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I switched from TurboTax to an accountant three years ago and never looked back. Yes, it's more expensive ($375 vs the $120 I paid for TurboTax), but my accountant finds deductions I didn't know existed. She's saved me at least $1500 each year. Just make sure you find someone with good reviews who specializes in your situation (self-employed, rental properties, whatever applies to you).

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Do you meet with your accountant in person? And how early do you need to book them? I heard good accountants get fully booked way before April.

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I started with in-person meetings but now we do everything electronically. I send her my documents through her secure portal, and we have a video call to discuss anything unusual about my tax situation that year. You're absolutely right about booking early. I contact her in January to get on her schedule, and even then she's getting busy. By March, she's not taking new clients for the current tax season. Good accountants definitely book up fast, so if you're considering one, don't wait until April!

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Emma Wilson

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I was in your exact situation last year. TurboTax said I owed $1850. I panicked and went to H&R Block thinking they'd find some magic deduction. They charged me $220 and I still owed $1750. Barely any difference. If your tax situation is simple, software probably isn't missing much.

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QuantumLeap

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That's my fear too. Did H&R Block charge you even though they didn't really help?

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Capital Gains Tax When Paying Off Business Loan? Concerned My Accountant Misclassified Business Debt

I took over a small manufacturing business 8 years ago through probate when the previous owner passed without a will. As part of the inheritance arrangement, I agreed that the business would take responsibility for a personal debt the deceased owner had incurred to start the business. This debt was actually a Line of Credit that a family member had taken out against their assets to help fund the business initially. I've been making payments directly to the LOC, but have a formal agreement with the family member outlining the repayment terms. The LOC just reached the end of its initial term and was refinanced with a much higher interest rate. When I talked to my accountant about potentially paying off the remaining $68,000 balance completely, he dropped a bombshell - said I'd be hit with capital gains tax because he never classified this as business debt on our books, but kept it as personal debt. I'm frustrated and confused by this. My accountant claims "it actually benefited you because we added the loan amount to your capital account which allowed you to withdraw capital without triggering additional taxes." This doesn't make sense to me since I've never taken distributions exceeding our annual profits. Furthermore, we received a substantial ERC (Employee Retention Credit) payment last year, and I suspect my accountant is overlooking those funds in our capital account since we had to file amended returns. My accountant always seems completely overwhelmed when I ask questions. Can someone help me understand what the tax implications are of my accountant never properly classifying this as business debt when I inherited the company? Am I right to think this misclassification has negatively affected me? Would there be ANY advantage to keeping this classified as personal rather than business debt all these years? Any insights would be greatly appreciated!

Just to offer another perspective here: Your accountant might be partially right about the capital account benefit, but they're missing the bigger picture. When a business assumes a personal debt, it should be recorded as a liability of the business with a corresponding entry to your capital/equity account. What likely happened is that your accountant increased your capital account (correctly) but failed to record the liability on the business books (incorrectly). This artificially inflated your basis. Now when you want to pay off the loan, the business is essentially making a distribution to you because the liability isn't on the books. The proper correction would be to record the liability on the business books now (which would decrease your capital account) but then the debt payment would be a proper business expense, not a distribution. You might need to file Form 3115 to change accounting method rather than amending all previous returns. And yes, the ERC funds would absolutely increase your capital account and available business assets, so your accountant should be including those in the calculations.

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Joy Olmedo

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This explanation makes a lot of sense - thank you! So essentially, my accountant only did half the correct accounting (increasing my capital account) but missed recording the actual liability on the business books? If I understand correctly, I should be able to correct this going forward by properly recording the liability now, which would reduce my capital account but allow the business to pay off the debt as a legitimate business expense without triggering capital gains? Would this correction potentially trigger any penalties or raise audit flags?

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You've got it exactly right. Your accountant increased your capital account but failed to record the corresponding liability on the business books, which created this imbalance. Correcting this going forward is possible by properly recording the liability now. This would reduce your capital account (essentially correcting the artificial inflation), but then allow the business to properly pay off the debt as a legitimate business expense without triggering capital gains or being treated as a distribution to you. This type of correction typically wouldn't trigger penalties if properly disclosed as an accounting method change using Form 3115. The IRS recognizes that accounting methods sometimes need correction, and they provide this form specifically for that purpose. It's considered a voluntary correction rather than something that raises audit flags. Include a clear explanation of the circumstances of the inheritance and how the debt was always intended to be a business obligation based on your agreement. Having good documentation of the original intent (like your contract with the family member) will strengthen your position if there are any questions.

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Sasha Reese

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I think there's confusion about what your accountant actually did. Based on your description, it sounds like they treated the original loan amount as an owner contribution (increasing your basis/capital account) but never recorded the loan as a business liability. Each payment the business made toward the loan was likely treated as a distribution to you. This isn't necessarily "wrong" from a tax perspective - it's just one way to handle it. The alternative would have been to record the loan as a business liability with no impact on your capital account. Then payments would be business expenses. If the business has been profitable and generating basis, those distributions might have been tax-free. But now that you want to pay it off completely, there could be issues if the distribution exceeds your current basis. I'd suggest getting a copy of the business balance sheet and your capital account statement to see exactly what's been recorded over the years. That would clarify what's actually happening here.

