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Great advice from everyone here! I went through something similar when I was 64. One thing I'd add - when you call SSA to report your expected earnings, ask them to put you on "voluntary suspension" if your projected overage is significant. This way instead of them withholding sporadically throughout the year (which can mess with your monthly budget), you can choose to have them suspend benefits for specific months when you know your income will be highest. Then restart them when your business slows down. Also, keep detailed records of ALL your business expenses because they DO matter for the net income calculation. Things like equipment purchases, office supplies, travel costs, etc. can really add up and reduce your net self-employment income for SSA purposes. The recalculation at FRA is real - I saw my monthly benefit increase by about $47/month once I hit my full retirement age to account for the 4 months they had completely withheld benefits when I was 64. Not a huge amount but definitely helped!

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This is exactly the kind of detailed advice I was looking for! The voluntary suspension option sounds really smart - I hadn't thought about being proactive like that. My business income is pretty seasonal (most of it comes in Q3 and Q4), so being able to suspend benefits during those high-earning months and restart them when things slow down would definitely help with budgeting. Quick question - when you say you kept detailed records of business expenses, did you have to submit those to SSA or do they just use what's reported on your tax return? I want to make sure I'm tracking everything correctly. And that $47/month increase might not sound like much, but over time that really adds up! Thanks for sharing your real-world experience with this.

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I'm glad this thread has been so helpful! As someone who went through this exact situation at 63, I wanted to add a few more practical tips: 1. **Timing matters for self-employment income** - SSA counts the income when you actually receive it, not when you earn it. So if you invoice in December but get paid in January, that counts toward the next year's earnings limit. 2. **Quarterly estimated taxes can help you track** - If you're paying quarterly estimates for your business income, those calculations can give you a good running total of your net self-employment income throughout the year. 3. **The SSA-7011 form** - If you do end up with significant earnings over the limit, SSA may send you this form to report your annual earnings. It's much easier to complete if you've been tracking your net income monthly. 4. **Don't forget about the "grace year"** - In your first year of retirement (which was last year for you), there's a monthly earnings test instead of the annual test. But since you're in your second year now, you're subject to the annual limit. The peace of mind knowing this is temporary and not permanent is huge. I was losing sleep over it until I got clarity from SSA directly!

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This is incredibly helpful! I had no idea about the timing aspect - that could actually work in my favor since most of my big client payments come in late in the year. If I can shift some invoicing to early January, that might help me stay under the 2025 limit. The quarterly tax tracking tip is brilliant too. I'm already doing estimated taxes for my business so using those calculations to monitor my SSA earnings limit progress throughout the year makes perfect sense. One question about the grace year - even though I started collecting at 62 last year, does that monthly test still apply to any part of this year or am I fully on the annual test now? I want to make sure I understand which rules apply to my situation. Thanks for mentioning the SSA-7011 form too - I'll keep an eye out for that and make sure I'm ready with good records if they send it. This whole thread has been a lifesaver for understanding how this all actually works!

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This thread has been absolutely invaluable! I'm currently in the early stages of helping my spouse with their SSDI application, and seeing all the detailed advice and real experiences shared here is giving me so much confidence about how to approach this process. A couple of things I wanted to add based on what I've learned from other disability communities: 1. **Keep copies of everything** - not just medical records, but also copies of all forms you submit to SSA, any correspondence you receive from them, and notes from phone calls. I've heard too many stories of paperwork getting lost in the system. 2. **Consider requesting your own medical records before SSA does** - some people have found that when they request their own records first, they can spot any errors or missing information and get them corrected before SSA sees them. Plus, you'll know exactly what information SSA will be reviewing. 3. **Don't underestimate the importance of mental health documentation** - even if physical conditions are the primary disability, documenting the mental health impact (depression, anxiety from chronic pain, cognitive issues) can strengthen the case significantly. The collaborative spirit in this thread and everyone's willingness to share both successes and setbacks is exactly what people need when navigating this overwhelming system. Thank you all for creating such a supportive resource!

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These are excellent additional points! The advice about keeping copies of everything really resonates - I've already started a dedicated folder for all SSDI-related documents after reading through this thread. The idea of requesting medical records ourselves first is brilliant - it would give us a chance to review everything and catch any potential issues before SSA sees them. Your point about mental health documentation is so important and often overlooked. Even though her primary conditions are physical, she's definitely dealing with depression and anxiety as a result of her chronic illness and inability to work. I hadn't fully considered how documenting those secondary impacts could strengthen her overall case. This thread really has become an incredible resource! Everyone's willingness to share detailed experiences and practical tips is making what seemed like an impossible process feel much more manageable. It's amazing how much collective wisdom there is here from people who have actually been through this journey.

