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I did owner financing for my house in 2022 and the tax part wasn't that bad. Just make sure you have a proper loan agreement drawn up by a real estate attorney. Mine cost about $800 but worth every penny since it covered all the legal requirements and proper disclosures. For taxes, my accountant had me report it as an installment sale on Form 6252. The down payment and principal payments aren't taxable as long as they fall under your Section 121 exclusion. The interest gets reported as income on Schedule B each year.
This is such valuable information everyone! As someone who's been thinking about owner financing but was intimidated by the tax complexity, this thread has been incredibly helpful. One additional consideration I learned from my real estate agent - make sure you're comfortable being a lender for the full term of the loan. Unlike selling traditionally where you get all your money upfront, with owner financing you're tied to that buyer for potentially 15-30 years. If they default, you might have to go through foreclosure proceedings to get your property back. Also, consider the opportunity cost - that money you would have received from a traditional sale could potentially be invested elsewhere. Make sure the interest rate you're charging compensates for both the risk you're taking and any potential investment returns you're giving up. The tax advantages are great, but they shouldn't be the only factor in your decision.
Excellent point about the long-term commitment aspect! I'm just getting started in understanding owner financing, and this really highlights something I hadn't fully considered. The tax benefits sound appealing, but being essentially a mortgage company for decades is a big responsibility. Do you know if there are ways to mitigate some of those risks? Like can you require the buyer to have mortgage insurance, or are there services that help manage the loan payments and handle collections if needed? I'm wondering if there's a middle ground between doing everything yourself and just going the traditional bank route.
I think everyone is overcomplicating this. We just bought a 2024 F-350 diesel for our construction business for $94k. Our accountant recommended we take the full amount as a Section 179 deduction since we're having a very profitable year. She said we can still deduct ALL operational expenses (fuel, maintenance, insurance, etc.) regardless of how we handled the initial purchase price. The only requirement is that we use it 100% for business, which we do. We have separate personal vehicles.
Great discussion here! As someone who's been through this exact situation with multiple heavy truck purchases, I'd add a few practical considerations: 1. **Cash flow timing** - If you're profitable this year but uncertain about next year's income, taking the full Section 179 deduction now might be smart. But if you expect steady or growing profits, spreading it out could be better. 2. **State tax implications** - Don't forget that some states don't follow federal Section 179 rules exactly. Make sure to check how your state handles these deductions. 3. **Equipment financing** - If you're financing the truck, you can still claim Section 179 on the full purchase price even though you're making payments over time. 4. **Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT)** - For some businesses, large Section 179 deductions can trigger AMT issues, though this is less common with the current tax law. The key is matching your deduction strategy to your specific business situation. What works for one construction company might not be optimal for another, even with similar truck purchases. Also, keep excellent records of business use from day one - GPS logs, job site documentation, etc. The IRS loves to scrutinize vehicle deductions, especially on expensive trucks.
This is really helpful context! I hadn't considered the state tax implications at all. Our LLC is in California - do you know if they follow the federal Section 179 rules, or should I be researching this separately? Also, the point about AMT is interesting. We're expecting around $800k in revenue this year - is that the kind of income level where AMT becomes a concern with a large Section 179 deduction?
This thread has been incredibly comprehensive and helpful! I've been running a small home repair business for about a year now, and I'm considering adding pool maintenance services during the summer months. Reading through everyone's experiences really confirms that I can use my existing EIN for both businesses. What strikes me most from all the shared experiences is how critical the organizational foundation is - separate bank accounts, meticulous record keeping, and proper quarterly tax planning seem to be the pillars of success when managing multiple businesses under one EIN. The DBA discussion has been particularly enlightening since "Mike's Home Repairs" and "Mike's Pool Service" would definitely present better to clients than just using my personal name. One thing I'm curious about that relates to several comments here: since both of my businesses involve going to customers' homes but have different liability exposures (general contracting vs. pool chemicals and equipment), has anyone found that insurance companies view these as requiring separate policies, or can they typically be bundled under one comprehensive coverage plan? I want to make sure I'm properly protected for both slip-and-fall risks during home repairs and potential chemical/equipment issues with pool maintenance. Also, I appreciate all the insights about business licenses - it sounds like I'll need to check whether my general contractor license covers pool maintenance or if that requires separate certification in my state. Thanks to everyone who shared such detailed real-world advice - this practical guidance is invaluable!
