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5 One thing to check is if the creditor sold your debt to a collection agency at some point. When that happens, the original creditor might issue a 1099-C even though you eventually paid off the debt to the collection agency. It's a common disconnect in their systems.
1 That makes a lot of sense actually. I did get some collection calls before I paid it off. So if that's what happened, what should I do? Contact the original creditor?
5 Yes, contact the original creditor first. Ask them specifically if they sold your debt and then issued the 1099-C. Request documentation showing when they sold it and to whom. Then contact the collection agency and get proof that you paid them in full. You'll need both documents to show that you didn't actually have canceled debt - the debt was transferred, not forgiven. Submit a dispute to the creditor that issued the 1099-C and ask them to issue a corrected form. Keep copies of all communications and payment receipts in case you need to explain this situation to the IRS.
8 Has anyone used TurboTax to handle a 1099-C situation? I got one too and have no idea where to even report this in the software.
11 TurboTax has a specific section for 1099-C under "Income" and then "Less Common Income." It'll ask for all the information from the form and help determine if any exclusions apply. Just make sure you have the actual 1099-C in front of you when you get to that section.
Something else to consider - if you're close to the QBI income thresholds ($340,100 for MFJ in 2025), including or excluding certain activities can impact whether you face the limitations based on W-2 wages or qualified property. In some cases, it might actually be beneficial to include losses to bring your total QBI under the threshold. Tax planning for QBI isn't always intuitive!
Good point! Our AGI is actually around $325,000 so we're approaching that threshold. Does that change your recommendation on whether we should include the rental losses in QBI or not?
Since you're still below the threshold (but approaching it), you still likely benefit from excluding the rental losses from QBI. At your income level, you can take the full 20% deduction on positive QBI without the wage/property limitations. If including rental losses would reduce your positive QBI from your wife's self-employment, then excluding them makes perfect sense. However, if your income rises above the threshold in future years, the calculation becomes more complex, and including some loss activities might occasionally be beneficial to stay under the phase-out limits.
Has anyone tried using the QBI worksheets in different tax software? I tried both H&R Block and TurboTax and got different results for the exact same scenario with my rentals.
Something that hasn't been mentioned here - when you file your amended returns, be prepared for them to take FOREVER to process. I filed an amended return last year and it took almost 8 months to get processed. Just make sure you pay any additional tax you calculate you'll owe when you submit the amendment to avoid penalties and interest continuing to accumulate.
8 MONTHS?? Ugh that's so much worse than I thought. Do you know if there's any way to check the status of an amended return after you submit it?
You can check the status of your amended return using the "Where's My Amended Return" tool on the IRS website. You'll need your SSN, date of birth, and zip code. The tool will tell you if it's been received, adjusted, or completed. But honestly don't expect updates very often - mine sat on "received" for about 6 months before changing to "adjusted". The key thing is to pay whatever additional tax you calculate when you submit the amendment. That way even if it takes forever to process, you won't be racking up additional penalties and interest.
Just want to add - if filing these amendments is going to result in you owing a substantial amount that you can't pay all at once, you can set up a payment plan with the IRS. I had to do this last year and it was actually pretty easy to set up online.
The most tax-efficient way is usually a small salary just above the NI threshold (around £9,500) and then dividends for the rest. That way you get your personal allowance but don't pay much NI, and dividends are taxed more favorably than salary. But you CANNOT just use company money for personal stuff - that's basically stealing from the company (even if you own it).
What about directors loan accounts? I've heard you can borrow from your company?
Yes, director's loan accounts are an option, but they come with strict rules. You can borrow from your company, but if the loan exceeds £10,000, it's considered a benefit in kind and you'll pay income tax on it. Additionally, if the loan isn't repaid within 9 months after your company's year-end, the company will have to pay a temporary tax (currently 33.75%) on the outstanding amount. When the loan is eventually repaid, the tax can be reclaimed, but it creates cashflow issues. Also, if you repeatedly take out loans and repay them (bed and breakfasting), HMRC has anti-avoidance rules that will catch this. Director's loans are legitimate but not a good long-term strategy for extracting value compared to the salary+dividend approach.
Yes! My brother-in-law tried something similar with his plumbing business. HMRC did a routine VAT inspection which led to them looking deeper at his accounts. They found personal expenses being paid directly from the business account and hit him with additional income tax, NI contributions, penalties AND interest going back 4 years. Cost him over £30k in total and now he's on their high-risk list for future audits.
Cassandra Moon
Just wanted to add something important - if you're owed a refund for 2023, there's actually no penalty for filing late! The IRS doesn't penalize you for filing late if they owe YOU money. You have 3 years from the original due date to claim a refund. But if you do owe taxes like you mentioned, then yes, there are penalties and interest. Still, it's WAY better to file late than never. The IRS is generally pretty reasonable with people who come forward voluntarily vs. those they have to chase down.
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Sophia Bennett
ā¢Thanks for mentioning this! Unfortunately I'm pretty certain I owe them money since I had some 1099 income without any withholding. But that's good info to know for the future. Do you know if most tax preparers handle late returns like this or should I look for someone who specializes in them?
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Cassandra Moon
ā¢Most regular tax preparers can definitely handle late returns - it's pretty common and not as complicated as you might think. You don't need a specialized tax attorney or anything unless you have a really complex situation or owe an enormous amount. Any decent tax preparer or even the major tax software packages can guide you through filing a late return. They'll help calculate the penalties and interest too. If your situation is relatively straightforward (W2 income, maybe some 1099 work), you could even do it yourself with good tax software.
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Zane Hernandez
Don't panic! I went through this exact thing for my 2020 taxes. Depression is real and the IRS actually does understand that life happens. Quick tip - if you're worried about penalties, look into what's called "first-time penalty abatement" if you have a clean compliance history (meaning you filed and paid on time for the past 3 years before 2023). The IRS often waives penalties for your first offense if you call and explain your situation.
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Genevieve Cavalier
ā¢This is great advice! I got first-time abatement when I missed filing during my mom's cancer treatment. Saved me over $1,100 in penalties. The IRS agent was surprisingly understanding when I explained what happened.
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