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This discussion has been incredibly thorough and helpful! As someone who's been managing S-corp health insurance deductions for a few years now, I wanted to add a couple of practical tips that might save others some headaches. First, when you set up your formal health reimbursement plan, make sure it specifically addresses family members and different types of coverage (COBRA, marketplace, direct pay, etc.). I learned this the hard way when my accountant's initial plan template was too narrow and we had to revise it during an audit. Second, consider setting up a dedicated business savings account just for health insurance reimbursements. While it's not required, it makes the paper trail crystal clear and simplifies bookkeeping. I transfer the quarterly reimbursement amounts there, then pay myself from that account with clear documentation. One thing I haven't seen mentioned - if you're doing this mid-year like the original poster, make sure your payroll processor understands how to handle the health insurance reimbursements on your W-2. Not all payroll companies are familiar with the nuances for S-corp shareholders, and you want to make sure it's coded correctly (subject to income tax but not FICA). The tax savings really are substantial - I'm saving about $3,800 annually on similar premium amounts. The key is getting all the documentation and processes right from the start rather than trying to clean things up later.
This is such valuable practical advice, thank you! The point about making sure the health reimbursement plan specifically addresses different types of coverage is really important - I can see how a generic template might not cover all the nuances of COBRA vs. marketplace plans vs. direct coverage. The dedicated business savings account idea is brilliant too. Even though it's not required, having that clear separation would definitely make bookkeeping cleaner and provide better documentation if ever questioned. It also helps with cash flow planning since you know exactly how much is allocated for health insurance reimbursements. Your point about payroll processors is concerning - I hadn't thought about whether mine would know how to handle this correctly. I'm definitely going to ask them specifically about their experience with S-corp shareholder health insurance reimbursements before we set this up. The last thing I want is incorrect W-2 coding that creates problems down the road. With everyone sharing their real tax savings numbers ($3,800, $4,200, etc.), it's clear this is worth doing right. I'm convinced that getting proper documentation and processes in place from the start will save headaches later. Going to prioritize this before year-end!
This thread has been incredibly informative! I'm also an S-corp owner dealing with health insurance for myself and my spouse, and I had no idea about all these documentation requirements. I've been paying about $9,200 annually for our health insurance premiums directly from my personal account and just taking the self-employed health insurance deduction on my personal return. Based on what everyone's sharing here, it sounds like I'm missing out on doing this the right way through my S-corp. A few questions for the group: When you set up the formal reimbursement plan, did you need to involve a lawyer or was your CPA able to handle the documentation? Also, I'm curious about the timing - if I get this set up before December, can I have my S-corp reimburse me for premiums I've already paid this year? The potential tax savings are compelling. At my tax bracket, I'm probably looking at $2,500+ in additional savings just from structuring this correctly. Definitely seems worth the effort to get proper documentation in place! Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this has given me a clear action plan to discuss with my accountant.
Welcome to the community! Your situation sounds very similar to what many of us have been discussing here. Most CPAs can handle the formal health reimbursement plan documentation - you typically don't need a lawyer unless your situation is particularly complex. Many accountants have template plans they can customize for S-corp health insurance reimbursements. Regarding timing, yes - if you establish the formal plan before year-end, your S-corp can generally reimburse you for premiums paid earlier this year as long as you have proper documentation (keep those payment records!). This is exactly what several others in this thread have done successfully. Your $2,500+ estimated tax savings definitely makes this worthwhile. Just make sure to coordinate with your payroll processor about how to handle the W-2 reporting for the reimbursements - as others mentioned, the amounts need to be included as wages subject to income tax withholding (but not FICA taxes) since you're a shareholder-employee. The consensus here seems to be that getting this structured properly is one of the better moves S-corp owners can make for tax efficiency. Good luck with getting everything set up!
I've been following this discussion and wanted to share my experience as someone who made a similar mistake last year. The advice about removing the SEP-IRA contributions is spot on - I had to do the exact same thing. When I called my custodian to request the excess contribution removal, I specifically said "I need to remove excess contributions due to having multiple employer-sponsored retirement plans for the same business." They knew exactly what I was talking about and had a standard form for this situation. The key thing that helped me was getting everything in writing from the custodian before they processed the removal. They sent me a letter confirming that the distribution would be coded as an excess contribution removal on the 1099-R (code P), not as a regular distribution. This documentation was crucial when I filed my taxes. One more tip: when you call, ask them to calculate any earnings on the excess contributions that also need to be removed. The IRS requires that both the excess contributions AND any earnings attributable to those contributions be distributed. The earnings portion will be taxable, but removing everything properly avoids the ongoing 6% penalty. You're definitely on the right track focusing on the Solo 401k going forward. It really is the better option for self-employed folks who want to maximize their retirement savings in one account.
