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Keith Davidson

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As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to share my recent experience since I was in an almost identical situation just two months ago. I was caring for my disabled brother and desperately needed to know when his refund would arrive for his ongoing medical treatments. Like you, I saw the TC 846 code with a specific date on the transcript and was anxiously researching what it meant. The good news is that the 846 code with a date is indeed your Direct Deposit Date, and in my case, the funds were deposited exactly on the date shown. However, what I learned through this process might help you plan better: My bank (Navy Federal) actually posted the deposit at 2 AM on the exact date shown, but it didn't show as "available" until 6 AM that same morning due to their internal processing. I highly recommend calling your bank 2-3 days before the DDD to ask specifically about their timeline for IRS deposits - some banks make funds available immediately while others have brief processing holds even for government deposits. Also, I found it helpful to screenshot my transcript showing the 846 code as documentation, and I built in a 48-hour buffer when scheduling my brother's care payments just to be safe. The 846 code ended up being completely accurate, but having that small cushion eliminated the stress of wondering "what if." You're asking all the right questions, and the fact that you're planning ahead shows you're being incredibly responsible in managing your mother's care needs.

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience with caring for your disabled brother - it really helps to hear from someone who's been through this exact situation! Your point about Navy Federal posting the deposit at 2 AM but not making it available until 6 AM is exactly the kind of detail that makes a huge difference when you're coordinating care services. I never would have thought to ask my bank about the difference between when deposits "post" versus when they become "available" - that's such valuable information for planning purposes. The screenshot idea is brilliant too - having that documentation gives me peace of mind that I have proof of the expected date if any issues arise. I'm definitely going to implement your 48-hour buffer strategy for my mom's care payments. It's so reassuring to hear that the 846 code was completely accurate in your brother's case, and you're absolutely right that having even a small cushion eliminates so much stress. The responsibility of managing someone else's medical needs while navigating financial uncertainty is incredibly overwhelming, but hearing success stories like yours gives me confidence that I can handle this. Thank you for taking the time to share such practical and compassionate advice!

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NebulaNinja

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm so grateful to have found this thread! I'm in a very similar situation - managing my elderly mother's finances and care needs while trying to understand when her tax refund will arrive. Reading through everyone's experiences has been incredibly educational and reassuring. The consensus that TC 846 with a date is your Direct Deposit Date with 95-98% accuracy gives me much more confidence than I had before. What really stands out to me is how many experienced members emphasize the importance of the "caregiver's triple-check approach" - monitoring for reversal codes, calling the bank ahead of time, and building in that 3-4 day buffer for care payments. I never realized that even when the IRS side works perfectly, banking delays can still create complications. I'm definitely going to call my bank this week to understand their specific processing timeline for IRS deposits and set up account alerts so I'm not constantly checking my balance. The practical advice about screenshotting the transcript for documentation is something I wouldn't have thought of on my own. It's such a relief to find people who understand that when you're coordinating medical appointments, therapy sessions, and care services, you simply can't afford to just "wait and see" - the responsibility adds an entirely different level of urgency to the whole process. Thank you all for sharing both the technical expertise and the real-world caregiving wisdom!

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Omar Farouk

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Welcome to the community! I'm also new here and just wanted to say how much your summary resonates with me. I'm caring for my grandmother and was feeling completely lost about interpreting tax transcripts until I found this thread. The "caregiver's triple-check approach" that keeps getting mentioned really seems like the best strategy for our unique situation where we can't afford surprises. I've already started implementing some of the suggestions - called my bank yesterday and learned they have a 24-hour processing window for large government deposits, which is information I never would have known to ask for. It's so validating to see others acknowledge that managing someone else's medical needs creates an entirely different level of financial planning pressure. The screenshot documentation tip is something I'm definitely doing today. Thank you for highlighting all the key takeaways - having them consolidated like that really helps transform what felt like overwhelming anxiety into a concrete action plan!

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How do individuals without a business entity file 1099-NEC and 1099-INT with the IRS? IRIS requires EIN but I'm just a landlord

This is my first year having to file 1099-NEC and 1099-INT forms and I'm completely lost. The deadlines are coming up quick and I'm starting to panic. I've been renting out my parents' old house since they moved to assisted living last year. It's just one property, nothing fancy. I had a guy do some major plumbing work that cost $1,200 and I paid a local bookkeeper about $800 to help set everything up. Now I need to file these 1099 forms for them. When I went to the IRS website, it says I need to sign up for this IRIS system to e-file the forms. But when I started the application, it asks for an EIN and all this business structure information. I don't have any of that! I'm just a regular person with a rental property, not a corporation or LLC. Here's where the form starts getting confusing: **Business Structure*** Select Association Church or Church Controlled Organization Corporation Credit Union Estate Federal Government Agency Indian Tribal Governments Limited Liability Corporation Limited Liability Partnership Limited Liability Single Member or Disregarded Entity Local Government Agency Non-Profit Organization Partnership Personal Service Corporation Sole Proprietorship State Government Agency Trust **Employer Identification Number (EIN)*** **Firm/Organization Legal Name*** I don't fit into any of these categories as far as I can tell! How do regular individuals who aren't set up as businesses file these 1099 forms with the IRS? The IRIS system seems to be designed only for business entities with EINs. What am I supposed to do?

