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22 Just adding another perspective here - I'm a bookkeeper for a small business and we accidentally did this exact thing last year. The tax software we were using had a weird glitch that didn't populate boxes 3 and 5 for certain employees. If your employer uses QuickBooks or similar software, this could be what happened.
9 Would employees still have the correct amounts withheld from their paychecks in this situation? Or would the withholding also be messed up?
22 Yes, the withholding in the paychecks would typically still be correct. The issue was just in how the W-2 forms were generated at the end of the year. The software calculated and withheld the proper amounts throughout the year, but had a bug when transferring that data to the actual W-2 form. In our case, employees had the right amounts withheld for Social Security and Medicare from each paycheck, but those totals didn't show up in boxes 3 and 5 on some W-2s. We had to issue corrected W-2c forms once we discovered the problem.
3 Has anyone ever just put the box, number 1 amount into boxes 3 and 5 when filing? I had a similar issue couple years ago and that's what my tax guy told me to do since that's typically what those boxes should match anyway. I didn't get audited or anything.
6 That sounds risky. Wouldn't you have to file an amended return if your employer sends a corrected W-2 later?
Just wanted to add - don't forget about state implications. Section 179 is federal, but some states don't conform with federal bonus depreciation rules. I got hit with this last year when I bought a heavy SUV for my rental business in California but live in Texas. Make sure you're looking at both federal AND state tax impacts, especially with properties in different states.
That's a great point I hadn't considered! Do you know which states typically don't conform with the federal rules? I have properties in Arizona and Florida besides my home state.
California is the big one that doesn't fully conform to federal bonus depreciation. Florida fully conforms to federal rules, which is good news for you. Arizona partially conforms but has some modifications - they spread the bonus depreciation over 5 years instead of taking it all upfront like the federal. For your situation with Arizona properties, you might not get the full depreciation benefit on your state return that you'd get on your federal return. This makes proper state tax planning really important when you have multiple properties across different states. I learned this the hard way and ended up with an unexpected state tax bill.
Everybody's talking about Section 179, but have you considered a 1031 exchange instead of paying those capital gains? I know you said it's part of a divorce situation which might complicate things, but did you already complete the sale or is it still in process?
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - if your massage therapy is directly related to your freelance work (like preventing repetitive strain injury that would prevent you from working), you might be able to deduct it as a business expense on Schedule C instead of as a medical expense. This can be better because business expenses directly reduce your self-employment income. But be careful - the IRS scrutinizes these kinds of deductions. You'd need to show it's ordinary and necessary for your specific profession and not just personal medical care. What type of freelance work do you do?
I'm a graphic designer, so I spend 8+ hours a day at the computer. My thoracic outlet syndrome definitely flares up from all the computer work - that's actually how I developed it. The massage therapy helps me continue working without severe pain. Do you think that would qualify as a business expense? That would be amazing if so!
Yes, that situation has a much stronger case for being a legitimate business expense! Since your condition is directly aggravated by your work activities (extended computer use for graphic design) and the massage therapy allows you to continue working, you can make a strong argument for it being "ordinary and necessary" for your business. Keep detailed records showing the connection between your work and the need for treatment. Have your doctor document that the massage therapy is specifically treating a condition caused or worsened by your work activities. This documentation is crucial if you're ever audited. Also track how the treatment directly enables you to continue your business activities. This approach could save you significantly more than the medical expense deduction route since it directly reduces your self-employment income and tax.
Don't forget to look into the FSA (Flexible Spending Account) or HSA (Health Savings Account) options through your part-time job's health insurance! Both can be used for qualified medical expenses including massage therapy with a doctor's note, mental health services, and prescription costs. The big advantage is these are pre-tax contributions, which means you're essentially getting a discount equal to your tax rate on all your medical expenses. Much simpler than trying to reach the 7.5% AGI threshold for itemized deductions.
Quick tip: If you're worried about this happening again next year, you can use IRS Direct Pay on the IRS website instead of the payment option in your tax software. I've found it processes MUCH faster (usually 1-2 days) and you get an immediate confirmation number from the IRS themselves. I've used it for the past three years and never had any issues with delayed processing. You can schedule the payment for any date up to the deadline. Just make sure you print or save the confirmation page for your records!
Do you know if Direct Pay works for quarterly estimated tax payments too? I'm self-employed and always forget to mail those vouchers on time.
Yes, Direct Pay works great for quarterly estimated tax payments! That's actually how I use it most often since I'm partially self-employed. You just select "Estimated Payment" as the payment type instead of "Tax Return." It's super convenient because you can schedule all four quarterly payments at once at the beginning of the year (or any time before each due date). The system will send you email reminders before each payment processes, and you can cancel or modify the payment up to two business days before the scheduled date if your situation changes.
One important thing no one has mentioned yet - TAKE A SCREENSHOT of your payment confirmation page from your tax software! I learned this the hard way. Last year I had a similar situation where my payment didn't process until after the deadline. The IRS initially sent me a late payment notice with penalties. I was able to get it resolved because I had saved the confirmation showing I had authorized the payment before the deadline, but it took several phone calls and a formal appeal. Don't just assume everything will work smoothly behind the scenes. Save every confirmation page, record confirmation numbers, and take screenshots showing the date you authorized the payment. Trust me, having that documentation ready will save you major headaches if anything goes wrong!
Thank you so much for this advice! I actually did take screenshots of my payment confirmation page from TurboTax showing the date I authorized the payment and the account info. I'll make sure to keep those safe. Did the IRS eventually remove the penalties in your case without much trouble once you showed them the proof?
Yes, they did remove all penalties once I provided the documentation, but it wasn't exactly a smooth process. I had to call multiple times and got different answers from different agents. Eventually I had to send a formal written appeal with copies of my screenshots and payment confirmation. About three weeks after submitting that, I received a letter confirming the penalties were removed. The key was having that screenshot showing the exact date and time I authorized the payment. Without that specific evidence, I think they would have kept the penalties in place. So you're already ahead of the game by having those screenshots - just keep them somewhere safe for at least three years!
Ashley Simian
Has anyone used TurboTax for handling this kind of situation? I've got a similar issue with my rental property insurance but I'm not sure how to enter it correctly in the software.
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Oliver Cheng
ā¢I use TurboTax for my rental properties. When you get to the Schedule E section, there's a field specifically for insurance. What I do is calculate the prorated amount for the tax year (like others have suggested) and enter just that amount. Then I keep a separate spreadsheet tracking my prepaid expenses so I know what to enter next year. The software doesn't have a specific way to track prepaid expenses across tax years, so you have to do that part yourself. In your case, you'd enter $1,385 for 2022 (the $990 + $395 calculation).
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Taylor To
Just a heads up that if you're ever audited, the IRS will want to see that you're handling prepaid expenses consistently year to year. Whatever method you choose, stick with it! Switching between methods without good reason is a red flag. I learned this from personal experience - had a rental property audit a few years back and they specifically looked at how I handled my insurance payments. They were fine with prorating but said I needed to be consistent with my approach.
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