This is incredibly helpful practical advice! I really appreciate you sharing the specific language to use when calling the custodian - "excess contributions due to having multiple employer-sponsored retirement plans for the same business" - that takes the guesswork out of how to explain my situation. Getting the documentation in writing beforehand is a great tip too. I want to make sure there's a clear paper trail showing this was properly handled as an excess contribution removal rather than a regular distribution. The last thing I need is more confusion when tax time comes around. Your point about the earnings calculation is important - I hadn't thought about the fact that any growth on the excess contributions also needs to come out. I'll make sure to ask them to calculate that portion when I call. Thanks for mentioning the 1099-R code P - that's the kind of detail that could save me headaches later. It sounds like you went through this process successfully, which gives me confidence that I can get it resolved too. Really appreciate everyone in this thread sharing their experiences!
I've been through this exact situation and want to echo what the CPA and others have said - you're definitely fixable, but you need to act quickly! The key insight that helped me was understanding that as a self-employed person, you can't split employer contributions between two different retirement plans for the same business. Your $23,000 Solo 401k employee contribution is totally fine - that's a separate bucket. But the $28,500 SEP-IRA contribution is competing with any employer contributions you might have made to your Solo 401k. I'd recommend calling your SEP-IRA custodian tomorrow and requesting a complete "excess contribution removal" for the entire $28,500 plus any earnings. Use that exact phrase - they'll know what you're talking about. Get the removal processed ASAP so you have documentation before filing your taxes. Going forward, just stick with the Solo 401k. You can actually contribute MORE with just that one account ($23,000 employee + up to 25% of net self-employment income as employer contributions) without all the complexity of managing two different account types. You caught this early enough to fix it properly - don't stress too much about penalties as long as you get the excess removed before your filing deadline!
This whole thread has been incredibly educational! As someone new to self-employment, I had no idea about the complexity of retirement account rules when you're both the employer and employee. I'm just starting my freelance career this year and was actually considering setting up both a SEP-IRA and Solo 401k like the original poster did, thinking more accounts = more savings opportunities. Thank goodness I found this discussion before making the same mistake! It sounds like the Solo 401k is definitely the way to go for most self-employed people. The ability to make both employee and employer contributions in one account, plus higher total limits, makes it seem like a no-brainer compared to juggling multiple retirement accounts. One quick question for anyone still following this thread: when you're just starting out with irregular freelance income, is there a minimum income level where it makes sense to set up a Solo 401k, or should you establish it right away even with lower earnings in the first year?
Just got my refund today! Filed on 2/1, accepted same day. WMR showed DDD of 2/26, but with TurboTax early deposit, it hit my account this morning at 9:43am. Exactly as the schedule predicted. Smooth process from start to finish.
This is incredibly helpful information! I've been using TurboTax for years but never really understood how their early deposit feature worked behind the scenes. My DDD is showing as 3/3/25 on my transcript, so based on this timeline I should expect my deposit by 2/26/25. It's reassuring to see so many people confirming the accuracy of this 5-day calculation. I was debating whether the early deposit fee was worth it, but knowing I can count on this precise timing definitely helps with my monthly budgeting. Thanks for taking the time to call and get the official details from their customer service!
Don't overlook the state estate tax angle. Federal exemptions are high, but states like Massachusetts, Oregon, and Minnesota have much lower exemptions (around $1-3 million). A properly structured trust can help with state estate taxes even if you're below the federal threshold.
This is so true. My parents got caught by this in Washington state. Their $3.5M estate was under the federal limit but still got hit with state estate tax. A credit shelter trust would have saved about $150k in state estate taxes when my dad passed.
This is exactly the kind of comprehensive discussion I was hoping for when I posted this question! Reading through all these responses, I'm realizing that trust planning is way more nuanced than the financial advisor made it sound. A few key takeaways that are helping me understand the basics: 1. The distinction between revocable vs irrevocable trusts is crucial - only irrevocable trusts actually remove assets from the taxable estate 2. There's often a trade-off between estate tax savings and losing the step-up in basis for capital gains 3. At $4.2M, my parents might be more concerned about state estate taxes depending on where they live 4. The generation-skipping transfer tax is something we hadn't even considered but should definitely explore given they have grandchildren I think our next step is to get a proper analysis of their situation before meeting with an estate planning attorney. Some of the tools mentioned here (like taxr.ai) might help us go in more prepared. I also want to research attorneys who specialize specifically in multi-generational planning rather than just general estate work. Thanks everyone for taking the time to share your experiences and knowledge. This community is incredibly helpful for navigating these complex tax situations!