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This thread has been such a goldmine of information! I'm currently at the very beginning of considering an SSDI application for my chronic conditions, and reading through everyone's detailed experiences has been both educational and reassuring. A few things that really stood out to me from this discussion: 1. **The importance of organization from day one** - I'm definitely going to start that comprehensive medical provider list now, before I even file my application. The 5-year lookback period is something I hadn't fully considered. 2. **Documentation of functional limitations is crucial** - It sounds like SSA doesn't just want to know what conditions you have, but specifically how they prevent you from working. I need to start keeping better track of my daily limitations and how my symptoms affect my ability to perform work tasks. 3. **The medical records request is actually a positive sign** - I had no idea that SSA actively requesting additional medical information typically indicates they're seriously considering the case rather than just going through the motions. For anyone else just starting to consider this process, it seems like the key themes are: be proactive, stay organized, document everything, and don't be afraid to communicate with SSA when you need clarification or extensions. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences - both the challenges and successes. This kind of peer support and practical guidance is invaluable for those of us facing this daunting process!

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Fighting Social Security overpayment after SSA office errors - do I have any recourse?

I'm at my wit's end dealing with an SSA overpayment issue that wasn't even my fault! Back in March, a representative at my local office in Henderson made several mistakes during my initial interview. They set up my payments incorrectly (among other errors) which was eventually caught during a review. When I was notified, I immediately went to the office to fix it. The Henderson office told me I needed to repay ALL the money I'd received. I specifically asked if I could just suspend my benefits until everything was sorted out, but they claimed that wasn't an option. The rep insisted I had to sign some form (can't remember the number now) for them to fix anything. When I asked if I'd get my correct payment amount back eventually, they just said "you should." Over the next few months, I made at least 5 trips to the Henderson office only to be told "it's under review" each time. I finally discovered they'd transferred my case to the Springfield office without telling me! Now I'm in an even worse situation. Since I hadn't received any payments since November, I was really struggling financially. The SSA gave me 3 months of benefits as an advance, but now they're trying to claw back almost the exact amount they originally owed me before catching their mistake! Do I have any grounds to fight this clawback? And is there any way to report that the Henderson office needs serious retraining? If I have any SSA issues in the future, I'll drive the extra 45 minutes to Springfield because the Henderson people clearly don't know what they're doing.

I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now - SSA made errors during my disability review and now they're saying I owe back thousands of dollars that I never should have received in the first place. It's so frustrating when their mistakes become our financial burden! I've been following this thread closely and wanted to add a few things that have helped me: 1. **Document EVERYTHING** - I started keeping a detailed log of every phone call, office visit, and interaction. Include names, dates, times, and exactly what was said. This has been invaluable when different reps give conflicting information. 2. **Ask for supervisor notes** - When you meet with supervisors, ask them to add notes to your case file about what was discussed and any commitments made. This creates an official record that can't be ignored later. 3. **Consider filing a complaint with your state's disability advocacy organization** - They often have more pull with SSA than individual complaints and can sometimes resolve issues faster than the formal waiver process. The system is definitely broken, but don't give up. You clearly have a strong case since this was entirely their error and you tried to fix it immediately. Keep fighting - you shouldn't have to pay for their incompetence!

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Your advice about documenting everything is spot on! I wish I had started keeping detailed records from the beginning instead of just getting frustrated. I'm definitely going to start that log now and try to recreate what I can remember from my previous interactions. The suggestion about asking supervisors to add notes to the case file is brilliant - I never would have thought to request that. It's both comforting and infuriating to know that so many of us are dealing with the same issues. At least we can help each other navigate this mess! Thanks for sharing what's working for you - it gives me hope that persistence will eventually pay off.

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I'm so sorry you're going through this nightmare - it's absolutely infuriating when SSA's own mistakes become your financial burden! Reading through all the excellent advice here, I wanted to add one more resource that might help. Contact your local Legal Aid Society - many have SSA specialists who can help with overpayment waivers at no cost. They're often more effective than going it alone because they know exactly how to phrase things in "SSA language" and have established relationships with the offices. Also, if you haven't already, consider filing a complaint with the SSA Office of Inspector General (OIG) about the Henderson office's handling of your case. While it won't directly fix your overpayment issue, it creates an official record of their errors and might prevent others from going through what you're experiencing. The combination of the waiver request (SSA-632), personal conference with a Springfield supervisor, and having an advocate in your corner should give you the best chance of getting this resolved properly. Don't let them wear you down - you're absolutely in the right here and deserve to have their mistakes corrected without financial penalty to you.

