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Sophia Clark

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Something important to add here - make sure the work is AGE APPROPRIATE!!! I got audited because I claimed my 12yo was doing "consulting" for my business. The IRS agent basically laughed at the idea a 12yo could provide consulting services. Stick to tasks that make sense for their age like filing, cleaning, simple computer work, etc.

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Would helping with social media count as age appropriate for a 15 year old? My daughter is WAY better at TikTok and Instagram than I am and could actually help my business a lot with that stuff.

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Sophia Clark

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Social media assistance would absolutely be considered age-appropriate for a 15-year-old in most cases. Teenagers are often very skilled with social platforms, and many businesses legitimately hire teens for this exact purpose. Just make sure you're keeping good records of the work she's doing - screenshots of posts she creates, a log of hours worked, and documentation of how her work helps your business. Pay her a reasonable rate comparable to what you'd pay someone else for the same work. The key is making sure it's a legitimate working arrangement and not just shuffling money around.

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Madison Allen

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Quick tip from someone who's been doing this for years: open a Roth IRA for your kids with their earned income! Since they likely won't owe taxes on the income (if under the standard deduction), they're essentially getting tax-free money going in AND tax-free growth and withdrawal later. It's one of the best financial head starts you can give them.

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Joshua Wood

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Can you really open a Roth IRA for a minor? Don't they have to be 18 to have investment accounts?

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PixelWarrior

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and wanted to share what I learned from my tax preparer. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - if your LLC has been operating as a partnership but you've been filing as a sole proprietorship (Schedule C), the IRS might also flag this as an entity classification issue. Make sure when you file your 1065, you're consistent about your entity election. If you never filed Form 8832 (Entity Classification Election), the IRS defaults multi-member LLCs to partnership status, which is why you need the 1065. Also, don't forget about your state requirements! Most states require separate partnership returns too, and those penalties can add up. Some states are more forgiving than others with penalty abatement, but you'll want to check your specific state's requirements. One more thing - if you have any business bank accounts, make sure the income/expenses on your 1065 match your bank records. The IRS can cross-reference this, and inconsistencies might trigger additional scrutiny. Good luck getting this sorted out!

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Sophia Long

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This is such a great point about state requirements - I completely forgot about those! Quick question though - if I'm filing late for federal, should I wait to file the state partnership return until after I submit the 1065, or can I do both at the same time? I'm in California and I know they can be pretty strict about penalties. Also, you mentioned Form 8832 - since I never filed one and the IRS defaults to partnership status anyway, do I need to worry about filing that now or can I just proceed with the 1065? I don't want to create more complications than I already have!

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AaliyahAli

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You can file both federal and state at the same time - no need to wait! In fact, it's better to get both done ASAP since California's penalties are steep ($18 per partner per month for late filing). California Form 565 is their partnership return. Regarding Form 8832, you don't need to file it now since you're already defaulting to partnership status. Filing it at this point would just create unnecessary paperwork. The IRS automatically treats multi-member LLCs as partnerships for tax purposes unless you elect otherwise, so you're good to proceed directly with the 1065. One California-specific tip: they have their own reasonable cause criteria that's sometimes more restrictive than federal. When you file your late CA return, mention that you're a first-time business filer AND that you're correcting the issue at the same time as your federal filing. California tends to be more forgiving when they see you're addressing both simultaneously rather than just fixing one. Also, make sure your California return matches your federal 1065 exactly - any discrepancies will likely trigger correspondence from the Franchise Tax Board asking for explanations.

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Ava Thompson

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Don't stress too much - this is actually a pretty common mistake for new LLC owners! The good news is that the IRS has specific provisions for situations exactly like yours. Here's what you need to know about penalty relief: **First-Time Penalty Abatement (FTA)** is your best friend here. Since you filed your personal taxes on time and this appears to be your first business filing penalty, you have a strong case for getting the penalties completely waived. The key is being proactive - file your 1065 immediately and include a penalty abatement request with your submission. **Quick reality check on penalties:** Yes, it's $210 per partner per month, but don't let that number paralyze you. Many first-time business owners successfully get these penalties reduced or eliminated entirely through FTA. **Your reasonable cause statement should include:** - This was your first year operating as a partnership - You demonstrated good faith by filing your personal return on time - You're taking immediate corrective action upon discovering the requirement - You had no prior knowledge of the 1065 filing requirement The fact that you already filed your personal taxes actually works in your favor - it shows you're not someone who ignores tax obligations, you just genuinely didn't know about this specific requirement. File that 1065 this week and you'll likely be fine!

