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Has anyone dealt with the situation where the employee already filed their taxes before we discovered the withholding was incorrect? One of our employees exercised NSOs in December, we underwithheld, and she's already filed her return using the incorrect W-2 we provided. Do we need to issue a corrected W-2 or is there another way to handle this?
Yes, you should issue a W-2c (corrected W-2) as soon as possible. The employee will then need to file an amended tax return (Form 1040-X) to correct their reported income and tax liability. Make sure to clearly communicate with the employee about what happened and why they're receiving a corrected form. It's important to explain that the original withholding was insufficient and they may owe additional taxes. Some companies offer to cover the cost of preparing the amended return since it was the company's error.
This is exactly the kind of situation that makes startup HR so challenging! I went through something very similar last year with our NSO exercises. One thing that helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet to track all the moving pieces - employee name, exercise date, number of shares, strike price, FMV at exercise, total spread (taxable income), and then columns for each tax component (federal income, state, Social Security, Medicare, any local taxes). This made it much easier to see where the discrepancy was coming from. In our case, we discovered that Carta was using a flat 22% supplemental wage rate for federal withholding, but some of our higher-earning employees should have been subject to the 37% rate since their total annual income exceeded certain thresholds when combined with the NSO income. Also double-check if your state has any special rules for equity compensation - California, for example, has some quirky requirements that can throw off calculations. The key is getting both platforms to show you their exact calculation methodology line by line. Don't let them just give you totals - demand the breakdown. Once you have that, the discrepancy usually becomes obvious. Good luck! This stuff is unnecessarily complex but definitely solvable with some persistence.
This spreadsheet approach is brilliant! I'm definitely going to set this up. Quick question - when you mention the 37% rate for higher earners, is that something that should be automatically calculated based on their YTD earnings, or do we need to manually flag high earners for different withholding rates? I'm worried we might have other employees in similar situations that we haven't caught yet. Also, regarding the California quirks you mentioned - do you happen to remember what those specific requirements were? We have several employees there and I want to make sure we're not missing anything state-specific.
Great question about the withholding rates! The 37% supplemental rate should kick in automatically when an employee's year-to-date wages plus the NSO exercise income exceeds $1 million. However, many payroll systems don't communicate well with equity platforms about YTD earnings, which is often where these discrepancies come from. I'd recommend running a report of all employees who exercised NSOs and cross-referencing their total annual compensation (salary + bonuses + equity exercise spreads) to see if anyone hit that threshold. You might find other similar issues. For California, the main quirks I remember are: 1) They require withholding on the exercise date even if the employee is in another state temporarily, 2) California has its own supplemental wage rules that don't always align with federal rates, and 3) There are some specific reporting requirements for equity comp on the state level that differ from federal W-2 reporting. I'd definitely recommend checking with a California employment tax specialist if you have multiple CA employees exercising options. The state is pretty aggressive about going after employers who mess up equity compensation withholding.
Check if your child has an ITIN instead of an SSN. This happened to me on March 1st. My child was born outside the US. Had an ITIN from 2021. Got an SSN on January 12th, 2023. IRS systems hadn't updated. Had to use the ITIN for 2023 filing. Will use SSN for 2024 taxes. Deadline is April 15th. Don't wait too long to resolve this.
I went through this nightmare last filing season and it turned out to be a timing issue with the IRS databases. Since you mentioned your child's SSN worked fine for business paperwork and school registrations, but this is happening during tax filing, there's likely a lag between when the Social Security Administration updates their records and when the IRS system syncs up. The fact that you filed successfully in April 2023 but are having issues now in March suggests the IRS might be running validation checks against an outdated database snapshot. Try calling the IRS Practitioner Priority Service line early morning (7 AM EST) - they can manually verify the SSN status in real-time and tell you if there's a systemic issue. Don't keep resubmitting electronically as it may flag your return for additional review.
Thanks everyone for all the detailed help! I was the original poster (Aria) and I'm happy to report I found the direct deposit section thanks to your guidance. You were absolutely right - it's in the "Review & File" section under "Refund Method" and only shows up after you complete all the tax questions. I almost missed it because I was so focused on just following the step-by-step interview process. The tip about checking the summary page to confirm it shows "Direct Deposit to Account ending in XXXX" was clutch - gave me peace of mind before hitting submit. Just filed successfully with direct deposit set up for my $1,870 refund. Fingers crossed it comes through as quickly as some of you mentioned (18 days sounds amazing). This community is awesome - saved me from potentially waiting months for a paper check!
So glad you got it figured out! I went through the same panic last year with a different tax software where I couldn't find the direct deposit section. It's crazy how these platforms hide such an important feature in the navigation instead of making it part of the main flow. Your post actually helped me too since I'm planning to switch to FreeTaxUSA next year from TurboTax to save money. Now I know exactly where to look for the direct deposit setup. Hope your refund comes through quickly!