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This is such valuable information - thank you for mentioning Legal Aid! I hadn't thought about getting professional help with the language and phrasing for my waiver request. That could make a huge difference since I've been struggling with how to present everything effectively. I'll definitely look into my local Legal Aid Society and see if they have SSA specialists available. Filing a complaint with the OIG about Henderson is also a great suggestion - even if it doesn't directly help my case, it might prevent others from dealing with the same incompetence. It's amazing how much helpful advice this community has provided. I feel like I actually have a solid plan now instead of just feeling overwhelmed and frustrated. Thank you for taking the time to share these resources!

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Welcome to the community! I went through this exact same situation when I started my benefits earlier this year. That $348.90 check is definitely your partial payment for September - completely legitimate! Since you were approved partway through September, SSA calculated your daily benefit rate and paid you only for the days you were eligible that month. The reason it came as a paper check (despite your direct deposit setup) and doesn't appear in your online account is unfortunately just how their system handles these initial partial payments. It's frustrating that SSA doesn't include even a basic explanation with these checks, but based on all the experiences shared here, this is totally normal. Your full monthly payments will start arriving via direct deposit as scheduled. Go ahead and cash that check - just keep a record of it for tax purposes since it won't show up in your online account history!

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Thank you so much for the welcome and explanation, Mei-Ling! As someone brand new to Social Security, this whole thread has been incredibly helpful. Your explanation about the daily benefit rate calculation makes perfect sense - I just wish SSA would include that kind of basic information with these mystery checks! It's reassuring to know that so many people have had this exact same experience. I was honestly a bit nervous about depositing what I thought might be an error, but now I feel completely confident it's mine. I'll definitely keep good records for tax purposes as you suggested. This community has been amazing for filling in all the communication gaps that SSA leaves. Really appreciate you taking the time to help a newcomer understand the system!

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As someone who just started receiving Social Security benefits a few months ago, I completely understand your confusion! I had the exact same experience - got a mysterious paper check for $329.15 about two weeks before my first regular direct deposit payment. Like you, it didn't show up anywhere in my MySocialSecurity account and I was convinced there had been some kind of error. After calling SSA (and waiting on hold for over 2 hours!), they confirmed it was my partial payment for my first eligible month. Here's what they explained: when you become eligible for benefits partway through a month, they calculate a daily benefit rate and pay you only for the days you were actually eligible in that first month. So your $348.90 is likely for about 8-10 days of September benefits. The frustrating part is that these initial partial payments often come as paper checks even when you've signed up for direct deposit, and they frequently don't sync with the online account system - it's apparently a known technical limitation that SSA just hasn't fixed. Your check is absolutely legitimate - go ahead and cash it! Just make sure to keep good records of this payment for tax purposes since it won't appear in your online account history. All your subsequent payments should come through direct deposit normally and show up in your account as expected. Welcome to the Social Security system - it has its quirks, but this community is great for navigating them!

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience and taking the time to explain everything so clearly, Liam! Your check amount of $329.15 is right in line with what everyone else has received, which really confirms this is just standard procedure. I can't believe you had to wait over 2 hours on hold just to get confirmation about your own legitimate payment - that's exactly the kind of frustration that could be avoided if SSA just included a simple explanation with these checks! Your breakdown about the daily benefit rate calculation for 8-10 days makes perfect sense given my approval timing. It's honestly ridiculous that this is such a common experience yet SSA hasn't bothered to fix their communication or technical systems to prevent all this confusion. I really appreciate the warm welcome to the Social Security system and the advice about keeping records for taxes. This community has been absolutely invaluable for understanding what SSA should have explained from day one. I'm definitely going to cash that check tomorrow with full confidence now!

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As someone who's been successfully working part-time while on SSDI for about 18 months now, I wanted to share a few lessons learned that might help: 1) **Start small and track everything** - I began with just 10-12 hours per week earning around $600/month, well below any thresholds. This gave me confidence in the system before gradually increasing. 2) **Use SSA's online reporting** - The my Social Security portal lets you report wages online, which creates an automatic paper trail. I screenshot every submission for my records. 3) **Don't forget about taxes** - Working while on SSDI can affect your tax situation. If your combined income (SSDI + work earnings) exceeds certain thresholds, part of your SSDI becomes taxable. Factor this into your planning. 4) **Consider seasonal work patterns** - Some months I earn more, some less, which helps me stay under annual limits while maximizing income during busy periods. The mental health benefits you mentioned are real! Having structure, social interaction, and feeling productive again has been incredibly positive for my overall well-being. The key is just being methodical about the financial side so you can focus on the therapeutic benefits. Your plan to meet with WIPA first is perfect. They helped me understand nuances I never would have figured out on my own.

