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I'm a current NYU MSL student who can directly address your question about confidence in handling complex tax issues! This was actually one of my biggest concerns going into the program - I had solid technical knowledge from my CPA background but felt overwhelmed when clients asked for strategic planning advice. The program has been transformational in building that confidence. The case study approach forces you to think like a tax advisor rather than just a preparer. In my Corporate Tax Planning course, we recently worked through a multi-tiered reorganization scenario where we had to consider not just the tax implications, but the business objectives, timing issues, and alternative structures. By the end, I realized I was naturally thinking through the "why" and "how" questions that used to intimidate me. What really builds confidence is the collaborative environment - you're working through these complex scenarios with classmates who have different professional backgrounds, so you get exposed to various approaches to problem-solving. The professors also encourage us to defend our recommendations, which develops the ability to articulate strategic thinking that's crucial in advisory roles. The networking has been invaluable too, but not just for job opportunities. Having conversations with practicing tax partners at NYU events has helped me understand how they approach client problems, which has made me much more comfortable with ambiguity and strategic decision-making. I'd definitely recommend the program if you're looking to make that transition from compliance to advisory work!
This is exactly what I was hoping to hear! Your experience with the corporate tax planning course sounds like it perfectly addresses the gap I've been feeling between technical knowledge and strategic application. The multi-tiered reorganization scenario you described - having to consider business objectives, timing, and alternative structures alongside tax implications - that's exactly the kind of holistic thinking I need to develop. I really appreciate your point about the collaborative environment with classmates from different backgrounds. That exposure to various problem-solving approaches sounds incredibly valuable for expanding how you think about client issues. And the fact that professors encourage defending your recommendations is great - that kind of practice articulating strategic thinking would definitely build confidence for real client interactions. The insight about networking helping you understand how practicing partners approach problems is particularly interesting. I hadn't thought about that aspect beyond just job opportunities, but learning their thought processes and comfort with ambiguity would be so helpful for developing that advisory mindset. Your transformation from feeling overwhelmed by strategic planning questions to naturally thinking through the "why" and "how" gives me a lot of hope about what this program could do for my own career development. Thank you for sharing such a detailed and encouraging perspective!
I'm a tax manager at a mid-size firm who's been considering the NYU MSL program for about a year now. Reading through all these experiences has been incredibly helpful - especially seeing so many people who've successfully made the transition from compliance to advisory roles. One thing I'd love to add to this discussion is the perspective on program timing. I'm currently debating whether to apply for fall admission or wait another year to have more experience under my belt. From what I've gathered in this thread, it sounds like the quality of experience matters more than the exact number of years, but I'm curious if anyone has thoughts on the optimal career stage for maximum benefit from the program. I'm particularly drawn to what several people have mentioned about the international tax focus. My firm has been expanding our cross-border practice, and I'd love to position myself as the go-to person for those engagements. The faculty connections to OECD and BEPS implementation that were mentioned earlier sound like they'd provide incredibly current and relevant expertise. The confidence-building aspect that recent graduates have discussed really resonates with me too. I've reached a point in my career where I need to start thinking strategically rather than just technically, and it sounds like NYU's case study approach would be perfect for developing that mindset. Thanks to everyone who's shared their experiences - this has been more valuable than any admissions session!
I'm going through almost the exact same situation right now! Got married in September 2023 and just realized I never updated my W-4 with payroll. Been losing sleep over this for the past week thinking I'd somehow messed up my taxes. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly reassuring. The fact that withholding status and filing status are separate things makes so much sense when explained that way. I was picturing the IRS sending me angry letters or something! I'm definitely going to try that IRS withholding calculator that was mentioned and get my paperwork updated with HR this week. Has anyone had issues with HR being slow to process W-4 changes during this time of year? Our benefits department is notoriously backed up during open enrollment and I'm worried about timing if I need to make adjustments before year-end. Also really appreciate the reminder about checking other benefits impacts - completely forgot that marriage affects FSA elections too. This thread has been a lifesaver!
I'm so glad this thread helped ease your worries! You're definitely not alone in this situation. Regarding HR processing times during open enrollment - yes, they can definitely be slower this time of year. I'd suggest submitting your W-4 update ASAP, but also consider calling to confirm they received it and ask about their current processing timeline. If you're worried about timing for year-end adjustments, you could also look into making an estimated tax payment for Q4 if the withholding calculator shows you'll be significantly short. But honestly, based on what others have shared here, if you've been withholding at the single rate all year, you're probably in better shape than you think! The FSA thing caught me off guard too when I got married - apparently you can make changes during open enrollment even if you missed the initial 30-day window after your wedding. Definitely worth asking HR about while you're updating your W-4.
I work as a tax preparer and see this situation constantly - you're definitely not the first person to forget updating HR after getting married! The good news is that this usually works out in your favor financially. Since you've been withholding at the "single" rate all year, you've likely been overpaying taxes with each paycheck. When you file your 2023 return as married (which you should, since you were married as of December 31st), you'll probably get a nice refund. However, I'd strongly recommend updating your W-4 with HR immediately for 2024. If both you and your spouse work, make sure to check the "Two Jobs" box or fill out the multiple jobs worksheet to avoid underpaying next year. The marriage penalty/bonus really depends on your combined income levels and how similar your individual incomes are. One tip: if you're concerned about owing for 2024, you can also request additional withholding on your new W-4 to make up for any shortfall from the months you've already worked this year. The IRS withholding calculator mentioned by others is spot-on for figuring out exactly what you need to do.
This is such helpful perspective from a professional! I'm curious though - when you mention the "marriage penalty/bonus" depending on income levels, is there a rough rule of thumb for when married couples might actually end up paying more than they would filing single? My spouse and I have pretty similar incomes (both around $65k) so I'm wondering if we should even bother running the numbers for married filing separately vs jointly. Also, when you say "additional withholding" on the W-4, is that just putting an extra dollar amount in box 4c, or is there a better way to calculate exactly how much extra to withhold?
