When I first posted about my brother's situation, I felt pretty lost about how to navigate the Social Security system, but now I feel genuinely prepared and confident about advocating for him. Thank you for taking the time to share your insights, and I hope your family's Social Security issues are resolved smoothly as well. This thread has become such a valuable guide that I'm definitely planning to update everyone with our results to help others who might be in similar situations!
I'm glad this discussion has been so helpful! One thing I'd add is that you might want to consider the "earnings test" if you do decide to do any part-time work between now and your FRA. If you earn more than $23,400 in 2024 (the limit changes each year), Social Security will reduce your benefits by $1 for every $2 you earn above that limit - but only if you're actually claiming benefits. Since you're planning to wait until FRA to claim, this won't affect you. Just something to keep in mind if your plans change. Also, don't forget that Social Security benefits may be taxable depending on your total income, so factor that into your retirement planning too!
That's a really important point about the earnings test that I didn't know about! So if I understand correctly, since I'm planning to wait until my FRA to start claiming, I could actually do some part-time work without worrying about any benefit reductions? That gives me more flexibility - maybe I could find something less stressful just to stay busy and earn a little extra. And good reminder about the tax implications too. Social Security planning is way more complex than I initially thought!
One more thing to consider - if you're married, make sure to coordinate your Social Security claiming strategy with your spouse! Even if your own benefit won't be significantly impacted by stopping work at 64, your spouse might be eligible for spousal benefits based on your work record. The timing of when each of you claims can affect the total household Social Security income. There are some complex "file and suspend" type strategies that were mostly eliminated, but there are still optimization opportunities for married couples. It might be worth consulting with a fee-only financial planner who specializes in Social Security to run the numbers for your specific situation, especially since you mentioned your financial advisor wasn't clear on these details.
This is such great advice about coordinating with a spouse! I'm single so I don't have to worry about that complexity, but it's really helpful for others reading this thread. The mention of consulting with a fee-only financial planner is spot on too - it sounds like Social Security optimization can get pretty intricate, especially for couples. I'm starting to realize that my original financial advisor probably should have been more knowledgeable about these details given how important Social Security is for retirement planning. Thanks for adding this perspective!
This thread has been absolutely invaluable! As someone who's 63 and starting to seriously plan for claiming at 66, I've learned so much from everyone's real-world experiences. The distinction between gross benefit amounts and actual take-home pay is something I definitely needed to understand better. A few key takeaways I'm noting for my own planning: - Budget for Medicare Part B deductions ($174.70/month currently, but expect annual increases) - Consider voluntary tax withholding (10-12% seems to be the sweet spot for most people here) - Submit W-4V form well in advance since processing can take 1-2 months - Keep copies of everything submitted to SSA - Factor in the earnings limit if planning to work part-time after claiming before FRA One question I haven't seen addressed - for those who've been receiving benefits for a while, how accurate have the SSA's online benefit calculators been compared to your actual payments? I'm trying to decide how much cushion to build into my retirement budget for unexpected variations. Also, has anyone dealt with changing their withholding percentage multiple times, or is it better to try to get it right the first time? The ability to adjust seems helpful, but I don't want to create unnecessary complications if the processing is slow each time. Thanks again to everyone for sharing such detailed and practical insights - this is exactly the kind of information that's hard to find elsewhere!
Great summary of key takeaways! As a newcomer to this community, I'm also planning for retirement and found this entire discussion incredibly helpful. Regarding the accuracy of SSA's benefit calculators - from what I've observed in this thread, they seem to be accurate for the gross benefit amount, but the challenge is that they don't clearly show what your actual deposit will be after deductions. That's why everyone emphasizes creating your own spreadsheet to subtract Medicare premiums, tax withholding, and any other applicable deductions. For the withholding percentage question, based on the experiences shared here, it seems like most people find success starting with 10-12% and then adjusting once if needed rather than making frequent changes. The 1-2 month processing time mentioned by several members suggests it's worth trying to get close to the right amount initially rather than making multiple adjustments. One thing I'm taking away from this discussion is the importance of planning for the first few months of benefits when withholding might not be fully set up yet - setting aside some money from early payments for taxes seems like a smart precaution. Thanks to everyone for creating such an informative discussion! This kind of peer-to-peer knowledge sharing is invaluable for those of us navigating these decisions.
As someone who just started receiving benefits 6 months ago, I can share some practical insights about the accuracy of SSA's calculators and the withholding adjustment process. The benefit calculators were spot-on for my gross benefit amount - within a few dollars of what I actually receive. The key is understanding that it's the GROSS amount, so you need to manually subtract all deductions to get your real take-home pay. Regarding changing withholding percentages - I've done it once so far. Started with 7% withholding but realized after my first quarterly tax review that I needed more taken out. Submitted a new W-4V form in March to bump it to 12%, and it took about 6 weeks to take effect (so May payment was the first with the new rate). The process was straightforward, but the delay meant I had to set aside extra from those interim payments. One tip: I keep a simple spreadsheet tracking my monthly SS payment, Medicare deduction, tax withholding, and net deposit. This helps me spot any changes immediately and makes tax planning much easier. Also want to echo what others said about Medicare Part B increases - mine went up $5/month this year with very little notice, so definitely budget some cushion for those annual adjustments. The combination of real experiences shared in this thread plus the official SSA resources should give you a solid foundation for planning. Good luck with your retirement!