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@GalacticGuardian Great questions! For reporting, I typically report monthly rather than per paycheck since my hours are pretty consistent. I report by the 10th of the following month (SSA's deadline) and yes, I keep both screenshots of the online submissions AND copies of all pay stubs. Better to have too much documentation than not enough! For seasonal variations - there's no restriction on month-to-month fluctuation as long as you stay under the relevant thresholds. So earning $400 one month and $900 the next is totally fine. The key limits are the monthly SGA amount ($1,550 for SSDI in 2025) and the TWP threshold ($1,110). Annual earnings only matter for tax purposes, not benefit eligibility. For taxes, I started doing them myself with TurboTax since my situation is fairly straightforward, but I'm considering a tax professional next year as my income has grown. The main thing to watch is that if your "combined income" (adjusted gross income + nontaxable interest + half of SSDI) exceeds $25,000 as a single filer, then up to 85% of your SSDI becomes taxable. It sounds scarier than it is in practice. One tip: I set aside about 15% of my work earnings in a separate savings account for taxes and potential benefit issues. Haven't needed it yet, but the peace of mind is worth it!

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@Kai Santiago Your 18-month success story is really encouraging! I m'particularly interested in how you handled the transition from not working to those first 10-12 hours. Did you experience any adjustment period with your disability symptoms, or were you able to ease into it pretty smoothly? I m'also curious about the type of work you found that was accommodating to your schedule and disability needs. Were employers generally understanding when you explained your situation, or did you find it better to just focus on finding part-time work without necessarily disclosing the benefits aspect upfront? The screenshot documentation approach is smart - I ve'heard too many horror stories about people having issues because they couldn t'prove they reported something correctly. Creating that digital paper trail seems essential. One last question - have you had any Continuing Disability Reviews CDRs (since) you started working? I m'wondering if having work activity makes them more likely to review your case, or if staying under the trial work period thresholds keeps you off their radar. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience - it s'exactly the kind of practical guidance that makes this feel possible rather than terrifying!

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I've been following this discussion as someone who's been navigating SSDI work rules for the past year, and there's one aspect I don't think has been fully covered yet - the importance of understanding how your specific disability affects your work capacity evaluation. SSA doesn't just look at how much you earn, but also at the type of work you're doing and whether it demonstrates an ability to perform "substantial gainful activity." This is especially important for people with fluctuating conditions or invisible disabilities. For example, if your spinal injury limits you to desk work, taking a job that requires standing or lifting could trigger a review even if you're earning under the SGA limit, because it might contradict your disability claim. Conversely, if you find work that accommodates your limitations (like remote data entry, phone customer service, or other sedentary roles), it's much less likely to raise red flags. I'd strongly recommend discussing not just the earnings limits with your WIPA counselor, but also how different types of work might be perceived in relation to your specific medical conditions. They can help you identify roles that align with your RFC (Residual Functional Capacity) so you're not inadvertently creating documentation that could be used against you in future reviews. The mental health benefits are absolutely real though - having that sense of purpose and productivity has been a game-changer for me too. Just make sure the work you choose supports rather than contradicts your disability narrative.

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This is such a crucial point that I hadn't fully considered! You're absolutely right that the type of work matters just as much as the earnings amount. With my spinal injury, I need to be really careful about choosing work that aligns with my documented limitations. My RFC specifically mentions restrictions on lifting, prolonged standing, and repetitive bending - so I should definitely focus on sedentary roles like the ones you mentioned. I was initially thinking about retail or food service since those jobs seem readily available, but now I realize those could actually work against me if they require activities my medical records say I can't do. Remote work or desk-based positions would probably be much safer choices, even if they're harder to find. At least then if SSA ever reviews my case, the work activity would be consistent with my stated limitations rather than contradicting them. I'll definitely add this to my list of questions for the WIPA counselor - not just what I can earn, but what types of work are safest given my specific RFC. Thanks for bringing up this angle - it's exactly the kind of strategic thinking I need to be doing to protect my benefits while still getting the mental health benefits of working. This community has been incredibly helpful in thinking through all these nuances that aren't obvious from just reading the official SSA guidelines!

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