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Important point that no one has mentioned yet: make sure to find out your state's specific rules about what constitutes "payment." Some states consider a tax paid when the check is received, others when it's processed, and some only when it's actually deposited. In my state (Illinois), the law specifically says payment is considered made on the date received by the department. So having proof of mailing (certified mail receipt) establishes a presumption of receipt that can help your case. You might want to look up the specific regulations for your state. Also, document EVERYTHING in your communications with the tax department from this point forward. Names, dates, what was discussed, reference numbers. This can be crucial if you need to escalate.
Is there any repository or website where you can look up these specific state rules? Trying to figure out what counts as "payment" in Colorado.
You can usually find these rules in your state's tax code or administrative code, which should be available online through your state's legislative website or department of revenue site. Search for terms like "date of payment" or "timely payment" along with "tax." For Colorado specifically, I believe they follow what's known as the "timely mailed, timely filed" rule, which means the postmark date is considered the payment date if sent by U.S. mail. They also have specific provisions for electronic payments. You can find these details in the Colorado Revised Statutes and the Department of Revenue's tax regulations. Their taxpayer service division can also provide this information if you call them directly.
Just my two cents here, but isn't this why everyone should be paying their taxes electronically now? I haven't mailed a check for taxes in like 10 years. The confirmation codes from electronic payments have saved me multiple times when there were questions about whether I paid.
Electronic payments aren't always an option for everyone though. My small business has to make special estimated payments for a particular industry tax that our state still requires to be submitted by mail with a special voucher form. It's ridiculous but that's how they want it.
That's a fair point. I didn't consider that some specialized tax types might still require physical payments. In those cases, I'd probably still try to use my bank's bill pay service rather than writing personal checks, since the bank creates an electronic record of when the payment was sent out, which gives you an additional layer of documentation. It's frustrating that some tax departments haven't fully modernized their systems yet, especially for business-specific taxes. Hopefully more states move toward comprehensive electronic payment options soon, as it's clearly better for both the taxpayers and the tax departments in terms of record-keeping. Profile: 1
As someone who's filed both ways for years, here's my advice: start doing your own taxes while they're simple! It builds good knowledge for later in life. I use tax software for myself (simple W-2 income) but pay a CPA for my parents (retirement income, investments, rental property). The difference is complexity. A CPA is overkill for most young people with just W-2 income. The CPA vs H&R Block debate - it's about expertise level. H&R Block preparers take a training course. CPAs have accounting degrees, passed difficult exams, and maintain continuing education. For complex situations, a CPA is worth it. For basic returns, H&R Block is probably fine but costs more than DIY options.
Would you say the same is true for small side businesses? I drive for Uber on weekends but not sure if that makes things complicated enough for professional help.
Side gigs like Uber definitely add some complexity, but they're still manageable with good tax software. You'll need to track business expenses (mileage, portion of phone bill, etc.) and file Schedule C, but most tax programs walk you through this process with specific questions for rideshare drivers. If your side business grows substantially or you have multiple income streams, that might be when professional help becomes more valuable. The key is honestly assessing the complexity of your situation. One straightforward side gig is typically still in DIY territory, especially with the specialized guidance modern tax software provides.
omg am i the only one who just uses the free online calculator things?? i literally just copy numbers from my w2 into freetaxusa and hit submit. takes like 15 min and i've always gotten a refund. my brother paid h&r block $89 last year and got back LESS than me lol. unless you have like investments or a house or whatever just do it yourself!!!
3 When I was your age I had a similar thing happen - got all excited about a huge refund estimate only to find out it was wrong. Quick tip: if you earned around $36k across 3 jobs, double check if you reported your filing status correctly in the calculator. If you accidentally selected "Head of Household" instead of "Single" it could inflate your refund estimate. Also, did you have any education expenses last year? There are credits like the American Opportunity Credit that can give you up to $2,500 if you had qualifying education expenses, which could explain part of that large refund.
1 Ahh that might be it! I think I might have selected Head of Household by accident. And I actually did take a couple classes at community college last fall that cost about $2,000 total. Would that qualify for that education credit you mentioned? I didn't even know that was a thing.
3 The American Opportunity Credit would absolutely apply to your community college expenses. It gives you a credit of 100% of the first $2,000 in qualified education expenses, which would give you a $2,000 credit right there. That along with the filing status confusion could explain a big chunk of that $5,000 estimate. Make sure you have Form 1098-T from your college which shows your tuition payments. When you file your actual return, use that form to claim the education credit correctly. This is definitely something worth looking into!
22 Has anyone here used both TurboTax and H&R Block? Which one is better for someone with multiple W-2s like OP? I'm in a similar situation but this is my first time filing on my own.
19 I've used both. For multiple W-2s they're pretty similar, but I found TurboTax's interface a bit more intuitive. Both will double-check that you've entered everything correctly. TurboTax has this W-2 import feature that can sometimes pull your info directly which saves time and reduces errors. H&R Block is usually a bit cheaper though. If price is important, go with H&R Block. If ease of use matters more, TurboTax might be better. Both will get you an accurate refund if you enter your info correctly.
Just a heads up that while rounding is normal, you should make sure FreeTaxUSA is handling your interest and dividend income correctly. I found that sometimes it doesn't import everything properly from certain financial institutions.
Thanks for bringing that up! I actually have some dividend income from a few stocks. Should I be double-checking specific forms or sections after FreeTaxUSA imports them?
You should definitely review the Schedule B if you have dividend and interest income. FreeTaxUSA sometimes misses smaller financial institutions or categorizes things incorrectly during imports. I particularly recommend double-checking that all your 1099-DIV and 1099-INT forms are fully accounted for. Sometimes qualified dividends might not get properly categorized, which can affect your tax rate. Also, if you have foreign dividends, make sure the foreign tax paid is correctly entered so you can claim the foreign tax credit.
FreeTaxUSA was a lifesaver for me this year when I had to deal with crypto taxes! Anyone else use it for that? The rounding wasn't an issue at all.
Javier Torres
Have you considered filing Form 1116 to claim your FTCs and Form 8606 for a non-deductible traditional IRA contribution, then converting to Roth later (backdoor Roth)? This might solve your Roth contribution concern without giving up your standard deduction.
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Zainab Ali
ā¢I hadn't thought about the backdoor Roth approach. Would that still work if my tax liability is already zero? And would I still need to worry about the documentation of foreign expenses if I go that route?
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Javier Torres
ā¢The backdoor Roth works regardless of your tax liability because you're making non-deductible contributions to a traditional IRA first, which doesn't require you to have tax liability. You'd report these non-deductible contributions on Form 8606. No need to worry about foreign expense documentation for this approach. You can take the full standard deduction, apply your FTCs to reduce your tax to zero (carrying forward any excess), and still do the backdoor Roth. The only documentation you need is for the FTCs themselves (foreign tax statements or equivalent), not itemized expenses.
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Emma Wilson
Anyone know if excess FTCs can be carried backward? I'm in a similar situation but wondering if I could amend last year's return instead of carrying forward.
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QuantumLeap
ā¢FTCs can only be carried forward, not backward. You can carry them forward for up to 10 years, but you can't apply them to prior year returns unfortunately.
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