Don't forget that if you're paying contractors less than $600 in a year, you don't need to file a 1099-NEC for them at all. This applies per person/entity, not total. Saved me a bunch of paperwork last year when I realized most of my small repairs didn't meet the threshold!

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Simon White

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This is good advice but don't forget 1099-INT has a much lower threshold. You need to issue those for just $10 or more of interest paid. Different form, different rules.

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Grace Durand

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For what it's worth, I went through this exact same confusion last year as a new landlord. The IRS terminology is really confusing when you're just an individual with a rental property. Here's what worked for me: 1. Got an EIN online (took 5 minutes, completely free directly from IRS.gov) 2. Selected "Sole Proprietorship" on the IRIS application 3. Used my full legal name as the business name 4. Filed electronically through IRIS The key thing that wasn't obvious to me initially is that having rental income technically makes you a "sole proprietor" in the eyes of the IRS for 1099 purposes, even though it doesn't feel like you're running a business. You're still just filing Schedule E on your personal tax return like always. One tip: Keep good records of your EIN and IRIS login info because you'll need them again next year. And remember the January 31st deadline for getting the 1099-NEC forms to your recipients (the IRS filing deadline is later).

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Landon Flounder

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This is really helpful! I'm in the exact same situation as the original poster and was getting overwhelmed by all the business terminology. Just to clarify - when you say "sole proprietorship," you're still just reporting everything on your regular 1040 with Schedule E, right? You don't need to file any additional business tax forms? I want to make sure I understand this correctly before I apply for the EIN.

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Just wanted to add that you should definitely keep that IRS letter with your tax records! Even though it might look unofficial compared to a regular 1099-INT, it's still an important tax document. I made the mistake of filing mine away too early last year and then panicked when I couldn't find it during tax prep. Also, if the amount seems off to you or you're not sure why you received interest, you can always call the number on the letter to verify. Sometimes there are calculation errors, though they're pretty rare. The IRS is usually pretty good about explaining exactly what the interest payment is for - whether it's from a delayed refund, an amended return, or some other processing delay on their end.

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Lucas Parker

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Great advice about keeping the letter! I'm actually dealing with this exact situation right now and was wondering about storage. Do you know if there's a specific length of time we should keep these IRS interest letters? I'm trying to clean up my tax files and wasn't sure if these follow the same 3-7 year rule as other tax documents. Also, did you end up calling to verify your amount? I'm curious how long that process took since I've heard mixed things about IRS phone wait times for these types of questions.

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Sophia Long

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I went through this exact same situation a couple years ago and it was confusing at first! The key thing to remember is that this IRS interest is completely separate taxable income, even though it came from the government. What helped me was thinking of it this way: the IRS is acting like any other financial institution when they pay you interest. They're required by law to report it to you (and to themselves) just like your bank or credit union does. For your tax software, just add a new 1099-INT entry with "Internal Revenue Service" as the payer name, use that EIN number (38-1798424) they provided, and enter the amount in Box 1 for interest income. Keep it completely separate from your credit union's 1099-INT - don't combine them since they're from different sources. The good news is this won't cause any issues with the IRS since they already know they paid you this money. In fact, they're expecting you to report it! And congrats on getting interest from them - it usually means they took longer than they should have to process something, so it's their way of making it right.

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Finley Garrett

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This is really helpful, thank you! I like how you explained it as the IRS acting like any other financial institution - that makes it click for me. I was overthinking it because it seemed weird to report income back to the same entity that paid it to me, but when you put it that way it makes perfect sense. One quick question - when I enter "Internal Revenue Service" as the payer name in my tax software, should I worry about the exact formatting? Like does it matter if I put "IRS" vs "Internal Revenue Service" vs something else? I just want to make sure I don't accidentally create some kind of mismatch that causes problems later. Also, thanks for the congratulations on getting interest! I didn't even realize that's what it meant - I was actually worried I had done something wrong. It's nice to know it's actually them making up for their delay.

