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Don't forget to look into college financial aid too! When my daughter started college, we discovered that how we claimed her on taxes affected her FAFSA application. Sometimes the tax benefits vs. financial aid benefits can be a tradeoff.
I'm going through this exact transition right now with my oldest! One thing that really helped me plan was creating a simple spreadsheet to compare the financial impact year by year. For 2024 taxes (filed in 2025): You'll still get the full Child Tax Credit since she's 17 at year-end. For 2025 taxes (filed in 2026): No more Child Tax Credit, but if she's in college full-time, you can still claim her as a dependent AND potentially get the American Opportunity Tax Credit (up to $2,500 for the first 4 years of college). The key thing is that "providing more than half her support" - keep track of what you spend on her (tuition, room/board, food, medical, etc.) vs. any income she earns. As long as your support exceeds 50% of her total support for the year, you can claim her. Also, don't forget that claiming her as a dependent might affect her eligibility for certain financial aid, so definitely talk to the college financial aid office before making decisions. Sometimes it's better for the student to file independently depending on the aid packages available. The transition definitely stings financially, but the education credits can help bridge some of that gap if she goes to college!
This is exactly what I needed to see laid out! The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I'm definitely going to do that to track everything. Quick question about the "providing more than half support" calculation - does that include things like car insurance, cell phone bills, and health insurance premiums we pay for her? I want to make sure I'm counting everything correctly. Also, when you mention talking to the financial aid office, should I do that before she even applies to colleges, or wait until after she's been accepted and we see what aid packages look like? I don't want to mess up either the tax benefits or potential aid by making the wrong choice about dependency status. Thanks for breaking this down so clearly - it makes the whole transition feel much more manageable!
Friendly reminder to also check your state tax requirements! Not all states tax capital gains the same way as the federal government. Some states fully tax capital gains as ordinary income, some have their own capital gains rates, and a few don't tax capital gains at all.
Great question about the Washington capital gains tax! You're correct that Washington's new 7% capital gains tax (RCW 82.87) only applies to certain types of capital assets, and personal vehicles are specifically excluded. The tax applies to gains from stocks, bonds, business interests, and similar financial assets, but not to personal property like cars, boats, or household items. So for your car sale situation, you'd only need to worry about federal capital gains tax, not the Washington state tax. This is actually one of the few advantages of Washington not having a general state income tax - most capital gains on personal property aren't subject to additional state taxes here. Just make sure you keep good records showing it was a personal vehicle and not held for business purposes, since that distinction could matter for other tax implications.
This is really helpful clarification about Washington state! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation in California and wondering if anyone knows how CA handles capital gains on personal vehicle sales? I know they generally follow federal tax treatment for most things, but wasn't sure if there are any specific exceptions for cars sold at a gain during these unusual market conditions.
One thing no one has mentioned yet - if you do claim your daughter as a dependent, you might qualify for the American Opportunity Credit (if she's in her first 4 years of post-secondary education) or the Lifetime Learning Credit (available for graduate school). This could save you up to $2,000-$2,500 on your taxes depending on which credit you qualify for and your income level. Since you paid those administrative fees, those would count as qualified education expenses. Keep all your receipts!
The American Opportunity Credit is only for undergrad though, right? OP said their kid is in grad school.
Exactly right - the American Opportunity Credit is only for the first 4 years of undergraduate education. Since OP's daughter is in graduate school, she would only qualify for the Lifetime Learning Credit, which is up to $2,000 per year and can be used for graduate school expenses. Still worth looking into though, especially since OP paid those administrative fees!
Based on what you've described, you should definitely claim your daughter as your dependent for 2024. Since she's 23, a full-time graduate student, has zero income, and you're providing all her support, she clearly meets all the IRS tests for qualifying child status. One important thing to keep in mind - make sure you have good records of all the expenses you paid for her this year. The $4,000 in administrative fees plus her living expenses should easily put you over the "more than half support" threshold, but it's good to have documentation just in case. Also, don't worry about what happened in previous tax years. Each year is completely independent when it comes to dependent status. The fact that she filed on her own last year when she was working has no bearing on this year's situation. Since she has no income this year, she won't need to file a return at all. You'll just claim her as your dependent and potentially qualify for education credits on those administrative fees you paid. It sounds like a straightforward situation once you understand the rules!
This is really helpful! I'm curious though - when you say "good records" of expenses, what exactly counts as documentation? Like do I need actual receipts for groceries and rent I paid for her, or is it okay to estimate those monthly expenses? I kept receipts for the big stuff like the $4,000 in fees, but I didn't think to save grocery receipts or anything like that.
I'm also dealing with a CP05A letter right now and this thread has been absolutely invaluable! I received mine about 4 weeks ago after filing in February and going through the identity verification process. My transcript shows the same pattern everyone is describing - 570 code followed by multiple 971 codes. What's been most helpful from reading everyone's experiences is understanding that this is unfortunately a common issue right now, not something unique to my situation. I was starting to panic thinking I'd made some major error on my return! The inconsistent information from different IRS agents seems to be universal - I've gotten three different explanations for my delay as well. I'm definitely implementing the strategies shared here: keeping detailed call logs, calling early morning (8-9 AM seems to be the sweet spot), requesting to speak with a Tax Examining Technician specifically, and asking for case notes to be read aloud. I'm also going to reorganize my documentation with a detailed spreadsheet matching each receipt to specific expense lines before sending my response. The waiting is incredibly stressful, especially when you're trying to manage business cash flow, but it's reassuring to see that persistence and the right approach do eventually lead to resolution. Thank you all for sharing your experiences and creating such a supportive community around this frustrating process!
