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anyone else confused why OP is stressing about doctor taxes when they haven't even finished high school yet? lol you got like 12+ years before this is even relevant. 4 years college + 4 years med school + 4-7 years residency/fellowship before you make "real doctor money" tax code will change like 6 times before then anyway. focus on getting good grades first buddy π
Harsh but true. Plus by the time you're making attending physician salary, you'll also have around $300k in student loans to pay off. Your concern shouldn't be the tax bracket but how to manage that debt efficiently.
Something nobody's mentioned yet - doctors have lots of tax deductions most people don't get! My wife's a pulmonologist and she deducts: - Medical malpractice insurance - Continuing education costs - Medical journal subscriptions - Home office expenses - Professional association dues - Licensing fees Plus if you work at multiple hospitals you can deduct mileage between them. All this can easily save you $15-20k in taxes annually! Don't focus just on tax brackets - the deductions matter a ton for professionals.
Another option you might consider is going to a local Taxpayer Assistance Center. You need to make an appointment, but they can pull up your records and help you figure out what you need to file. I did this last year for my 2020 return and the person I spoke with was surprisingly helpful. For the appointment, call 844-545-5640. They book up fast though, so call early in the morning.
Do they charge for this service? I'm already going to be paying a lot in back taxes so trying to save wherever I can.
The Taxpayer Assistance Centers are completely free - they're run by the IRS. No charge at all for the service. They won't prepare your return for you, but they can answer questions, help you access your tax records, and point you toward free filing options.
You might qualify for the IRS Fresh Start program if this is your first time having tax troubles. I was in a similar situation with unfiled returns from the pandemic years and ended up qualifying for penalty abatement, which saved me over $1,000.
Fresh Start isn't really a program, it's just a collection of different relief options. But you're right about first-time penalty abatement! That's what helped me with my late 2020 return. You just have to call and ask for it specifically.
Has anyone actually had experience selling ISO shares years after exercising them? I'm wondering how the IRS matches up the original exercise info with the eventual sale. Do they actually cross-reference your old Form 3921 when you report capital gains years later?
I sold some ISO shares last year that I had exercised 3 years prior. The broker reported the sale on Form 1099-B but only included the exercise price as my basis, not any AMT adjustments I had previously paid. I had to manually adjust my basis on Schedule D to avoid double taxation. The IRS never questioned it, but I kept meticulous records including my original Form 3921 and the tax return where I reported the AMT adjustment. My understanding is that the IRS systems don't automatically cross-reference your old 3921, so good record-keeping is essential.
One more thing to consider - even if FreeTaxUSA doesn't have a specific form for 3921, you could use the "Additional Information" or miscellaneous income sections to at least note that you received the form and exercised ISOs below the AMT threshold. That way there's at least some record in your tax return if you ever get questioned.
That's a smart idea I hadn't thought about. Would I just put it in as an informational note or is there a specific way you'd recommend documenting it?
Most tax software has a section for notes or additional information you want the IRS to see. I'd simply list "Received Form 3921 for ISO exercise - below AMT threshold" and include the company name, number of shares, exercise date, and FMV. If there's a miscellaneous forms section, you could also add a brief statement there. The key is to acknowledge you received the form while making it clear there's no tax impact for this year. This creates a paper trail showing you weren't trying to hide anything.
Instead of trying to deduct the wedding (which is risky), here's a legit alternative: If your niece or her fiancΓ© work for your business, you could give them a bonus (which is taxable to them but deductible for your business). Just make sure they actually do work that justifies the bonus. Keep documentation like you would for any other employee bonus.
Couldn't this still trigger an audit though? Especially if the bonus happens right before the wedding?
You're right to be concerned about timing. Any bonus right before the wedding could appear suspicious if audited. The key is making sure it's reasonable compensation for actual work performed. If they're legitimate employees with a history of employment, and the bonus is in line with what you'd pay other employees for similar contributions, you're on safer ground. Documentation is crucial here - performance reviews, bonus criteria, and a consistent bonus program for all employees would help substantiate the business purpose. But if they've never worked for you before and suddenly get a "job" with a big bonus right before their wedding, that's pretty much asking for trouble.
Has anyone used TurboTax to figure out stuff like this? Their business version has a deduction finder that might help clarify what's allowed.
TurboTax is okay but I've found it doesn't catch some of these nuanced situations. It'll let you enter whatever and won't necessarily flag potential issues. I learned this the hard way last year.
Aurora Lacasse
My two cents on your withholding situation: the IRS doesn't care if your employer didn't take out enough federal tax. That's between you and your employer. The IRS just wants their money one way or another. Go ahead and file your taxes accurately based on what's on your W-2. If you owe, you owe. The most important thing is to file on time even if you can't pay right away - the penalty for not filing is WAY worse than the penalty for not paying. If you can't pay in full, apply for a payment plan with the IRS. They're actually pretty reasonable about this stuff as long as you're proactive and honest.
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Anthony Young
β’Do you know if there's a minimum amount you need to owe before you can get on a payment plan? I might owe around $800 and am worried I'll have to pay it all at once.
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Aurora Lacasse
β’You can get on a payment plan for any amount you owe, but the process is different depending on how much. If you owe less than $50,000, you can apply online through the IRS website using their Online Payment Agreement tool. For around $800, you could qualify for what they call a short-term payment plan (120 days or less) with no setup fee. If you need longer, they have long-term plans too, but those have setup fees. Interest and penalties continue to accrue until you pay in full, but they're relatively low compared to credit card interest. Just make sure you apply as soon as you file your return!
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Charlotte White
One thing nobody has mentioned - check your W-2 box 2 (Federal income tax withheld) against your paystubs! I had a situation where my W-2 showed like half the federal tax that was actually withheld from my checks. Added everything up and realized my employer made a mistake on the W-2 itself. Your employer can issue a corrected W-2 (called a W-2c) if there's a legitimate error. Don't file with incorrect info if the W-2 itself is wrong!
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Admin_Masters
β’This is actually great advice. I've seen this happen more often than people realize, especially with smaller employers who might have less sophisticated payroll systems. Always good to double-check by adding up all your paystubs!
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