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I work as a tax preparer and want to clarify something that might save you time and headaches. While the IRS Free File Fillable Forms is definitely your best option for avoiding the interview-style questionnaires, there's an important limitation to be aware of: you can only use it if your adjusted gross income is below certain thresholds (it changes yearly, but it's typically around $79,000 for 2024 returns). If your income is above that threshold, you'll need to use commercial software or paper filing. However, there's a lesser-known workaround: many of the major tax software companies are required by the IRS to offer a "Free File" version of their software for qualifying taxpayers, but they also have separate "free editions" available to everyone that cover basic tax situations. The key is to look for the software company's "free edition" (not their "Free File" version) which usually allows you to prepare and e-file simple returns without the income restrictions. These versions typically handle Form 1040 with standard deductions and common schedules, though they might not support every form you need. Since you've already done the work of figuring out which forms you need and completing them, you should be able to breeze through any of these options much faster than starting from scratch with the interview process.
@bcfcdd38afb5 This is super helpful information about the income thresholds - I had no idea there were different versions with different eligibility requirements! Just to make sure I understand correctly: if someone's AGI is above the threshold for IRS Free File Fillable Forms, they could still potentially use a commercial software's "free edition" to avoid redoing all their work in an interview format? That sounds like it could be a perfect middle ground for people who've already completed their forms but don't qualify for the completely free IRS option. Do you know if these "free editions" from the major companies still require you to go through their questionnaire process, or can you typically just enter the data directly like with the fillable forms?
@bcfcdd38afb5 Great point about the income thresholds! Most of the major companies' "free editions" do still use some form of interview process, but it's usually much more streamlined than their paid versions. For example, TurboTax Free Edition will still ask you questions, but you can often skip through sections quickly if you already know your situation. However, if you want to completely avoid the interview format, you might want to look into FreeTaxUSA's basic version. In my experience, it allows more direct form entry similar to the IRS fillable forms, but without the income restrictions. You can essentially jump straight to entering your numbers without going through extensive questionnaires. The key is being selective about which "free" option you choose based on whether you want guidance (interview style) or direct control (form-based entry). Since you've already done the calculations and know which forms you need, the form-based approach will definitely be faster.
As someone who's been through this exact frustration, I completely understand your situation! The good news is there are several viable options that don't require you to start over with those annoying interview questionnaires. Your best bet is probably the IRS Free File Fillable Forms (accessible directly through irs.gov). It's essentially the digital version of the paper forms you've already completed - you'll see the same Form 1040 and schedules in web format, and you can just transfer your numbers directly. No interviews, no upsells, just straightforward data entry. If you don't qualify for Free File Fillable Forms due to income thresholds, consider FreeTaxUSA's basic version, which allows more direct form entry without extensive questionnaires. You can jump straight to entering your data rather than answering lifestyle questions. One important tip: always access these services directly through the official websites (irs.gov for Free File, or the company's direct site) to avoid getting redirected to paid services that look similar. The process should be much faster since you've already done the hard work of determining which forms you need and completing the calculations. You're essentially just copying numbers from your PDFs to identical online forms. Just double-check your entries since these systems have minimal error checking compared to the full interview-style software.
@483b78218ddc This is exactly the comprehensive breakdown I was looking for! Thank you for laying out all the options so clearly. I'm definitely going to try the IRS Free File Fillable Forms first since that sounds like the most straightforward approach for my situation. One quick question - when you mention "minimal error checking," should I be concerned about accidentally making mistakes when transferring the numbers? I'm pretty confident in my calculations from the PDFs, but I want to make sure I don't mess something up during the transfer process. Are there any specific things to double-check or common mistakes to watch out for? Also, it's really helpful to know about FreeTaxUSA as a backup option if the income thresholds are an issue. Having multiple paths forward definitely makes this feel less overwhelming than when I was stuck in TurboTax's endless questionnaire loop!
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@Liam O'Sullivan check your account transcript on the IRS website - look for the 8-digit cycle code (usually starts with 2025). If it ends in 01-04 you get daily updates, if it ends in 05 you're on weekly (Fridays). The cycle code tells you which processing center you're at and when they batch your return. Don't panic about no movement - some returns just take longer especially if there are any reviews or verifications needed. Keep checking Friday mornings if you're on weekly cycle!