Chad, I'm so sorry for your loss. Losing a spouse while trying to navigate these complex systems is overwhelming beyond words. I wanted to mention one resource that might help bridge the gap while you're preparing for your son's Adult Disabled Child application - many states have "Benefits Planning, Assistance and Outreach" (BPAO) programs that provide free counseling specifically for Social Security disability benefits. These counselors can help you understand exactly what documentation you'll need and can even help coordinate with SSA during the application process. You can find your local BPAO through the Social Security Administration's website or by calling their main number. Also, since your son will likely qualify for Medicare after his 24-month waiting period on DAC benefits, it might be worth researching Medicare Supplement plans now so you're prepared for that transition. The combination of Medicare and potentially Medicaid could provide excellent coverage for his ongoing needs. You're being incredibly proactive in planning for his future - that preparation will serve you both well when application time comes.
Thank you for mentioning the BPAO programs - I had never heard of those before but free counseling specifically for Social Security disability benefits sounds exactly like what I need right now. Having someone who can help coordinate with SSA during the actual application process would be invaluable. I'll definitely look into finding our local program through the SSA website. The Medicare planning tip is also really helpful - I've been so focused on getting through the DAC application that I hadn't thought ahead to the healthcare transitions that will come after approval. It's reassuring to know that the combination of Medicare and Medicaid could provide comprehensive coverage for his needs. This entire thread has opened my eyes to so many resources and programs I didn't know existed. I'm feeling much more confident about navigating this process thanks to everyone's guidance and support.
Chad, I'm so deeply sorry for the loss of your husband. What you're going through is unimaginable, and I'm amazed by your strength in planning ahead for your family's future during such a difficult time. Reading through all the excellent advice here, I wanted to add one more thing that might help - consider creating a "disability portfolio" for your son that includes not just medical records, but also photos and videos showing his daily challenges and limitations. Sometimes visual documentation can be powerful in helping SSA reviewers understand the real-world impact of his disabilities. For instance, if he needs help with tasks that most 17-year-olds can do independently, documenting that now could be valuable later. Also, since you mentioned he's had documented disabilities since age 3, you might want to contact his early intervention providers and ask them to write a summary letter about his long-term prognosis and functional limitations. These professionals often have insights about developmental trajectories that can be compelling evidence for SSA. You're doing everything right by planning ahead - your son is so fortunate to have such a dedicated advocate looking out for his future.
This is such a thoughtful suggestion about creating a "disability portfolio" with photos and videos! I never would have thought about visual documentation, but you're absolutely right that showing his daily challenges could be much more powerful than just written descriptions. It's one thing to read that he "needs assistance with daily living activities" and another thing entirely to see what that actually looks like in practice. The idea about contacting early intervention providers for summary letters is brilliant too - those professionals have known him for so many years and really understand his developmental trajectory in a way that individual medical appointments might not capture. I'm going to start putting together this kind of comprehensive documentation package now while I have time to be thorough about it. Thank you for thinking of such creative ways to present his case effectively - every advantage we can give him in this process matters so much.
Yuki Tanaka
My neighbor said the tax thing depends on what state you live in too. Some states don't tax SS at all. I'm in Illinois and they don't touch my SS.
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Andre Laurent
•That's correct about state taxation. As of 2025, these states do NOT tax Social Security benefits: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming While these states DO tax Social Security for some residents (often based on income thresholds): Colorado, Connecticut, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia This is separate from federal taxation, which applies everywhere.
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Ellie Kim
One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you're thinking about working part-time at your cousin's landscaping business, make sure you understand whether you'll be classified as an employee or independent contractor. This affects how taxes are handled and what forms you'll need to file. If you're an employee, your cousin will withhold taxes and provide a W-2. If you're an independent contractor, you'll need to handle quarterly estimated tax payments yourself and receive a 1099. The self-employment tax rate is about 15.3% on top of regular income tax, so it's important to plan for this if you're going the contractor route. Also, since landscaping is seasonal work in many areas, you might want to estimate your annual earnings to see if you'll cross those Social Security taxation thresholds mentioned earlier. Better to plan ahead than be surprised at tax time!
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TillyCombatwarrior
•This is such an important point that I hadn't considered! I just assumed I'd be an employee, but you're right - landscaping work could easily be contractor work. That self-employment tax rate of 15.3% is a lot higher than I expected. I should definitely clarify this with my cousin before starting. Do you know if there are any rules about when someone has to be classified as an employee vs contractor? I don't want either of us to get in trouble with the IRS over this.
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