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I'm dealing with almost the exact same situation right now in California - separated for 4 years but not divorced, and my ex is completely ignoring my requests for tax information. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful! I'm going to follow the advice about documenting my attempts to contact him and filing Form 8958 with just my information, noting that he refused to cooperate. It's such a relief to hear from people like Ryder and Dylan who actually went through this process successfully. One question for anyone who's been through this - did you file an extension first to buy more time, or did you just go ahead and file by the regular deadline with the incomplete information? I'm torn between trying to get more time versus just getting it done and filed properly with what I have. Also, has anyone had experience with this situation affecting future tax years? Like, does the IRS flag your account or anything once you've filed this way? I'm worried about creating problems for myself down the road, but it sounds like most people had smooth experiences. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences - this community is amazing for helping people navigate these complicated situations!
I just went through this exact situation last year in Arizona! I chose to file by the regular deadline rather than requesting an extension because I figured there was no point in delaying when I already had all the information I was going to get. Plus, extensions only give you more time to file the paperwork - any taxes you owe are still due by the original deadline anyway. Regarding future tax years, I haven't had any issues at all. The IRS didn't flag my account or anything like that. I filed the same way again this year (still waiting on the divorce to be finalized) and it went through just as smoothly as last year. The key really is that documentation everyone mentioned - keep those screenshots of your attempts to contact your ex. I kept a simple spreadsheet with dates, contact method, and response (or lack thereof). Never needed to provide it, but having that organized record gave me confidence I was doing everything right. You're absolutely making the right choice to move forward with what you have. Don't let an uncooperative ex stress you out or make you miss deadlines!
I've been following this thread closely as someone who went through a very similar situation in Texas about two years ago. What really struck me was how much stress and anxiety this whole process caused me initially, but looking back, it was much more straightforward than I feared. Like many of you mentioned, I documented every attempt to contact my ex - texts, emails, even a certified letter that went unclaimed. When I finally filed Form 8958, I wrote "spouse refused to provide information despite multiple requests" in the sections requiring their data and attached a brief summary of my contact attempts. The IRS processed my return without any issues, and I haven't had problems in subsequent years either. What I learned is that the IRS is much more understanding about these situations than I expected - they deal with uncooperative spouses regularly, especially in community property states. One practical tip: I used TurboTax and was initially frustrated because the software kept prompting me for the missing spouse information. I ended up calling their support line, and they walked me through how to properly note the uncooperative spouse situation in their system. Most tax software has provisions for this scenario once you know how to access them. For anyone still feeling anxious about this approach, remember that you're taking reasonable steps to comply with tax law. The IRS isn't going to penalize you for your ex's lack of cooperation when you've made good faith efforts to get the required information.
This is such valuable insight, especially about the TurboTax support! I'm using TurboTax this year and was getting so frustrated with those constant prompts for my ex's information. I didn't realize they had specific workflows for uncooperative spouse situations - I'll definitely call their support line. Your point about the IRS being understanding really resonates with me. I think we build up so much anxiety about tax issues, but you're right that they deal with these situations all the time. It's reassuring to hear from someone who went through this in Texas specifically, since that's where I am too. Did you end up having to pay any penalties or interest, or did filing with the documented attempts to contact your ex protect you from that? I'm mostly worried about unexpected fees popping up later.
I'm so sorry for your loss, Emily. I went through this exact situation when my father passed away earlier this year, and I completely understand the frustration with the SSA's systems. One thing that worked for me was calling the SSA at exactly 8:00 AM when their phone lines open. The wait time was much shorter (about 20 minutes instead of hours), and I was able to speak with a representative who specialized in deceased beneficiary cases. When you call, make sure you have these documents ready: your father's Social Security number, his date of death, your identification showing you're the executor, and the death certificate number (you don't need to mail it, just have the information available). The representative was able to verify everything over the phone and expedite the 1099-SSA to my address. Also, don't forget that if your father received Social Security benefits and had federal taxes withheld, you might also need Form 1042-S if he was receiving benefits while living abroad previously, or if there were any special withholding situations. The whole process took about 7 business days once I got through to the right person. Hang in there - I know it's overwhelming to deal with government agencies while grieving, but you'll get through this.
Thank you so much for the specific timing advice about calling at 8:00 AM - that 20 minute wait time sounds like a dream compared to the hours I've been spending on hold! I'm definitely going to try that approach this week. Your point about having all the document information ready rather than needing to mail copies is really helpful. I was wondering whether they'd actually need physical copies of everything or just the details for verification. I hadn't thought about Form 1042-S - my father did live in Canada for a few years before moving back, so there might have been some special withholding situations I'm not aware of. That's definitely something I should ask about when I finally get through to someone. The 7-day timeline you mentioned gives me hope that this might actually get resolved soon once I connect with the right specialist. Thanks for sharing your experience and for the encouragement - it really means a lot to hear from someone who successfully navigated this process.
I'm really sorry for your loss, Emily. I just went through this same situation with my mother's estate a few months ago, and I know how frustrating and overwhelming it can be. One approach that worked well for me was calling the SSA's main number (1-800-772-1213) first thing in the morning around 8:05 AM and asking to speak with someone in "deceased beneficiary services." The wait time was significantly shorter than calling later in the day - about 25 minutes instead of the 2+ hours I experienced when calling in the afternoon. When you do get through, have everything organized: your father's full SSN, his exact date of death, your identification as executor, and the death certificate details. The specialist I spoke with was able to process my request over the phone and mail the 1099-SSA within about 10 business days. Also, if you're worried about missing tax deadlines while sorting this out, remember you can file Form 4868 for an automatic 6-month extension on his final return. This takes a lot of pressure off and gives you time to get all the documents properly. One last tip - if the SSA rep mentions anything about benefit overpayments or discrepancies, ask them to flag it in your case file. Sometimes there are complications that don't show up until you're actually filing the return, and having it noted ahead of time can save you calls later. Hang in there - this process is exhausting but you will get through it. The hardest part is just getting connected to someone who understands these estate situations.
your friend is buggin if he thinks this will work lmaoo. my cousin tried sum similar claiming his gf brother who was locked up. he got the money initially but then boom 6 months later irs sent a letter saying he was getting audited. had to pay everything back plus like $1500 in penalties. tell your boy not to mess with the irs man they don't play around!!
