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Regarding the original post - I'm pretty sure Letter 3064C is specifically related to the CARES Act provision where employers could defer paying their portion of Social Security tax in 2020. Regular employees should NOT be liable for this. Does the letter have your social security number on it or a business EIN? That would be a key clue whether they're trying to collect from you personally or if there's just some mixup with addresses.
It has my SSN on it! That's why I'm so confused and worried. It specifically mentions the "employer's share" but it's addressed to me personally with my social security number. I've worked for this company for 5 years but I'm just a regular employee - not a manager, not an owner, nothing. I just do construction work.
That's definitely concerning that it has your SSN on it. This suggests either a serious IRS error or potentially something more problematic is happening with your employer. Here's what I recommend: 1) Call the IRS using the number on the letter and explain you're just a regular employee with no financial authority, 2) Request a copy of any tax filings that listed you as responsible for the company's taxes, and 3) Document everything including the person you speak with. There's a small possibility your employer may have listed you as an officer or responsible person without your knowledge, which would be very problematic. Don't ignore this - addressing it promptly is important.
Did you possibly have any 1099 work or side business during the pandemic years? The CARES Act allowed self-employed people to defer their Social Security tax payments too, not just regular businesses with employees. If you did any independent contractor work, that might explain why you're getting this letter.
I did do some side jobs on weekends during 2020-2021, but I didn't think it was enough to matter. Maybe like $5,300 total across both years. I reported it on my taxes but I didn't know anything about deferring Social Security taxes - I definitely never consciously chose to defer any taxes!
This is probably it. If you reported self-employment income on Schedule C during 2020, you were eligible to defer the employer portion of self-employment taxes under the CARES Act. Some tax software automatically applied this deferral as a benefit without making it super clear to users. The deferred amounts were due in two payments - 50% by December 31, 2021, and the remaining 50% by December 31, 2022. If you didn't make those payments, that would explain the letter you're getting now.
This is a bit of a side question, but since you mentioned having a nanny - did you pay them over $2,400 in 2024? Because if you paid less than that threshold, you don't actually need to withhold Social Security and Medicare taxes, which means the W-2 situation might be simpler. Just wondering if that applies to your situation?
Just be super careful with electronic W-2s. I emailed one to my housekeeper last year and it turned into a disaster when someone hacked her email account and filed a fraudulent return with her info before she could. The IRS explicitly recommends securing any electronic tax documents with passwords or encryption. Maybe ask your nanny if they'd be ok with you using a secure file transfer service instead of direct email?
This is good advice. I send my gardener his W-2 through a password-protected PDF with the password texted separately to his phone. That way even if someone gets into his email, they can't open the actual document without the password from a different channel.
I'm an expatriate tax consultant, and this exact example confuses many of my clients. Here's the clearest way I can explain it: The physical presence test requires 330 full days of presence in a foreign country during a period of 12 consecutive months. In the example, counting forward 330 days from June 1, 2022 (excluding US days) gets you to May 12, 2023. Now you need to identify which 12-month period contains those 330 days. The period must end on May 11, 2023 (not May 12) because: - If the period ended on May 12, 2023, it would start on May 13, 2022 - But your qualifying foreign presence began on June 1, 2022 - So a period from May 13, 2022 to May 12, 2023 would include days before you established foreign presence That's why they use May 11 as the end date - to create a 12-month period (May 12, 2022 to May 11, 2023) that properly contains all your qualifying days.
But if I started my foreign assignment on April 15, 2022 (earlier than the example's June 1), wouldn't the period from May 13, 2022 to May 12, 2023 work just fine? All those days would still be within my foreign presence period, right?
If you started your foreign assignment on April 15, 2022, then yes, a period from May 13, 2022 to May 12, 2023 would technically work for you. But the IRS example is specifically dealing with someone who began their foreign presence on June 1, 2022. The key is finding the optimal 12-month period that maximizes your qualifying days. If you started on April 15, you might actually have a different optimal 12-month period than the one in the example. You'd need to count forward 330 days from your start date (accounting for any US visits) and then establish your specific 12-month period.
Anyone know if 2025 is bringing any changes to the FEIE physical presence test? I've heard rumors about the IRS tightening the rules for digital nomads who bounce between countries. Will this counting method stay the same?
As far as I know, the basic mechanics of the physical presence test aren't changing for 2025. The 330-day requirement and 12-month period calculation should remain the same. What might be getting more scrutiny is whether digital nomads truly have a "tax home" in a foreign country, which is a separate requirement for the FEIE.
Another option is to open your own bank account if possible. Some banks offer teen accounts that your parents don't have access to. Then you can have your refund direct deposited there. If your dad is filing your taxes for you, make sure you see the final return before it's submitted and verify your refund is going to YOUR account, not his. If he's e-filing, you should be able to see where the refund is being directed.
Can I even open my own bank account at 17 though? I thought you had to be 18 to do that without a parent.
Most major banks offer teen checking accounts starting around age 13-16, but they typically require a parent as a co-owner until you're 18. However, some credit unions and online banks have better options for minors with more privacy. Even with a joint account, your dad would technically be violating the account agreement if he took money that was clearly yours (like a tax refund) for his own use. You could also consider asking another trusted adult (like an aunt, uncle, or grandparent) to help you open an account instead of your dad.
I had this exact situation when I was 16! My dad tried to claim my $700 refund and I ended up filing my own taxes (super easy with free tax software) and getting the money sent to my aunt's address as a paper check. My dad was LIVID but couldn't do anything about it. Just make sure you file BEFORE your dad tries to claim your income on his taxes. If he's already filed and included your income incorrectly, it gets more complicated.
Salim Nasir
One thing to consider with high net worth tax prep is whether you need a specialist in specific asset classes. When we sold our business, we initially went with a generalist CPA who missed several key deductions related to our commercial real estate holdings. We ended up switching to a firm that specialized in both business exit planning AND real estate. The difference was substantial - they restructured our property ownership through a DST (Delaware Statutory Trust) that allowed us to defer nearly $430K in capital gains taxes.
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Hazel Garcia
ā¢How did you find a specialist who knew both business exits and real estate? I'm in a similar situation but everyone I talk to seems to know one area well but not both. Did you use a Big 4 firm or a boutique?
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Salim Nasir
ā¢I actually avoided Big 4 firms after interviewing two of them. Found our specialist through a real estate investment group I belong to - several members had used this boutique firm that specifically focuses on business owners with significant real estate portfolios. The key was finding someone who understood the intersection of business exit planning and real estate optimization - not just someone who happened to work with both separately. I'd recommend asking for specific examples of cases where they've handled both aspects together, not just checking boxes for experience in each area.
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Laila Fury
Has anyone else noticed that high net worth tax software is basically garbage? I tried three different "premium" packages last year after our company IPO and all of them crashed when dealing with RSUs, NSOs, and our donor-advised fund contributions.
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Geoff Richards
ā¢TaxPro Premier worked decent for me last year with RSUs and options, but completely failed with my private equity investments. I ended up having to use a combination of software for initial organization and then an actual CPA to review everything. Paid more in the end but avoided some serious mistakes the software made with my cost basis calculations.
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