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Another option worth considering is making the contribution to a Roth IRA instead, if your income allows it. While you won't get the tax deduction now, the money grows tax-free and withdrawals in retirement are tax-free too. We ran into the same issue a few years back when my husband's income increased. We ended up switching to Roth contributions going forward and just left the existing Traditional IRA alone.
I think I'm over the income limit for direct Roth contributions too. Do you know if I'd run into any issues if I go with the backdoor Roth approach mentioned above? I'm wondering if there's a timing issue since I already made the Traditional contribution a few months ago.
The timing shouldn't be an issue for the backdoor Roth approach. You can convert Traditional IRA funds to Roth at any time - there's no deadline for that part of the process. The only timing concern is getting your contribution classified correctly (as non-deductible) on your tax return. Just make sure you file Form 8606 with your taxes to document the non-deductible contribution, then do the conversion whenever you're ready. Some people prefer to wait a bit between contribution and conversion, while others do it immediately. Either way works fine from a tax perspective.
Has anyone dealt with this where both spouses are over the income limit? My husband and I both have 401ks at work and our combined income puts us well over the limit for deductible IRA contributions. We've been doing backdoor Roth contributions but I'm worried we're missing something.
You're on the right track! When both spouses are over the income limit and covered by workplace plans, backdoor Roth is typically the way to go. Just make sure you're keeping separate IRAs (never combine them) and each filing Form 8606 annually.
Just want to add that when I got an IRS notice about underreported income, I discovered that sometimes brokerages report "proceeds" to the IRS but don't include your cost basis, making it look like you had way more taxable gain than you actually did. Check if your 1099-B has anything marked as "basis not reported to the IRS" - if so, the IRS might be counting the full sale amount as taxable income. Super common issue that causes these kinds of letters. Might be worth double-checking before paying anything or hiring help!
How would I know if the basis wasn't reported? Is there something specific to look for on the form? Because I think this might be exactly my issue.
Look at your 1099-B form from your brokerage - there should be a column that indicates whether the cost basis was reported to the IRS. Sometimes there's a checkbox, other times it might say "Covered" versus "Noncovered" transactions, or it might explicitly state "Cost basis not reported to IRS" for certain transactions. Noncovered securities (typically those acquired before certain dates or transferred from other brokerages) don't have their cost basis automatically reported to the IRS, so the IRS only sees the sale proceeds. In those cases, they might assume your entire proceeds are gains unless you properly report the cost basis on Form 8949.
As someone who used to work at a brokerage, this stuff happens ALL the time. Before paying anything, request a "CP2000 response form" and fill it out with your objection. Include copies of your original 1099 forms showing the correct amounts. The IRS is basically doing a matching program - they compare what's reported to them versus what's on your return. If your broker submitted incorrect info, you need to explain the discrepancy. Honestly, for a low thousands amount, you might not need a professional unless you're completely lost with tax forms. The TAS (Taxpayer Advocate Service) suggestion above is good, but they're extremely backlogged right now.
Could there be a situation where your tax advisor might be right? I wonder if they're thinking about income limits. If you're near or over the income limit for Roth contributions, you might need to do a backdoor Roth (contribute to traditional then convert), which WOULD require Form 8606. Might be worth asking your advisor specifically why they think you need that form. If they're suggesting a backdoor Roth strategy, that's a whole different situation.
That's actually a really good point that I hadn't considered! My income is definitely below the Roth limits (about $95k for 2023), but maybe my advisor was assuming I'd be doing a backdoor Roth? I'll ask them specifically if that's what they were suggesting. If they were just mistaken about regular Roth contributions needing Form 8606, it might be time to find a new advisor...
Definitely worth a clarifying conversation with them. If your income is $95k, you're well within the limits for direct Roth contributions ($138,000 for single filers in 2023), so backdoor wouldn't be necessary. Some tax advisors who deal primarily with higher-income clients get so used to recommending backdoor Roth strategies that they sometimes default to that advice without checking if a direct contribution is possible. Or they might just be confusing the reporting requirements between traditional and Roth IRAs.
