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I'm a retail trader who does about 500-1000 trades per year, and I've never paid per-transaction fees. That's absolutely ridiculous. I use FreeTaxUSA and just import my CSV files from my brokers. Total cost? $15 for the software. Even if you don't want to DIY, most CPAs I've talked to charge a flat $100-200 additional fee for Schedule D reporting, regardless of transaction count. Your preparer is trying to make a killing off you because they think you don't know better. For 2020 specifically, those COVID credits are pretty valuable, so definitely file, but find someone charging a reasonable rate!
Did you have to do anything special with FreeTaxUSA for options trades specifically? I've heard they're treated differently than regular stock transactions for tax purposes and want to make sure I'm doing it right.
For options in FreeTaxUSA, you just need to make sure your import file correctly identifies them as options contracts with the right expiration dates and strike prices. The software handles the different tax treatment automatically. One thing to watch for is that some brokers (especially Robinhood back in 2020) sometimes didn't properly classify certain spreads or multi-leg option strategies in their export files. If you did any complex options strategies, you might need to double-check those specific entries, but for simple buys and sells it works perfectly without any special steps.
Dealt with this exact issue for my 2020 filing. I found a middle ground by asking my CPA to just charge me their hourly rate instead of per transaction. Ended up paying around $400 total for a return with 300+ trades since I had everything organized from my brokers already. Maybe ask your preparer if they'd consider an hourly rate alternative? If they refuse, that's a red flag that they're just trying to milk you for cash.
Another option you should look into is the "qualified principal residence indebtedness" exclusion if this was related to your primary home, or the "qualified farm indebtedness" exclusion if it was farm-related debt. Different exclusions apply in different situations, and it's important to use the right one on Form 982. Also, make sure that the 1099-C is legitimate. Sometimes debt collectors send these forms for debts that are past the statute of limitations, which can be problematic. If the debt is really 11-12 years old, you might want to verify that the 1099-C was properly issued.
Thanks for mentioning this, but my 1099-C is definitely for an old credit card debt, not a home mortgage or farm debt. It was from a major bank that I definitely had an account with back then, so I think it's legitimate. The weird thing is why they waited so many years to cancel it and send the 1099-C. Is there a time limit on when they can issue these forms? The debt was from around 2012, but they just cancelled it in 2023.
There's actually no time limit on when creditors can issue a 1099-C after cancelling a debt. They're required to issue it for the tax year in which they actually cancel the debt, regardless of how old the original debt was. In your case, even though the debt originated in 2012, if the creditor officially cancelled it in 2023, then that's when the taxable event occurred. This is fairly common with old debts that have been sitting in collections for years. The good news is that insolvency is still an option regardless of how old the original debt was. Focus on your financial situation at the time of cancellation (2023) when determining if you qualify for the insolvency exclusion.
one thing nobody mentioned yet is that if u qualify as insolvent, u need to reduce certain tax attributes like NOL, credit carryovers etc. on that form 982. its in part 2 of the form. most ppl dont have these but if u do its important. also dont forget to actually attatch form 982 to your return! if ur e-filing the software should do this for u but double check.
That's a great point. Most people filing basic returns won't have these tax attributes, but it's an important consideration if you have a more complex tax situation. Also worth noting that if you're using free tax filing software, some of them don't support Form 982. You might need to upgrade to a paid version to properly handle the insolvency exclusion.
In my experience, reading the actual instructions for the specific form often helps. The IRS website has detailed explanations for each form, including 1099-R. Go to irs.gov, search for "1099-R instructions" and you'll find a complete guide to all those codes and calculations. The instructions explain each box and code in detail. Box 7 specifically shows the type of distribution, which determines how it's taxed. I found it super helpful when I had a distribution from my old employer's 401k.
I tried reading the instructions but that's actually what confused me more! They use so many technical terms that reference other technical terms. I felt like I was going in circles. Do you have any suggestions for making sense of all the cross-references in the instructions?
I totally get that feeling! The cross-references can make you feel like you're chasing your tail through an endless maze of tax jargon. What helped me was starting with the glossary section in Publication 17 (the main IRS tax guide) to understand the basic terminology first before diving into specific form instructions. Another approach that helped me was focusing only on the sections relevant to my specific situation and ignoring everything else. For distribution codes, the 1099-R instructions have a table that explains each code - print just that page and highlight only your specific code to avoid getting overwhelmed by all the other possibilities.
This might sound obvious but have you tried calling whoever issued the form to you? When I got a confusing 1099-R from my old employer's retirement plan, I called their benefits department and they explained exactly what the form meant and how the distribution was calculated. They deal with these questions all the time.
Something nobody has mentioned yet - there are ways to potentially reduce your NIIT liability through tax planning. We shifted some of our investments to tax-advantaged accounts like Roth IRAs which don't generate income that counts toward NIIT. You might also look into tax-loss harvesting or municipal bonds which generate tax-exempt interest.
Would investing in growth stocks that don't pay dividends help reduce the NIIT? Since they don't generate current income until you sell?
Yes, that's a good strategy. Growth stocks that don't pay dividends won't generate current investment income subject to NIIT. You'll only potentially face NIIT when you sell and realize capital gains. Investments that generate unrealized appreciation rather than current income can be an effective way to defer the NIIT. Just remember that the eventual sale will potentially trigger both capital gains tax and NIIT if your income is above the threshold in the year you sell.
Does anyone know if 401k withdrawals count as income that pushes you over the NIIT threshold? Not investment income itself but the income that determines if you're over $275k?
Yes, distributions from retirement accounts like 401ks and traditional IRAs count toward your MAGI, which is used to determine if you're over the threshold. They're not considered investment income subject to NIIT themselves, but they can push your other investment income into NIIT territory by raising your MAGI.
Jessica Nolan
Has anyone tried TaxSlayer? I hear it's cheaper than TurboTax but not sure if it's any better interface-wise.
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SebastiΓ‘n Stevens
β’TaxSlayer is ok but I found it confusing for itemized deductions. Kept getting different numbers than I expected and couldn't figure out why.
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Jessica Nolan
β’Thanks for the info! I'll probably try FreeTaxUSA based on all the recommendations here. The dated interface doesn't bother me as much as TurboTax's constant upselling. I appreciate the heads-up about the itemized deduction issues. I don't itemize anymore with the higher standard deduction, so hopefully that won't be a problem for me.
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Bethany Groves
I switched to H&R Block Online last year from TurboTax and found it much more straightforward! It lets you jump directly to forms and has less upselling. Might be worth checking out too.
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Sophie Footman
β’How much did you end up paying for H&R Block compared to TurboTax? And did you find it easier to navigate? My main frustration is just wanting to directly enter my forms without going through their "life changes" questionnaire every time.
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Bethany Groves
β’I paid about $70 for H&R Block's Deluxe version compared to $120 I was paying for TurboTax. It was definitely easier to navigate - they have a "forms mode" that lets you go directly to specific forms without going through all the interview questions first. You can still use the interview mode if you want guidance, but it's completely optional. The interface feels less cluttered too, and I didn't get constant popups trying to upgrade me to more expensive versions.
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