I'm in exactly the same situation with my single-member S-corp! After reading through all these responses, I'm leaning toward trying TaxBandits first since the cost seems reasonable at around $150-180/year. The quarterly payroll schedule makes sense for cash flow too. One question I haven't seen addressed - how do you all handle the actual payroll tax deposits? Do you just calculate them yourself and pay online through EFTPS, or does TaxBandits help with that part? I'm worried about missing deposit deadlines since I know the penalties can be steep even for small amounts. Also, has anyone tried combining TaxBandits with QuickBooks for the record keeping side? I'm already using QB for my regular business bookkeeping, so I'm wondering if there's a good workflow that connects the two.
Great question about payroll deposits! TaxBandits doesn't handle the actual deposit payments - you'll need to make those yourself through EFTPS (Electronic Federal Tax Payment System). For a single-member S-corp, you're typically looking at monthly or semi-weekly deposits depending on your payroll amounts, but with smaller amounts you might qualify for quarterly deposits. The key is setting up EFTPS in advance and marking all the deposit deadlines on your calendar. I use a simple spreadsheet to track when deposits are due based on my payroll schedule. The IRS has clear guidelines on their website about deposit schedules. As for QuickBooks integration, I've found it works well to run payroll calculations in QB and then use those numbers in TaxBandits for the actual form filing. QB can generate the payroll reports you need, and then you just transfer those amounts into the TaxBandits forms. It's not seamless integration, but it creates a good paper trail for your records.
I've been using TaxBandits for my single-member S-corp photography business for about 18 months now, and I can definitely recommend it for your situation. The learning curve isn't too steep, and the cost savings compared to full-service providers is significant. A few practical tips from my experience: 1. Set up a dedicated business checking account just for payroll if you haven't already. It makes tracking so much easier when you're paying yourself. 2. I run payroll quarterly and it works perfectly fine. Just make sure you're consistent with your schedule and document everything well. 3. The biggest challenge initially was figuring out the right amount for "reasonable compensation." I ended up researching salary ranges for photographers in my area and settled on about 40% of my net business income as W-2 wages, with the rest as distributions. 4. Don't forget about workers' comp insurance requirements - some states require it even for single-member LLCs electing S-corp status. TaxBandits has been reliable for all my federal filings (941s, 940, W-2s), though I did have to figure out my state unemployment filing separately. Overall, for a solo business owner, it strikes the right balance between cost and functionality.
This is really helpful, thank you! The 40% rule for reasonable compensation is interesting - I've been struggling to figure out what's actually "reasonable" for my business. Did you document your research process for determining that percentage? I'm worried about being able to defend my compensation amount if I ever get audited. Also, great point about the workers' comp insurance. I hadn't even thought about that requirement. Do you know if that's something that varies by state, or is it pretty universal for S-corps?
I totally get your confusion - this happened to me my first year filing with multiple jobs too! The key thing to understand is that your refund isn't really "money you're getting back" - it's just the IRS returning the extra taxes you overpaid during the year. When you only entered your first W-2, TurboTax calculated your tax liability based on just that income. But when you added the second W-2, your total income increased, which means your actual tax liability for the year is higher than what either employer withheld individually. Think of it like this: if you owe $3,000 in total taxes but your employers only withheld $2,500 combined (because they each calculated withholding as if their job was your only income), then you'd actually owe $500 rather than getting a refund. For next year, definitely look into adjusting your W-4 withholding using the IRS multiple jobs worksheet or their online estimator. And remember - a smaller refund isn't necessarily bad! It just means you got to keep more of your money in your paychecks throughout the year instead of giving the government an interest-free loan.
This is such a helpful way to think about it! I never really understood that a refund is just getting back money I overpaid. So basically having two jobs meant I underpaid throughout the year instead of overpaying like I thought? That makes so much more sense now. I was thinking of it like I was being penalized for working harder, but really I just need to plan better for next year with my withholdings.
Hey Ethan! I totally understand your confusion - this is one of the most common tax surprises people face when filing for the first time with multiple jobs. Everyone's already given you great explanations about why this happens (the tax bracket issue is spot on), but I wanted to add a practical tip that might help you feel better about the situation. Even though your refund dropped from $1,850 to $740, you're still getting money back! That $740 refund means you actually overpaid your taxes by that amount throughout the year. If you think about it, you essentially got to use that extra $1,100 in your paychecks all year long instead of lending it to the government interest-free. For next year, definitely use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator tool after you start any new job. It'll help you figure out exactly how to fill out your W-4s so you don't get surprised again. You can access it at irs.gov - just search for "Tax Withholding Estimator." This way you can decide whether you want a bigger refund (by having more taxes withheld) or more money in each paycheck (by having less withheld, but potentially owing at tax time). And definitely don't leave off that second W-2 - the IRS will definitely catch it and the penalties aren't worth it!