Just want to echo what everyone else has said about FreeTaxUSA hiding the direct deposit section! I had the same issue two years ago and ended up getting a paper check because I couldn't find where to enter my bank info. It's definitely not intuitive that you have to complete ALL the tax prep steps first before the refund options even appear. One thing I'd add that I don't think anyone mentioned - if you're married filing jointly, make sure the bank account is in at least one spouse's name that matches the return. I learned this the hard way when my refund got rejected because we used my wife's maiden name account but filed under her married name. The IRS is pretty strict about name matching for direct deposits. Also, for anyone worried about timing - FreeTaxUSA processes just as fast as the expensive software. My refunds through FreeTaxUSA have consistently arrived in 2-3 weeks with direct deposit, same as when I used TurboTax. The IRS doesn't care which software you used, they all go through the same e-file system.
Has anyone had experience with how state taxes treat the PPP loan forgiveness for S-Corps? I know federally it's tax-exempt, but I've heard some states are treating it differently and it's causing issues with the state-equivalent of the 1120S.
Yeah, it varies by state. I'm in California and they didn't conform to the federal treatment initially, which made for a really confusing filing. Had to add back the PPP forgiveness as income for state purposes but not federal. Check your specific state tax agency's guidance because it's all over the map.
Just went through this exact situation with my S-Corp last month! The PPP forgiveness definitely goes on Schedule K line 16b as tax-exempt income, and yes, it increases your shareholder basis even though it's not taxable. For Schedule M-2, you'll report it on line 3 as "Other additions" to your AAA (Accumulated Adjustments Account). This is crucial because it affects your ability to take distributions without tax consequences later. One thing that tripped me up initially - make sure your QuickBooks entries are set up correctly. I created a separate income account called "PPP Loan Forgiveness" and marked it as non-taxable income. This way it flows through properly for tax reporting but doesn't mess up your regular P&L analysis. The $42,000 forgiveness will definitely help your basis position, which is great if you need to take any distributions or if the business has losses to pass through. Keep all your forgiveness documentation with your tax records - you won't need to attach it to the return, but the IRS could ask for it later.
This is really helpful! I'm new to handling S-Corp taxes and the PPP situation has been confusing me. Quick question - when you set up that separate "PPP Loan Forgiveness" account in QuickBooks, did you categorize it under a specific account type? I want to make sure I'm setting this up correctly from the start so it doesn't cause issues when I export to my tax software.
Mia Alvarez
I'm experiencing this exact same issue and this thread has been such a huge relief! Filed on 2/26 with a $2,300 payment through TaxAct and it's been almost 2 weeks with no withdrawal from my account yet. Like so many others here, I've been checking my bank balance obsessively every single day, sometimes multiple times, expecting that money to just vanish. I was starting to spiral thinking I had somehow messed up the electronic payment authorization or that penalties were going to come out of nowhere. Miguel's insight about the 3-4 week processing backlog being widespread this filing season is incredibly reassuring, especially since he's seeing it firsthand across multiple clients at his tax prep office. And all the practical advice about documentation, setting up the online IRS account, and considering EFTPS for future years has been so valuable. I'm going to follow everyone's guidance here - keep that money safely in my account for at least 8 weeks, set up my online IRS account today to verify they received my return, and try to be patient with their processing delays. It's amazing how much less stressful this feels knowing we're all in the same situation and protected from penalties as long as we authorized payment on time. Thanks to everyone for sharing your experiences - you've turned what felt like a personal financial crisis into just another annoying government processing delay that we're all weathering together!
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Diego Mendoza
ā¢I'm going through the exact same thing! Filed on 2/24 with a $2,850 payment through FreeTaxUSA and it's been about 2 weeks now with nothing withdrawn. This thread has been absolutely amazing for calming my nerves - I was convinced I had somehow screwed up my payment authorization. The obsessive bank checking is so real! I've been looking at my account balance like 5 times a day waiting for that money to disappear. Miguel's explanation about the system-wide processing delays really helps put this in perspective. It's so reassuring to know this isn't something we did wrong. I'm definitely going to set up that online IRS account today and keep the money untouched for the full 8 weeks. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - knowing we're all in this together makes the waiting so much more bearable!
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Santiago Martinez
I'm experiencing this exact same issue and this thread has been incredibly helpful! Filed on 2/28 with a $3,150 payment through TurboTax and it's been about 10 days now with no withdrawal from my account. Like everyone else here, I've been obsessively checking my bank balance multiple times a day expecting the money to just disappear overnight. I was starting to worry that maybe I made an error during the electronic payment setup or that the IRS was going to surprise me with penalties later. Miguel's professional insight about the 3-4 week processing backlog being system-wide this year is so reassuring - it really helps to hear from someone working in tax prep who's seeing this pattern across multiple clients. All the practical advice about keeping documentation, setting up the online IRS account, and considering EFTPS for next year has been invaluable. I'm going to follow everyone's guidance here - keep that money safely untouched in my account for at least 8 weeks, set up my online IRS account today to confirm they received my return, and try to practice patience with their processing delays. It's amazing how much less stressful this feels knowing we're all protected from penalties as long as we authorized payment on time. Thanks to everyone for sharing your experiences and solutions - you've transformed what felt like a potential disaster into just another frustrating government delay that we're all navigating together!
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