I'm in a similar situation with my Serve card and 3/22 DDD! Based on what everyone's sharing here, it sounds like we just need to be patient for a few more days. I've been checking my account constantly too, but it's good to know that Serve doesn't show pending deposits - that explains the radio silence. I'm going to follow the advice about setting up SMS alerts and try to stop obsessively refreshing the app. It's reassuring to hear from people who've been through this process multiple times with Serve. The consensus seems to be that refunds do arrive, just not always on the exact DDD. Fingers crossed we all see our deposits by mid-week!
I'm also waiting on my 3/22 DDD with Serve and this thread has been so helpful! It's my first time filing too and I was starting to panic when nothing showed up over the weekend. Reading everyone's experiences makes me feel so much better - it sounds like Tuesday or Wednesday is when we should realistically expect to see our deposits. I had no idea that Serve takes longer than regular banks or that they don't show pending deposits. That explains why my account looks exactly the same as before! I'm definitely going to stop checking every few minutes and set up those text notifications instead. Thanks to everyone for sharing their timelines - it really helps calm the nerves when you're counting on that money!
I'm dealing with the exact same situation - 3/22 DDD to my Serve card and nothing yet! This is also my first year filing and I was starting to really worry. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly helpful though. It sounds like Serve consistently takes 1-4 business days after the DDD to actually post IRS refunds, which is way longer than I expected. I had no idea they don't show pending deposits either - I've been staring at my account balance thinking something was wrong! The fact that so many people here have gone through this same waiting period with Serve and eventually received their refunds is really reassuring. I'm going to follow the advice about setting up SMS alerts instead of constantly checking the app. Thanks Justin for posting this - it's good to know we're all in the same boat! Hopefully we'll all see our deposits by Wednesday.
I'm so relieved to find this thread! I'm also a first-time filer with a 3/22 DDD to Serve and was getting really anxious when nothing showed up today. It's been such a help reading everyone's experiences - I had no idea that Serve takes so much longer than regular banks for IRS deposits. The fact that they don't show pending deposits explains why my account looks completely unchanged. I was starting to think something went wrong with my filing! Setting up SMS alerts instead of obsessively checking sounds like the way to go. Thank you to everyone who shared their timelines and experiences - knowing that delays of 1-4 business days are totally normal with Serve makes me feel so much better about waiting it out.
Just wait for your regular refund date and skip all this advance nonsense. The IRS is actually pretty fast these days if you file electronically and use direct deposit.
I actually went through this exact situation last month. Yes, you definitely need to open a Credit Karma Money account - there's no way around it anymore since Intuit owns both companies. The good news is the account is completely free with no fees or minimum balance. The advance amount depends on your refund size but it's usually a decent chunk. Just be aware that once you get the advance, you're locked into keeping that account open until your full refund processes, otherwise they can hit you with penalties. Overall it worked fine for me but definitely feels like they're forcing you into their ecosystem.
Geoff Richards
Been doing 1099s for years and here's my simple advice: if you don't withhold state taxes (most people don't for contractors), leave Box 6 blank. For Box 7, use your state tax ID number for the state you're filing in. If your contractor works remotely in another state, you might need to file with their state too, using your ID number for that state if you have one. If you don't have a tax ID in their state, some states want you to use your FEIN instead, while others have specific requirements. The tricky part is knowing WHICH states require separate filings. This changes sometimes, and that's the real value of using a service like TaxGenius - they keep track of the requirements for all 50 states so you don't have to.
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Simon White
ā¢What if I'm filing in a state where I don't have a state tax ID because I don't have nexus there, but my contractor lives in that state? What goes in Box 7 then?
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Geoff Richards
ā¢In that case, many states will accept your Federal Employer Identification Number (FEIN) in Box 7. Some states have specific instructions for out-of-state payers - for example, they might want you to enter "NONE" or leave it blank. This is one of those situations where the requirements vary significantly by state. If you're using a tax filing service, they should be able to guide you on the specific requirements for each state where you're filing. If you're filing directly, you'll want to check the specific state's department of revenue website for their 1099 filing instructions.
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Evelyn Kim
Just wanted to add my experience as someone who handles 1099-NECs for a medium-sized business with contractors across 12 states. The confusion around Box 6 and Box 7 is totally understandable because these boxes are specifically for state reporting, but they appear on the federal form. Here's what I've learned through trial and error: Box 6 is almost always blank unless you have a specific state withholding arrangement (which is rare for independent contractors). Box 7 gets your state identification number, but here's the key - it's YOUR state ID for the state where YOU'RE filing, not the contractor's state. The real complexity comes when you have contractors in multiple states. You might end up filing the same 1099-NEC information with several different states, each time using your identification number for that specific state (if you have one). Some states want your FEIN if you don't have a state-specific ID. One tip that's saved me headaches: keep a spreadsheet tracking which states require separate filings and what ID numbers they want from you. State requirements change periodically, and what worked last year might not work this year. TaxGenius and similar services are definitely worth the extra cost for the peace of mind - they handle all these nuances automatically.
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StarStrider
ā¢This is incredibly helpful! I'm just starting out with my first few contractors and the multi-state aspect has been overwhelming me. Your spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I was trying to keep track of everything in my head which obviously wasn't working. Quick question: when you say "YOUR state ID for the state where YOU'RE filing" - does that mean if I'm based in Texas but have a contractor in California, I would need to get a California state tax ID to properly file there? Or would I use my Texas ID when filing the California state form? I'm trying to avoid registering in states where I don't actually have business nexus if possible.
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