Just a reminder to make sure your contribution is earmarked specifically for 2023! I made a contribution in March last year and didn't clearly specify which tax year, and my investment company defaulted it to 2023 when I had intended it for 2022. Was a huge hassle to get fixed. Usually when you contribute online there's a dropdown to select the tax year, or if doing it by mail/check there's a place to note it.
Your problem sounds like a case of "not enough withholding" rather than "filing incorrectly." The fact that your coworkers get refunds while you owe probably means they have different withholding elections. Double check your most recent pay stub. What filing status is listed there? Some companies show this info on the stub. If it says "Single" but the withholding seems low, you might have inadvertently checked the "Multiple Jobs" box on your W-4 which can reduce withholding. Another thing to consider: are you getting any other pretax deductions that your coworkers aren't? Heavy 401k contributions, HSA contributions, or health insurance premiums can lower your taxable wages and thus reduce withholding as well.
Just checked my pay stub and it does say "Single" for filing status, but there's nothing about multiple jobs. I do max out my 401k ($22,500/year) and have an HSA that I put about $3,000 into annually. Could those really affect my withholding that much? I thought those were smart financial moves.
Those are absolutely smart financial moves! The issue isn't that you're doing anything wrong - it's that the withholding system doesn't always account for them perfectly. When you contribute to 401k and HSA, your taxable income for each paycheck is lower, so the system withholds less tax. However, those contributions don't reduce your tax brackets - they just reduce your total taxable income. If you're near a bracket threshold, this can create a withholding gap. This explains the difference between you and your coworkers too. If they're not maxing retirement accounts, their withholding calculation is more straightforward. Your situation is actually financially better (huge retirement savings), but it requires manual adjustment to your withholding to avoid the surprise tax bill.
Side question - has anyone else noticed that the IRS withholding calculator STILL doesn't work right? I used it to adjust my withholding last year and I'm still owing a ton. Do I just not understand how to use it or is it genuinely broken?
The IRS calculator isn't technically broken, but it's not great for complex situations. It works best for people with one job, standard income, and no special circumstances. The moment you add variables like education expenses, multiple income sources, or significant pre-tax deductions, it falls apart. I found the calculator on smartasset.com to be much more accurate for estimating actual withholding needs. It lets you input more details about your specific situation.
Thanks, I'll check out that other calculator. I was starting to think I was going crazy because I followed the IRS calculator recommendations exactly and still ended up owing over $2k. Good to know it's not just me!
Freya Thomsen
One thing to consider with married filing separately that many people overlook - you both have to take the standard deduction OR you both have to itemize. You can't have one spouse itemize while the other takes the standard deduction. This can make a huge difference in your refund calculation. Also, with MFS, you'll lose several tax benefits like education credits, child and dependent care credit, earned income credit, and the student loan interest deduction. Make sure whatever tax program you're using is accounting for these limitations!
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Omar Fawaz
ā¢Is that seriously true that both spouses have to choose the same deduction method?? I had no idea! We were planning to have my husband itemize since he has tons of deductible expenses while I'd take the standard deduction. Will this really not work?
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Freya Thomsen
ā¢Yes, it's absolutely true and it's one of the biggest "gotchas" with married filing separately. If one spouse itemizes, the other MUST also itemize - even if they have very few deductions. This often means the second spouse ends up with a very small itemized deduction amount that would have been much better served by taking the standard deduction. This requirement often wipes out much of the potential benefit of filing separately, which is why it's so important to run the numbers both ways. The tax code deliberately makes MFS less advantageous in most situations to encourage joint filing.
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Chloe Martin
When I tried TaxAct last year there was a HUGE difference between their initial estimate and final amount too. For me it was because the software hadn't yet factored in the self-employment tax on my side gig income until later in the process. That made a $4,000 difference!
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Diego Rojas
ā¢I've had similar experiences with TurboTax too. These programs often show "refund estimates" before they've calculated everything. Sometimes they don't include state taxes or certain penalties until the very end of the process.
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