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You've already received some great advice here, but I want to emphasize something important - don't let this contractor's behavior delay your tax filing any longer. Based on what you've described, you have solid documentation with your separate bank account records, and that's exactly what the IRS expects in situations like this. Since you mentioned estimating around $13,000 from January through June, I'd recommend gathering every piece of evidence you can: bank statements (even from your closed account - the bank should provide these), any invoices you sent, email confirmations of payments, or even text messages discussing payment amounts. The more documentation you have, the better. Here's what I'd do in your situation: 1) Send a final certified mail request for the 1099-NEC with a specific deadline, 2) Calculate your exact income from your bank records, 3) File your return using Schedule C to report the self-employment income, and 4) Keep all documentation of your attempts to obtain the proper forms. The IRS understands that not all employers follow the rules, and they have procedures in place for exactly these situations. Your substantial refund with three dependents shouldn't be held hostage by one difficult contractor who's clearly trying to make your life difficult. File accurately based on your records and let the IRS deal with his non-compliance separately.

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Sean Kelly

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This is exactly the approach I needed to hear! I've been overthinking this situation and letting this contractor control my tax filing timeline, which is ridiculous. You're absolutely right that my refund shouldn't be held hostage by someone who's clearly being vindictive. I'm going to contact my old bank tomorrow to get those statements from the closed account, and I'll send that certified letter giving him one final chance to provide the 1099-NEC. After that, I'm filing based on my records regardless of whether he responds. Thank you for breaking this down into clear steps - it makes the whole situation feel much more manageable. I was getting paralyzed by worry about potential IRS issues, but you're right that they deal with situations like this all the time.

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I'm sorry you're dealing with such a frustrating situation with your former contractor. This kind of vindictive behavior is unfortunately more common than it should be, especially when there are payment disputes involved. Based on what you've shared, you actually have a strong foundation to move forward with filing your taxes. The fact that you kept all payments in a separate account shows excellent record-keeping, and that's going to be your best defense here. Even though the account is closed, you can still request those statements from your bank - most banks keep records for several years and will provide them upon request, especially for tax purposes. Don't let this person's refusal to cooperate delay your filing any longer. The IRS has specific procedures for situations exactly like yours where contractors fail to provide required documentation. You're legally obligated to report that income regardless of whether you receive a 1099-NEC, and the IRS expects this - they know not all payers follow the rules. I'd recommend documenting your attempts to obtain the 1099-NEC (certified mail is best for creating a paper trail), calculating your exact earnings from your bank records, and filing using Schedule C to report the self-employment income. With three dependents and a substantial refund waiting, there's no reason to let this difficult contractor control your financial timeline any longer.

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Lola Perez

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I've been dealing with these same aggressive "tax strategist" ads and this discussion has been incredibly valuable! As someone who works in tax compliance, I can confirm what everyone is saying about the "zero tax" claims being major red flags. What these services often do is take legitimate strategies like Section 199A deductions, proper depreciation schedules, and industry-specific credits, then present them as if they're secret knowledge that regular CPAs don't know. The truth is, any competent CPA specializing in your industry should already be implementing these strategies. For manufacturing businesses specifically, the real opportunities are in cost segregation studies, proper equipment depreciation timing (Section 179 vs bonus depreciation), R&D credits for product development, and optimizing entity structure. These aren't hidden loopholes - they're established tax code provisions that require proper application and ongoing planning. Before spending $5,000+ on these heavily marketed services, I'd recommend interviewing 2-3 CPAs who specialize in manufacturing. Ask them specifically about their experience with businesses your size, how they handle equipment purchases for tax optimization, and what manufacturing-specific strategies they typically implement. A qualified professional will discuss these confidently and explain how they apply to your situation - without the high-pressure sales tactics and unrealistic promises. The legitimate tax savings are absolutely there for manufacturing businesses, but they come from ongoing professional relationships with qualified CPAs, not expensive one-time consultations with marketing-heavy services.

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Lucas Turner

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This entire discussion has been absolutely invaluable for someone like me who's been getting hit with these aggressive tax service ads nonstop! As a small business owner with about 8 employees in the construction industry, I was seriously considering one of these "tax strategist" services because I felt like my current CPA wasn't being proactive enough with tax planning. Reading through everyone's real experiences - especially from the tax professionals who've chimed in - has completely changed my perspective. The consistent pattern is crystal clear: these services are repackaging standard tax knowledge at premium prices while making unrealistic "zero tax" promises that should be immediate red flags. What I find most helpful is how this conversation evolved into practical guidance for finding industry-specialized CPAs. Even though construction has different specifics than manufacturing or retail, the core principle is the same - I should be looking for someone who understands the unique aspects of my industry like equipment depreciation, project-based accounting, and seasonal cash flow management. The evaluation questions everyone has shared are brilliant. I'm going to create construction-specific versions to test potential CPAs on things like completed contract vs percentage of completion methods, Section 199A implications for contractors, and how they handle equipment vs small tools depreciation. Instead of falling for these expensive marketing services, I'm going to invest that money in finding a CPA who genuinely specializes in construction businesses. Thanks to everyone for sharing such honest, detailed experiences - this discussion has definitely saved me from making a costly mistake while pointing me toward legitimate professional expertise!

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