Great question about insurance coverage for different types of home service businesses! I actually have a similar situation with my landscaping and handyman services, and I found that most insurers prefer separate policies because the liability profiles are quite different. General contracting involves risks like property damage from tools, potential injuries from construction activities, and structural liability, while pool maintenance has unique exposures like chemical storage/handling, equipment malfunction, and specialized safety requirements around water features. My insurance agent explained that while they could technically write one policy, having separate coverage ensures you get appropriate limits and specific protections for each type of work. Pool service insurance often includes specialized coverage for chemical spills, equipment liability, and even coverage if you accidentally damage pool equipment. General contracting coverage focuses more on tools, property damage, and general construction risks. The cost difference wasn't huge compared to trying to get one policy with enough coverage for both risk types. Plus, having distinct coverage makes it cleaner if you ever need to file a claim - there's no question about which business activity is covered. Definitely check with your state about licensing requirements too. In many states, pool maintenance requires specific certification for chemical handling, which is separate from general contractor licenses.
This has been such a valuable discussion! I'm currently running a small event planning business and I'm thinking about adding wedding photography services since I have the skills and equipment. After reading through everyone's experiences, I'm confident I can use my existing EIN for both businesses. The recurring themes about organization really hit home - separate bank accounts, detailed record keeping, and quarterly tax planning seem absolutely essential. I'm particularly grateful for the DBA insights since "Memorable Moments Events" and "Memorable Moments Photography" would definitely create clearer brand identity for clients than just using my personal name. One question that builds on the insurance discussion: since event planning involves coordinating vendors and managing large gatherings, while photography involves equipment and potential copyright issues, these seem like they'd have quite different professional liability needs. Has anyone dealt with getting coverage for businesses that both involve events but have such different service components? I'm wondering if one comprehensive policy could cover vendor coordination, event management, photography equipment, and potential copyright issues, or if I'd need separate policies for each business activity. The licensing discussion has also been really helpful - I'll need to check if my event planning license covers photography services or if I need additional permits for commercial photography in my state. Thanks to everyone for sharing such detailed, practical experiences - this thread is an incredible resource for anyone considering multiple sole proprietorship businesses!
You're asking a really smart question about insurance for event-related businesses with different service components! I actually work in the events industry and have dealt with this exact situation. Event planning and photography definitely have overlapping but distinct liability needs. Event planning typically requires general liability for vendor coordination, professional liability for planning mistakes, and sometimes liquor liability depending on your services. Photography adds equipment coverage, errors & omissions for missed shots or delivery issues, and potentially copyright/media liability. Most commercial insurers who specialize in event services can actually write a comprehensive policy that covers both activities, since they're related and you're likely serving the same client base. The key is finding an agent who understands the events industry - they'll know how to structure coverage that addresses venue liability, vendor coordination, equipment protection, and professional services under one policy. That said, you might want to get quotes both ways (combined vs separate policies) to see what makes more sense cost-wise. Some insurers offer package deals for related event services that can be more affordable than trying to piece together separate coverages. For licensing, most states treat commercial photography and event planning as separate activities requiring different permits, so definitely check your local requirements. Good luck with the expansion - event planning and photography is a natural combination!
Has anyone had experience with an installment sale approach? I'm selling my business and the buyer wants to structure it as an asset purchase but pay over 5 years. How does this affect the tax situation?
Installment sales can be really beneficial for tax purposes! You essentially spread the gain (and therefore the tax liability) over the payment period rather than recognizing it all in the year of sale. You'll need to file Form 6252 with your tax return each year. Be aware that depreciation recapture is generally taxed in the year of sale regardless of when you receive payments. Also, if any assets are allocated to inventory, you can't use installment method for that portion.
Great discussion here! I went through a business sale two years ago and learned some hard lessons about the importance of getting proper valuation and allocation documentation early in the process. One thing I wish I'd known is that the IRS pays close attention to how you allocate purchase price between assets, especially when there's a large goodwill component. They want to see that the allocation reflects actual fair market values, not just what's most tax-advantageous for either party. My advice: get an independent business valuation done before you start negotiations. It costs a few thousand dollars but it gives you solid ground to stand on when the buyer's team starts pushing for allocations that favor them. The appraiser will break down the value of tangible assets, customer lists, non-compete agreements, and goodwill based on accepted valuation methods. Also, don't forget about potential depreciation recapture on equipment and other assets - this gets taxed as ordinary income even in an asset sale, which caught me off guard. Make sure your tax advisor runs the numbers on this before you commit to any structure. The whole process is complex but definitely manageable with the right professional help. Good luck with your sale!