I'm so grateful to have found this thread! I'm completely new to dealing with CP05A letters and the IRS review process, and reading everyone's detailed experiences has been both educational and reassuring. It's somewhat comforting to know that the inconsistent information from different agents is a widespread issue rather than something specific to individual cases. The practical strategies everyone has shared - like calling between 8-9 AM, requesting Tax Examining Technicians specifically, keeping detailed call logs, and organizing documentation with spreadsheets - are exactly the kind of actionable advice I need right now. I'm still in the early stages of understanding this process, but having a roadmap from people who have navigated it successfully gives me so much more confidence about moving forward. Thank you for emphasizing the importance of persistence and the right approach - it really helps manage the anxiety when you know there are concrete steps you can take rather than just waiting helplessly!
I'm currently going through my first CP05A experience and this thread has been absolutely incredible for understanding what I'm dealing with! I received my letter about 2 weeks ago after filing in early February. Like everyone else, my transcript shows the 570 code with 971 codes following it. What's been most overwhelming is not knowing what to expect or how long this might take. Reading all of your detailed experiences has given me such a clearer picture of the process and concrete steps I can take. I had no idea I could request case notes, ask for Tax Examining Technicians specifically, or that timing my calls for early morning might make a difference. I'm a freelance graphic designer and this delayed refund is definitely impacting my ability to upgrade some essential software and equipment I need for client projects. The uncertainty around timing makes it really hard to plan business expenses. Based on all the great advice here, I'm planning to call tomorrow morning around 8:30 AM and try some of these strategies. I'm also going to reorganize all my documentation with a detailed spreadsheet before sending anything else to them. The tip about including a point-by-point cover letter explaining each document is something I definitely missed in my initial response. Thank you all for being so generous with sharing your experiences and strategies. It's made this stressful situation feel much more manageable knowing there are specific actions I can take rather than just waiting helplessly!
Welcome to this unfortunately large but very supportive community of CP05A survivors! I'm also pretty new to dealing with these kinds of IRS issues, and like you, I found this thread to be absolutely invaluable for understanding what I was facing. It's amazing how much clearer the process becomes when you have real experiences from people who've been through it rather than just trying to decipher the official IRS language. The freelance perspective really resonates with me too - when you're self-employed, these delays can have such immediate impacts on your ability to invest in your business and serve clients effectively. The strategies everyone has shared here are gold - especially the early morning calling window and requesting specific types of agents. I'm taking notes on everything! The spreadsheet approach and detailed cover letter tips are definitely things I wish I had known from the beginning. I hope your call tomorrow goes really well and you're able to get some concrete answers about your case. Please keep us updated on how it goes - I think we're all learning from each other's experiences and successes!
Amara Eze
Quick tip from someone who went through this: make sure you're calculating your SPT days correctly! As a J1 research scholar, your first 2 years in the US are exempt from counting toward the SPT (that's why you were non-resident in 2022-2023). Starting in your third year (2024), those days start counting. The formula is: all days present in current year (2024) + 1/3 of days present in first preceding year (2023) + 1/6 of days present in second preceding year (2022). When this total exceeds 183, you've met the SPT. But wait! Since you were exempt from counting days in 2022-2023 due to your J1 research scholar status, you're essentially starting fresh in 2024. So you'd need to be physically present in the US for 183 days in 2024 to meet the SPT, which would be around early July if you've been here continuously.
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Giovanni Greco
ā¢Not quite right. The exemption for J1 research scholars means those days don't count toward SPT, but the calculation is a bit more nuanced. Once you hit your 3rd year, you start counting days, but the lookback period still applies - it's just that the previous years contribute 0 days because they were exempt. The IRS has a calculator on their website that helps with this determination. The main thing to remember is that the transition typically happens around day 183 of your third calendar year in the US (assuming continuous presence).
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Amara Eze
ā¢You're right about the nuance - I oversimplified. The exempt days from previous years are treated as if you weren't present in the US for those days. So in the SPT calculation, those days contribute 0 to the formula. So for someone who entered in January 2022, was present all of 2022 and 2023, but those days were exempt, then in 2024 they'd need to accumulate 183 actual physical presence days to meet the SPT threshold. This is why most J1 research scholars transition to resident status in early July of their third year. The IRS calculator is definitely helpful, but it's important to indicate your exempt status for those previous years when using it.
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Rhett Bowman
I'm also a J1 research scholar and went through this exact transition last year! Your understanding is absolutely correct. Once you meet the SPT (which sounds like it'll happen around July 2024 for you), you can elect to be treated as a resident for the entire year using the First-year election. This is almost always the better choice since you'll get the standard deduction on Form 1040 instead of filing 1040NR with no standard deduction. The fact that your employer started withholding FICA taxes from January confirms they're treating you as a resident for the full year. One thing to double-check: make sure you meet all the requirements for the First-year election. You need to be physically present in the US for at least 31 consecutive days during 2024 (which you clearly do) and present for at least 75% of the days between your first day of the 31-day period and the end of the year. For Minnesota, yes, you can file as a resident if you're filing federal as a resident. The state standard deduction will definitely help your tax situation. Don't let colleagues confuse you - J1 research scholars have different rules than J1 students, and your tax status legitimately changes after your second year. You're handling this correctly!
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