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OP, I worked as a tax professional for 12 years, and I can tell you with certainty: file that 2018 return! The volunteer preparers are confusing two different concepts: 1. The IRS typically has 3 years to AUDIT a return after filing 2. The IRS has 10 years to COLLECT tax debt after assessment But neither of these timelines even START until you actually file! By not filing, you're leaving yourself vulnerable indefinitely. Additionally, penalties and interest continue to accrue on unfiled returns where tax is owed.
Thanks for the clear explanation! This makes a lot more sense than what the volunteers told me. Do you know if filing the 2018 return now will hurt my OIC chances for 2017? Like, will adding more debt make them less likely to approve it?
Filing your 2018 return now won't hurt your OIC chances - in fact, it's absolutely required. When you submit an OIC, the IRS will check that you're in compliance with all filing requirements before they even consider your offer. As for the additional debt potentially affecting your offer amount, it could be factored into your "reasonable collection potential" calculation. However, this is much better than having your OIC rejected outright due to non-compliance. The IRS looks at your overall ability to pay, so while the total debt matters, your financial situation is the primary factor in determining an acceptable offer amount.
I'm confused about something - isn't there a deadline to claim refunds too? Like if OP was owed money instead of owing, wouldn't there be a 3-year limit to claim that refund?
Another option you might look into - if either you or your spouse is self-employed, you might be able to set up a Dependent Care Benefit program. It's complicated but basically allows self-employed individuals to deduct some childcare costs as a business expense. We did this last year with help from our accountant. You need to make sure all the paperwork is proper and it needs to be available to all your employees (if you have any), but it's worth exploring if applicable to your situation.
How does this work exactly? My husband has a side business (LLC) but it's just him, no employees. Would this still be an option for us? Our nanny costs are killing us tax-wise.
This gets a bit complicated, but here's how it works: If your husband's business is just him with no employees, it's trickier but still potentially viable. The key requirement is that if you offer this benefit, it needs to be available to all employees on a non-discriminatory basis. In a single-member LLC situation, you'd need to ensure the plan documents are properly drafted to show it would be available to future employees if they were hired. Some tax professionals are more comfortable with this approach than others. The benefit allows you to deduct a portion of qualifying dependent care expenses as a business expense rather than a personal deduction, which can be more valuable.
Has anyone here actually used a CDCTC (Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit) with nanny wages? I'm confused about the reporting. Do I use the total I paid her including the taxes, or just her wages? And where exactly do I record this on my tax forms?
For the CDCTC, you generally report the wages you pay directly to the nanny, not including the employer taxes. The qualifying expenses are reported on Form 2441. You'll need your nanny's SSN or tax ID number, and you'll list the care provider's information (your nanny's name, address, and tax ID) in Part I of the form. Make sure you're also filing Schedule H with your tax return to report household employment taxes, and don't forget about state-level requirements like filing DE 3BHW in California. The nanny needs to receive a W-2 by January 31 showing their wages.
In addition to what others have said, make sure you're factoring in the correct standard deduction for your filing status and tax year. These numbers change annually. For 2024, single filer standard deduction is $13,850. Also, remember that tax brackets are marginal. You only pay the higher percentage on income above each threshold. I've seen people calculate their entire tax based on their highest bracket, which is a common mistake.
Thanks for pointing this out! I am using the 2024 standard deduction amount ($13,850) in my calculations. And I think I'm applying the tax brackets correctly with the marginal approach - only applying the higher rate to the portion of income that falls within that bracket. I'm starting to understand that my main issue is likely how I'm treating the different pre-tax deductions for FICA vs federal income tax. That would explain the discrepancy.
Glad to hear you're using the correct standard deduction! And it sounds like you're applying the marginal tax rates correctly too. Yes, the distinction between how deductions are treated for federal income tax versus FICA is almost certainly the source of your calculation discrepancy. Once you separate those calculations in your spreadsheet - one for federal income tax (where most pre-tax deductions apply) and another for FICA (where fewer deductions apply) - you should get much closer to matching those online calculators. It's a common source of confusion even for people who are otherwise tax-savvy.
An easy way to check your work is to look at your final paystub from last year (or a current paystub if you're trying to project for this year). Multiply the withholding amounts by the appropriate number to get annual totals. For example, if paid biweekly, multiply by 26. If paid semi-monthly, multiply by 24. Then you can see if your calculated liability is in the ballpark of what's being withheld. Remember that withholding isn't perfect, but it should be reasonably close for a straightforward W-2 income situation.
This is great advice, but keep in mind that withholding tables are just approximations based on your W-4. If you have other income sources or deductions that aren't factored into your W-4, your actual tax liability could differ significantly from what's being withheld.
Double-check your pay stub to see if they're withholding for benefits you didn't sign up for. When I started my job, they automatically enrolled me in all their optional insurance plans (dental, vision, life, disability) PLUS the highest 401k contribution. My first paycheck was tiny! Had to go to HR to fix it all.
Oh that's a good point I didn't even consider! I did sign up for health insurance and the 401k match program, but there might be other stuff I didn't catch. I'll definitely check this on my next stub and talk to HR if anything looks fishy. Is there a standard percentage I should expect to see for all deductions combined? It just seems like a huge chunk of my paycheck is disappearing.
There's no standard percentage since it really depends on your specific benefits and choices. Health insurance can be anywhere from $50 to $500+ per paycheck depending on the plan and if you're covering family members. 401k could be 3-15% of your income depending on what you selected. Look at your pay stub line by line - the withholding amounts should be clearly labeled. Pay special attention to anything marked as "optional" or any insurance codes you don't recognize. Sometimes there are benefit programs you can opt out of if you don't need them.
Something that throws a lot of people off is that your first couple paychecks often have higher withholding percentages! The payroll system calculates as if you'll earn that same amount for the whole year, so if you start mid-year, it's withholding at a higher rate than necessary. It usually evens out after 2-3 pay periods.
This is exactly what happened to me! First paycheck was super low, but by the third one things normalized. Payroll systems are weird.
This is really helpful to know - I didn't realize the withholding would adjust over time. I'll keep an eye on my next couple of paychecks before panicking more. Thanks for explaining this!
Nia Thompson
Has anyone tried just going directly to the IRS office in person? I think they have taxpayer assistance centers where you can walk in. Might be easier than dealing with phones and websites.
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Mateo Rodriguez
ā¢Most IRS Taxpayer Assistance Centers require appointments now - you can't just walk in. And the appointment availability can be weeks out during tax season. I tried this route last year and the earliest appointment was 3 weeks away. Just something to keep in mind!
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Nia Thompson
ā¢Thanks for that info! I had no idea they required appointments now. That's really good to know, would've been frustrating to drive there only to be turned away. Do you know if there's a special procedure for emergency situations like missing W2s, or do you still have to wait for an appointment regardless? I actually ended up getting through on the phone after multiple attempts, but it took almost 2 hours of waiting. The person I spoke with was helpful though.
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Aisha Hussain
Your employer sounds super sketchy! Besides the W2 issue, the fact that they're consistently late with paychecks is a HUGE red flag and actually illegal in most states. You should definitely report them to your state's labor department for wage payment violations. As for the W2, follow the advice about Form 4852, but also consider looking for a new job asap. Companies with payroll problems often have cash flow issues that only get worse. I've seen this pattern before, and it usually ends with bounced paychecks or suddenly closing down.
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GalacticGladiator
ā¢I second this. Had an employer with similar "payroll correction" excuses and late paychecks. Six months later they shut down with no notice and owed everyone 3 weeks of back pay. Get your resume updated now while dealing with the W2 issue.
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