Did your cousin face any other consequences besides paying back the money and penalties? That's exactly what I'm worried about - my coworker getting in serious trouble beyond just financial issues.
nah he just had to pay back everything plus the penalty. but he was lucky cause they decided it was a "mistake" not deliberate fraud. if they think your friend is intentionally lying that could be way worse. i heard they can pursue criminal charges for tax fraud but usually only for really big money or repeat offenders. still wouldn't risk it tho. irs has gotten way more aggressive with audits lately and they definitely check dependent claims extra careful. plus the stress of dealing with them for months ain't worth any refund.
Your coworker is absolutely setting himself up for disaster. I've seen this exact scenario play out multiple times, and it never ends well. The IRS has sophisticated cross-referencing systems that will catch this - they receive data from correctional facilities and will flag returns claiming incarcerated individuals as dependents. Even if the refund gets processed initially (which sometimes happens), the IRS will eventually audit and demand repayment with penalties and interest. The "support test" is crystal clear - when someone is incarcerated, the government (not your friend) is providing their housing, food, medical care, and other basic needs. There's no way your coworker can legitimately claim he's providing more than half of this person's support. The fact that H&R Block's software shows a refund means nothing - tax software only processes the information entered, it can't verify if that information is truthful. Your friend is essentially committing tax fraud, and the IRS takes this very seriously. The $4,000 refund isn't worth the audit, penalties, potential criminal charges, and years of dealing with the IRS. Show him these responses and maybe he'll reconsider before he ruins his financial future over what amounts to theft from the government.
This is really helpful context. I'm wondering though - how quickly does the IRS usually catch these types of fraudulent dependent claims? Like, would my coworker potentially get the refund first and then face consequences later, or do their systems flag it before any money gets sent out? I'm trying to understand the timeline so I can explain to him exactly what he's risking and when the trouble would start.
Has anyone used the actual Publication 15-T to verify this? I downloaded it and tried to follow along but the tables are confusing af. There's like 10 different methods depending on if your W-4 is old or new and what payroll system your employer uses.
I went down this rabbit hole last month! Page 25-29 of Pub 15-T has the tables for the old withholding system. If you're paid semi-monthly, your employer is probably using either the percentage method or the wage bracket method. For percentage method: They take your gross, subtract pre-tax deductions and a value for each allowance (around $4,350 annually per allowance, divided by pay periods), then calculate the tax using the tables on page 26. Wage bracket method is even more confusing because they use those giant look-up tables where you find your income range and allowances, then read the withholding amount directly.
I had the exact same issue with my semi-monthly paycheck calculations! What finally helped me was realizing that the IRS withholding system uses different formulas than just applying tax brackets directly to your income. The key thing you're missing is that withholding tables already account for the standard deduction and use annualized calculations that are then divided by your pay frequency. Your employer isn't just taking your pay period income and applying tax brackets - they're estimating what your annual tax liability will be and spreading it across all pay periods. Also, since you mentioned having an old W-4 with allowances, your employer is using a conversion method that doesn't work the way you calculated. Each allowance doesn't simply reduce your taxable income by a fixed dollar amount per pay period like it used to. I'd recommend either using the IRS Withholding Estimator online or filling out a new W-4 form. The new system is actually much more straightforward and gives you better control over your withholding amounts. You can even specify exact additional dollar amounts to be withheld if you want to fine-tune it.
CosmicCommander
Does anyone know if scholarship money affects the 1098-T reporting? I had a partial scholarship for my last semester before graduating and I'm confused about how that impacts potential tax credits.
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Ava Garcia
ā¢Your 1098-T will show both your qualified education expenses (in Box 1) and any scholarships/grants received (in Box 5). For tax credit purposes, you need to subtract your scholarships from your qualified expenses to determine your eligible amount for credits. For example, if your tuition was $8,000 (Box 1) and you received $3,000 in scholarships (Box 5), you would only be able to claim education credits based on the remaining $5,000. Just be aware that if your scholarships exceeded your qualified expenses, you might have to report the excess as taxable income.
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Aria Khan
Great question! I was in a similar situation when I graduated in 2023. Yes, you'll definitely receive your 1098-T for 2024 since you paid tuition during that tax year. One thing I wish someone had told me - make sure to keep all your payment receipts and compare them to what's on the 1098-T when you get it. Also, since this is your first time filing after graduation, you might want to check if you're still being claimed as a dependent by your parents. If they're claiming you, they would be the ones eligible for the education credits, not you. If you're filing independently now, those education credits could be really valuable - the American Opportunity Credit can be worth up to $2,500. Don't leave money on the table!
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Mei Chen
ā¢This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in the exact same boat - graduated last spring and this will be my first time filing taxes independently. Quick question though - how do I know for sure if my parents are still claiming me as a dependent? We haven't really talked about it and I don't want to accidentally file incorrectly or mess up their taxes. Is there a way to check this before I file, or should I just ask them directly? I definitely don't want to miss out on those education credits if I'm eligible for them!
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