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This is really reassuring, thank you! I was definitely spiraling about the penalty amounts. One quick question about the reasonable cause statement - should I write this as a separate letter that I include with my 1065 filing, or is there a specific form I need to use? Also, when you mention being "proactive" with the penalty abatement request, do you mean I should submit it at the same time as the 1065, or should I wait to see if the IRS actually assesses penalties first? I've seen conflicting advice on this and want to make sure I handle it the right way from the start. Really appreciate everyone's help in this thread - as a first-time business owner, this community has been a lifesaver!

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Oliver Brown

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FYI the financial institution already reported this to the IRS. The computer systems will automatically flag your return if the numbers don't match. Don't risk an audit over $187!

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Mary Bates

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What happens if you do get flagged? Does the IRS come after you with the full force of the law for a tiny amount like this?

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GalacticGuru

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Usually for small amounts like this, they'll just send you a letter (called a CP2000) asking you to explain the discrepancy. It's not like they're sending agents to your door, but you'll need to respond and likely pay the tax owed plus some interest and possibly a small penalty. The hassle and stress of dealing with that correspondence is way worse than just reporting the $187 in the first place. The automated matching system catches these things eventually, so it's really not worth the risk.

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Adriana Cohn

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I went through this exact same situation last year with a small 1099-INT for about $150. I was tempted to skip it too, but I'm glad I didn't. The consensus here is absolutely correct - you MUST report all interest income regardless of the amount. There's no minimum threshold for reporting interest income on your tax return. What really convinced me was realizing that the IRS already has a copy of your 1099-INT form. The financial institution is required to send them a copy of everything they send to you. Their computer systems automatically cross-reference what you report against what they have on file. If there's a mismatch, you'll likely get a notice asking about the discrepancy. For $187, you're probably looking at owing maybe $30-50 in additional tax depending on your bracket, but the penalties and interest for not reporting it initially could add up to more than that. Plus, having to deal with IRS correspondence is just not worth the headache. Just report it and move on - it really is straightforward once you know where it goes on your return.

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Mei-Ling Chen

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anyone know if they still doing the amazon gift card bonus this year?

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ya its still there but only if u file early

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Evelyn Rivera

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I'm also waiting for TurboTax to announce their 2025 refund advance! From what I've seen, they usually launch it around this time but with all the IRS delays this season I wonder if they're being more cautious. Might be worth calling their customer service line to see if they have any insider info on when it'll drop.

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Zainab Ismail

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Good idea about calling customer service! I tried that last year and they actually gave me a heads up a few days before it went live on the website. Worth a shot if you're really eager to get started early πŸ“ž

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Mei Liu

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Don't forget about bonus depreciation! For 2025, I believe you can still take 80% bonus depreciation on qualifying property with a recovery period of 20 years or less. This means things like appliances, carpet, furniture, etc. can have 80% of their cost deducted immediately and the remaining 20% depreciated over their normal recovery period.

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That's not quite right for 2025. Bonus depreciation is phasing down - it's 80% for 2025, 60% for 2026, 40% for 2027, 20% for 2028, and then gone after that. So you're correct about 2025 being 80%, but people should be aware it's changing. Also, it only applies to new property with a recovery period of 20 years or less.

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Elin Robinson

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Great question! As someone who's been through this with multiple rental properties, I can tell you that properly handling renovation depreciation is absolutely worth it - the tax savings add up significantly over time. Here's my practical approach for your $45k renovation: First, go through all your receipts and categorize everything. Things like flooring, built-in cabinets, plumbing fixtures, and structural work go on the 27.5-year residential rental schedule. But appliances (refrigerator, dishwasher, etc.), window treatments, and some fixtures can be depreciated over 5-7 years. The key is documentation. Keep detailed records of what was purchased for which room/purpose. For your kitchen and bathroom remodel, separate out any appliances or removable fixtures from the permanent improvements. One tip that saved me money: if you replaced multiple items as part of the renovation, you might be able to take advantage of the remaining bonus depreciation (80% in 2025) on qualifying shorter-life property. This can give you a substantial deduction in year one. Don't try to expense major renovations as repairs - the IRS will flag that. But definitely take the depreciation deductions you're entitled to. Consider using tax software designed for rental properties or consulting a CPA who specializes in real estate - the upfront cost pays for itself in tax savings.

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Zoe Gonzalez

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This is really solid advice, especially the part about documentation! I'm just getting started with rental properties and hadn't even thought about separating appliances from built-in improvements. Quick question though - when you say "tax software designed for rental properties," do you have any specific recommendations? I've been using basic TurboTax but I'm guessing that's not going to cut it for this level of detail with depreciation schedules.

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