This is really solid advice! I'm dealing with the same situation as Ethan and was honestly pretty stressed about it. The way you explained that the $1,100 difference was actually money I got to keep in my paychecks throughout the year instead of giving the government an interest-free loan really helped me reframe this whole thing. I was looking at it like I was losing money, but really I just had better cash flow all year. Definitely going to check out that IRS withholding estimator before I start my summer job!
Dmitry Ivanov
I'm so sorry for the loss of both your parents - that's an incredibly difficult situation to navigate while also dealing with complex tax issues. Based on what you've shared, there are several concerning aspects to your tax preparer's advice. The suggestion to "roll over" the refund to next year is fundamentally incorrect for deceased taxpayers. Once someone passes away, the IRS doesn't maintain ongoing tax accounts for them, so there's no mechanism to carry forward a refund to future tax years that won't exist. The $6,800 refund from your parents' joint return legally belongs to your mother's estate since she was the surviving spouse. To properly claim this refund, you'll need to file Form 1310 as the estate executor. Your stepbrother's potential claim would depend entirely on whether he's named as a beneficiary in your mother's will or estate planning documents - his rights through your father's separate trust don't automatically extend to your mother's estate assets. Given the significant amount involved and the family dynamics at play, I'd strongly recommend consulting with an estate attorney or a CPA who specializes in deceased taxpayer returns before proceeding. You want to ensure you're following the proper legal procedures and protecting yourself from any future disputes. The current accountant's advice suggests they may not have sufficient experience with estate tax matters, which could create problems down the line.
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Giovanni Ricci
β’This is really solid advice, and I appreciate how you've broken down the key issues so clearly. The point about the accountant's incorrect "rollover" suggestion is particularly important - it makes me wonder what other aspects of estate tax law they might not fully understand. I'm curious about the timeline for filing Form 1310. Is there a deadline for claiming refunds for deceased taxpayers? Also, given that the stepbrother is already asking questions and uses the same accountant, would it be wise to notify the accountant in writing that they should not be discussing the estate's tax matters with anyone other than the authorized executor? It seems like there could be confidentiality issues there that might complicate things further. The family dynamics aspect you mentioned is so important - even if the stepbrother has no legal claim to the refund, having proper documentation and following the correct procedures will help avoid unnecessary conflicts during an already difficult time.
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Kevin Bell
I'm really sorry for the loss of both your parents so close together - that must be incredibly overwhelming to deal with while also trying to navigate these complex tax and estate issues. Based on what you've described, your tax preparer has given you some fundamentally incorrect advice that could create serious problems. You absolutely cannot "roll over" a tax refund for deceased taxpayers to future years because the IRS doesn't maintain accounts for people who have passed away. This is a major red flag that suggests your accountant may not have adequate experience with deceased taxpayer situations. Here's what you need to know: The $6,800 refund from your parents' joint return legally belongs to your mother's estate since she was the last surviving spouse. To claim it properly, you'll need to file Form 1310 (Statement of Person Claiming Refund Due a Deceased Taxpayer) along with supporting documentation like the death certificate and proof that you're the authorized executor. Regarding your stepbrother's potential claim - this depends entirely on whether he's named as a beneficiary in your mother's will or estate documents. His connection through your father's separate trust doesn't automatically give him rights to assets from your mother's estate. However, given that he's asking questions and uses the same accountant, I'd be concerned about potential confidentiality issues and would recommend notifying the accountant in writing that estate tax matters should only be discussed with you as the executor. I'd strongly suggest getting a consultation with an estate attorney or CPA who specializes in deceased taxpayer returns before proceeding further. The amount is significant enough to warrant proper legal guidance, and you want to protect yourself from family disputes while ensuring you follow the correct IRS procedures.
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Charlie Yang
β’This is incredibly helpful and comprehensive advice - thank you for breaking down all the key issues so clearly! I'm new to this community but dealing with a similar situation with my grandmother's estate, so this thread has been really educational. One question I have about the Form 1310 process - do you know if there are any time limits for filing it? My grandmother passed away last year and we're just now getting around to dealing with her tax refund because the family situation was complicated. Also, the point about notifying the accountant in writing about confidentiality is really smart - I hadn't thought about that aspect but it makes complete sense, especially when there are potential disputes brewing. The advice about getting a second opinion from an estate specialist is spot on. It sounds like the current accountant's "rollover" suggestion shows they're not equipped to handle these complex situations properly, which could create bigger problems down the line.
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