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Something else to consider - make sure you're using the correct household income for your calculations. Your household income for premium tax credit purposes includes the Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI) of everyone in the tax household. For the months you were a dependent, your income would be included in your mom's household income. For months you weren't a dependent, your income wouldn't be included. This can dramatically affect the premium tax credit calculation.
What exactly counts as MAGI for the ACA premium tax credit? Is it just the AGI from the tax return or are there adjustments? I had some student loan interest and moving expenses last year if that matters.
For ACA premium tax credit purposes, MAGI is your AGI plus certain additions: non-taxable Social Security benefits, tax-exempt interest, and foreign earned income. Student loan interest deductions don't affect your MAGI calculation since they're already accounted for in your AGI. Moving expenses generally don't factor into the MAGI calculation either, as long as they're legitimate deductions on your tax return. The key is focusing on which months you were legally considered a dependent - that's what determines whether your income counts toward your mom's household income for premium tax credit purposes.
Has anyone used TurboTax for this situation? I'm trying to figure out if the premium software is worth it for handling the ACA stuff with changing dependents. The free version seems confused by my situation.
I used TurboTax Premier and it handled my similar situation pretty well. It asks month-by-month questions about household composition and walks you through the premium tax credit calculations. Just make sure you have your 1095-A form handy and know which months your status changed.
Everyone's focusing on fixing the withholding, which is important, but there's also an easy workaround if the employer continues to be difficult. Your coworker can just make quarterly estimated tax payments directly to the IRS using Form 1040-ES. This way, they're covered even if payroll never fixes the issue. They can calculate roughly what they should be paying each quarter based on their income and filing status. It's a bit more work, but it ensures they won't face penalties next April for underpayment.
Isn't doing quarterly payments a lot of extra work though? And how would someone even figure out how much to pay? I feel like making the employer fix their mistake is better than creating more work for the employee.
It's actually not too complicated. The IRS has worksheets on the 1040-ES form that help calculate the proper amount. Basically, you estimate your annual income, determine your expected tax, and divide by four. I agree the employer should fix the issue - that's definitely the right long-term solution. But quarterly payments are a good backup plan if the employer continues to drag their feet. It gives the employee protection from underpayment penalties while they fight the larger battle. Better to be proactive than end up with a huge tax bill and penalties next year.
This happened to me! Turns out the issue was that when ADP set up my profile, they accidentally checked a box marking me as "exempt" from federal withholding. No matter what I put on my W-4, nothing was being withheld. Have your coworker specifically ask if they've been marked as exempt in the system. Sometimes it's just a simple checkbox that got clicked during setup and no one notices it.
Don't forget to set aside money for self-employment tax!! This catches so many first-time sellers off guard. You'll owe about 15.3% on your net profit for social security and medicare taxes, ON TOP OF regular income tax.
This is really important! I got hit with a surprise $400 tax bill my first year selling online because I didn't know about self-employment tax. Even small businesses have to pay it.
If you're feeling overwhelmed, the IRS has a special small business tax center with guides specifically for self-employed people: https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed Also check if your state has sales tax requirements for online sellers. Some states require you to collect and remit sales tax even for small amounts of sales.
One important thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure your new 401k plan actually accepts rollovers of non-Roth IRA funds. Not all plans do! Check with your HR department or plan administrator before going too far down this road. Also, keep in mind that once you move money to a 401k, you'll be subject to the investment options in that plan, which might be more limited than what you have in your IRA. Worth considering if investment flexibility is important to you.
That's a good point! I did confirm with my plan administrator that they accept IRA rollovers, but I'll double-check there aren't any special restrictions. Our 401k plan actually has pretty decent investment options (Vanguard institutional funds with low expense ratios), so I'm not too worried about that part. The main goal is clearing out the pre-tax money so I can do backdoor Roth contributions without dealing with the pro-rata rule mess every year.
Glad to hear you've already checked on the rollover acceptance! That's great that your plan has good investment options too - that makes the decision much easier. You're absolutely right to focus on clearing out the pre-tax money for clean backdoor Roth contributions. The pro-rata rule calculations are a pain to deal with annually. I've had clients who avoided backdoor Roth conversions for years simply because they didn't want to deal with the paperwork complexity of having mixed funds.
Anybody know if there's a minimum amount you need to keep in your 401k after rolling money in? My company plan says I need at least $5000 or they can cash me out. Would this apply to rolled-over IRA funds too?
This varies by 401k plan, so you'll need to check your specific plan documents. Most plans that have minimum balance requirements apply those rules to all money in the plan, including rollovers. The $5,000 threshold is pretty common. However, they typically can't "cash you out" of rollover funds the same way they might with small employer contribution balances. Instead, if your balance falls below their minimum, they might roll it to an IRA automatically rather than sending you a check. If you're actively employed and making contributions through payroll, you'll likely stay above any minimum threshold naturally as your contributions come in.
Abby Marshall
Your relative is definitely taking advantage of you, but there are some practical considerations here too. If you suddenly file taxes and report this income, it could trigger an audit for your relative's business. That might be warranted, but consider if you're financially and emotionally prepared for the fallout. A middle ground approach might be: 1. Start fresh this tax year - insist on proper employment status moving forward 2. Gradually address the past years if needed 3. Consider consulting with a tax professional who specializes in small businesses The dependent claim is definitely incorrect based on your income. Even if you did qualify as a dependent by living with them and having them provide housing/food, your income is still taxable to you, not them.
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Raul Neal
β’That middle ground approach sounds reasonable. I really don't want to blow up my family relationships, but I also can't continue like this. Do you think it would be reasonable to ask my relative to start properly employing me going forward, but not worry about the past years? Or am I legally obligated to correct previous years too?
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Abby Marshall
β’You technically have a legal obligation to file taxes for all years where your income exceeded the filing threshold. However, from a practical standpoint, many people focus on moving forward correctly while addressing past issues gradually. The IRS generally looks more favorably on taxpayers who voluntarily come into compliance before being caught. If you decide to start filing properly from this point forward, you reduce additional non-compliance issues. Then you might consider filing amended returns for the previous three years (that's typically how far back the IRS looks unless they suspect fraud).
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Sadie Benitez
Something important nobody's mentioned: Your relative is committing workers' compensation fraud. If you got seriously injured on the job, you'd have zero protection. No medical coverage, no disability payments, nothing. They're saving a ton of money by not paying workers' comp insurance premiums. Also, what state are you in? Some states have much stricter penalties for worker misclassification than others. California, for example, has been cracking down hard on these arrangements.
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Drew Hathaway
β’This is so true. My cousin worked under the table for years at a construction job. He fell off a roof and broke his back. No workers' comp, no disability, nothing. His boss completely abandoned him and he ended up on Medicaid with no income. It's been 5 years and he's still fighting for any kind of compensation while being permanently disabled. Don't wait until something happens!
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