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This makes sense, but wouldn't reclassifying the debt now as a business liability be better for tax purposes? Even if it means adjusting the capital account? I thought business interest expense was deductible while personal loan interest isn't (or is limited).

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Ev Luca

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Does anyone know if there's a simple calculator online where I can see exactly how much of my income falls into each tax bracket? I'm trying to figure out if I should contribute more to my 401k to stay in a lower bracket.

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Avery Davis

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The IRS has a Tax Withholding Estimator on their website that's pretty good. TaxCaster by Intuit is also decent for quick calculations. Just google "tax bracket calculator" and you'll find several options.

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Something nobody mentions about tax brackets - they're adjusted for inflation each year! The income thresholds for each bracket typically increase a bit annually. So if your salary just keeps pace with inflation, you shouldn't "bracket creep" into higher rates.

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This is so important! I got a 3% raise last year and was worried about moving into a higher bracket, but then realized the brackets themselves had adjusted by about the same amount. My marginal rate stayed the same even though my income went up.

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Jacob Lewis

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Another thing to consider with 1099 work is that you need to figure out your own health insurance, retirement, and you don't get paid time off or sick days. When comparing offers, factor in what these benefits would cost you. For health insurance, check your state's marketplace. For retirement, look into a SEP IRA or Solo 401k - you can actually save more for retirement as a self-employed person than as an employee. The best part about being a contractor is the tax deductions. Keep track of EVERYTHING related to your work - part of your internet, phone bill, any equipment, software subscriptions, professional development courses, mileage if you drive for work, etc. It all adds up!

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Liam Brown

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Thank you for mentioning health insurance - I totally forgot about that! The company did say something about a stipend for health coverage, but I should definitely calculate what that would really cost me vs. employer-provided insurance. Do you have any recommendations for tracking all those business expenses? Is it just like a spreadsheet or should I use some kind of app?

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Jacob Lewis

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I started with a spreadsheet but quickly found it too tedious to maintain. Now I use an app called QuickBooks Self-Employed that lets me connect my bank accounts and credit cards, then swipe left or right to categorize transactions as business or personal. It automatically calculates my quarterly tax payments too. If you're just starting out and don't want to pay for software yet, even something as simple as taking photos of receipts and saving them to a dedicated folder can work. Just make sure you have some system in place from day one - it's much harder to reconstruct everything at tax time if you haven't been tracking throughout the year.

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Just a heads up - make sure they're classifying you correctly! Some companies try to classify employees as 1099 contractors to avoid paying benefits and employment taxes, but there are specific IRS rules about who can legally be considered a contractor vs. employee. If they control WHEN and HOW you do the work (set hours, at their location, using their equipment, etc.), you might legally be an employee, not a contractor. Worth looking into before accepting the offer.

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Ethan Clark

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This is super important advice. I got misclassified as a contractor when I was really doing employee work and ended up paying thousands in taxes I shouldn't have had to pay. The IRS has a form called SS-8 you can file if you think you're misclassified.

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Romeo Quest

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Another strategy the ultra-wealthy use is timing their income recognition. For example, Musk exercised a ton of options in 2021 when he knew he'd have to pay tax on them anyway, creating a huge tax bill that year. But this was likely strategic timing based on his overall financial plan. Also, many wealthy individuals establish charitable foundations and donor-advised funds. They donate appreciated stock directly to these entities (avoiding capital gains tax) and get a tax deduction for the full market value. The foundation can then sell the stock tax-free and use the proceeds for charitable activities that may align with the donor's interests.

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Val Rossi

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Do those charitable deductions really offset the taxes they would have paid though? I always assumed the math wouldn't work out since you're giving away the whole asset value to save a percentage in taxes.

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Romeo Quest

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You're right that the pure math doesn't work out if you're only thinking about tax savings - you'll always have more money if you just pay the taxes instead of donating the entire asset. The charitable deduction typically saves you your marginal tax rate (37% federal for top earners) plus potentially state taxes. However, the strategy makes sense when combined with genuine philanthropic goals. By donating appreciated stock, you avoid capital gains tax (up to 23.8% federal) that would have been due if you sold first and then donated cash. You also get the deduction for the full market value. So while you're giving away the asset, you're doing it in the most tax-efficient manner possible.

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Eve Freeman

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Everyone is talking about loans but missing a key point - for people like Musk, a lot of their "spending money" comes from other cash flows: board seats at other companies, speaking fees, book deals, etc. These provide regular income streams separate from their main stock holdings. Also, these ultra-wealthy people often have business expenses that are legally paid by their companies. Company car, security, travel on company aircraft - these reduce their need for personal spending while maintaining their lifestyle.

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Don't they have to pay taxes on those perks though? I thought if a company pays for personal expenses it counts as compensation and is taxable?

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