As someone just starting to learn about estate planning, I really appreciate how this discussion broke down such a complex topic! I'm in a similar situation with my parents (though their estate is smaller at around $2.8M) and was completely overwhelmed by all the trust terminology before reading this thread. The point about state estate taxes really hit home - we're in New York and I had no idea they have their own exemption limits that are much lower than federal. Definitely going to look into that further. One question for the group: for someone just getting started with understanding these concepts, would you recommend starting with one of the analysis tools mentioned here, or going straight to an attorney? I'm worried about wasting money on legal consultations when I don't even know what questions to ask yet.
Caesar Grant
Edward, my heart goes out to you during this incredibly difficult time. Losing your mother so unexpectedly at 64 must be devastating, and discovering this substantial cash inheritance adds such complexity when you're already dealing with grief. I'm really impressed by how you're approaching this situation - seeking guidance before acting shows real wisdom and integrity. Your mother clearly trusted you by making you a co-lessee on that safe deposit box, and that handwritten note about "something for the kids" is such a touching reminder of her love and foresight for you and your sister. The advice you've received here has been exceptional, and I want to echo the key points: use an estate account for the initial deposit, bring all your documentation to the bank (executor papers, death certificate, safe deposit box agreement), and don't worry about the Currency Transaction Report - it's just routine paperwork that actually protects you when you have legitimate inherited funds. What strikes me most about your situation is how your mother, even without sharing all the details, was thinking ahead to provide security for her children. Sometimes that generation preferred to keep financial matters private while still ensuring their loved ones would be taken care of. Her decision to keep cash accessible in the safe deposit box, while surprising, was likely her way of making sure you and your sister would have immediate resources when needed. Take your time with this process. There's no need to rush, and handling everything properly through estate administration will give you peace of mind for years to come. Your mother's final gift to you both deserves to be handled with the care and respect you're already showing. Wishing you strength as you navigate this process and honor your mother's memory.
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Drake
ā¢Caesar, your message beautifully captures the emotional and practical aspects of Edward's situation. As someone who's new to this community, I've been deeply moved by the compassionate and knowledgeable responses Edward has received during what must be an incredibly overwhelming time. Your point about his mother's foresight really resonates with me. That handwritten note mentioning "something for the kids" and her decision to make Edward a co-lessee shows such thoughtful planning, even if she kept the details private. It's touching to think that even in her passing, she's still providing for her children's security. The consistent advice throughout this thread about proper estate administration, transparent documentation, and not fearing routine reporting requirements has been so educational for me. It's clear that many community members have real experience navigating these complex situations. Edward, I hope you're finding comfort in knowing that you have such clear guidance and that your mother's love and provision for you and your sister can be honored through handling this inheritance properly and responsibly.
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Mei Lin
Edward, I'm so sorry for your loss. Losing your mother unexpectedly is devastating, and finding yourself dealing with complex estate matters while grieving makes everything so much harder. The advice you've received here is excellent - particularly about using an estate account and being completely transparent with the bank. I went through something similar with my father's estate last year, and I can tell you that banks handle these situations more often than you might think. One small addition to the great guidance already given: when you visit the bank, consider asking to speak with a manager or someone experienced in estate matters. They can walk you through their specific procedures and may even provide you with a checklist of what documentation they prefer to see. This can make the whole process feel less intimidating. Your mother clearly loved you and your sister deeply. That handwritten note about "something for the kids" shows she was thinking of your welfare even if she didn't share all the details. By handling this properly through estate administration, you're honoring both her memory and her intentions for providing for you both. Take your time with this process - there's no need to rush. Getting professional guidance for an estate with this level of assets is really wise and will give you confidence that you're doing everything correctly.
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Anastasia Popov
ā¢Mei, that's such practical advice about asking to speak with a bank manager experienced in estate matters. As someone completely new to these types of situations, I hadn't thought about how banks might have specific procedures or even checklists for estate-related deposits. That could really help reduce the anxiety of walking in with such a large cash amount. Edward, reading through all these responses has been so educational for me. The consistent themes of transparency, proper documentation, and using estate accounts really seem to be the golden rules for handling inherited cash. It's also touching how many people have shared similar experiences - it shows this is more common than you might initially think, and that others have successfully navigated the same challenges you're facing. Your mother's planning, even without sharing all the details, really shows her love and care for you and your sister. I hope all this guidance is helping you feel more confident about moving forward during such a difficult time.
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