This is really helpful advice about getting an independent valuation done upfront. I'm just starting to think about selling my consulting business and hadn't considered how much the IRS scrutinizes purchase price allocation. When you say the depreciation recapture "caught you off guard" - was it a significant amount? I'm wondering if there are ways to minimize this or if it's just something you have to accept as part of an asset sale structure. Also, did you find that having that independent valuation actually helped speed up negotiations, or did the buyer still want to do their own due diligence on asset values anyway?
Lucas Adams
I'm actually going through this exact same situation right now! Got my withholding verification letter about a week ago and have been absolutely stressed about it. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly reassuring - it sounds like this is way more common than I thought and usually just a system matching error. What really stands out to me from all these stories is how important it is to be super organized with your documentation before you contact the IRS. I've already pulled all my W-2s and double-checked my math (like you did), but I think I'm going to try that taxr.ai service that several people mentioned to get a professional analysis of my documents before I attempt to reach an agent. The combination of people having success with both the phone callback approach and in-person appointments gives me hope that there are multiple paths to getting this resolved. I'm definitely going to keep detailed records of all my contact attempts too, based on the advice here. Thanks for posting about this - sometimes it's so helpful to know you're not the only one dealing with these kinds of IRS issues! Hoping your callback comes through soon and gets everything sorted out quickly.
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Simon White
ā¢I'm so glad I found this thread too! I got my letter just a few days ago and have been losing sleep over it. It's such a relief to see that so many people have gone through this exact same thing and that it's usually just a system error rather than something we actually did wrong. The taxr.ai suggestion keeps coming up and it sounds really helpful for getting organized before contacting the IRS. I'm also impressed by how many people had success with the Claimyr service for actually getting through to an agent - that phone system is such a nightmare to navigate on your own. One thing I'm taking away from all these stories is that having your documentation super organized and ready to go seems to make a huge difference in how quickly things get resolved. It sounds like the IRS agents can fix these issues pretty quickly once they can actually see what's happening. Good luck with your situation! Hopefully we'll all have this sorted out soon and can stop stressing about it.
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Andre Lefebvre
I'm dealing with this exact same issue right now and this thread has been such a huge help! I got my withholding verification letter about 10 days ago and have been completely panicked thinking I somehow messed up my taxes badly. What's really reassuring from reading everyone's experiences is that this seems to be almost always a system matching error rather than an actual mistake on our part. I've triple-checked my W-2s against my 1040 just like you did, and the numbers match perfectly. Based on all the advice here, I'm planning to try a multi-pronged approach: first using taxr.ai to get a professional analysis of my documents (so many people mentioned this worked well), then trying Claimyr to actually get through to an IRS agent since their phone system is such a nightmare. If those don't work, I'll schedule an in-person appointment at my local taxpayer assistance center. The tip about keeping detailed records of all contact attempts is really smart too - I've started a log with dates, times, and reference numbers from my failed call attempts. Thanks for posting about this! It's so helpful to know we're not alone in dealing with these IRS matching issues, and that there are proven ways to get them resolved.
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Gabrielle Dubois
ā¢I just went through this exact same situation about 3 months ago and you're absolutely right that it's almost always a system matching error! What helped me the most was getting everything super organized before making contact with the IRS. I ended up using the in-person appointment route at my local Taxpayer Assistance Center, and the agent was able to see immediately that my employer had submitted a corrected W-2 to the IRS after my original filing, but their system hadn't properly updated to reflect it. The whole thing was resolved in about 20 minutes once I could sit down with someone face-to-face. Your multi-pronged approach sounds really smart - having backup options is definitely the way to go with IRS issues. The documentation log you're keeping is also crucial. Even though mine got resolved quickly, I was glad I had all my failed call attempts documented just in case I needed to reference them later. Hang in there - based on everything I've seen and experienced, these withholding verification issues almost always get cleared up once you can actually speak with an agent who can look at your account. The stress is totally understandable, but you'll get through this!
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