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This has been such an educational thread to follow. As someone who works with small business owners in a consulting capacity, I've definitely encountered people who think these LLC schemes are "smart tax planning" rather than fraud. What really stands out to me from all these responses is how the risk profile has completely changed with modern IRS enforcement capabilities. The days of thinking you can fly under the radar with questionable deductions are clearly over. When tax professionals with years of experience are saying they've seen clients face $27,000+ bills after audits, that should be a massive red flag for anyone considering these schemes. The point about documentation being crucial really resonates with me. Even for legitimate businesses, it seems like having detailed records showing the business purpose of every expense isn't just good practice anymore - it's essential protection in today's enforcement environment. To the original poster, I think you're absolutely doing the right thing by questioning this situation. Your professional integrity is worth far more than keeping clients who want to drag you into potentially fraudulent activities. The advice about documenting your guidance in writing and requiring acknowledgments for questionable positions seems like essential protection for anyone in your field. Thank you to all the tax professionals who shared their real experiences here - this kind of insight helps the rest of us understand just how serious these compliance issues have become.

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Maya Patel

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I completely agree with your assessment about how the risk profile has fundamentally shifted. As someone who's also new to understanding these tax compliance issues, this entire discussion has been a masterclass in why cutting corners on taxes is such a dangerous game. What really struck me from reading everyone's experiences is how these "smart tax planning" schemes create such obvious patterns that modern enforcement systems can easily detect. The fake LLC strategy seems particularly risky because you're essentially creating a paper trail that screams "audit me" to sophisticated algorithms. The stories about clients facing tens of thousands in penalties really drive home that the short-term "savings" from questionable deductions can quickly turn into financial disasters. When you factor in penalties, interest, and professional fees to deal with audits, it's clear that honest compliance is actually the most cost-effective approach. I appreciate how the tax professionals here have emphasized the importance of building practices around honest clients. It seems like in today's enforcement environment, there's no middle ground - you either operate with complete integrity or you're taking on massive liability risks. This discussion has definitely made me much more aware of these issues when working with small business owners. Thank you to everyone who shared their real-world experiences!

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Yuki Ito

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This discussion has been incredibly valuable for understanding the real risks involved in these schemes. As someone who runs a legitimate consulting business, I've always been careful about my deductions, but reading about the IRS's advanced detection capabilities really drives home how important proper documentation is. What concerns me most is how normalized this fake LLC approach has become in some circles. People seem to think that because audit rates are low overall, they're safe - but clearly the technology has changed everything. When the IRS can cross-reference business expenses with credit card transactions and even social media activity, these schemes become incredibly easy to detect. The stories about clients facing $27,000+ bills and multi-year audits are sobering reminders that the "everyone does it" mentality is incredibly dangerous. The short-term tax savings simply aren't worth the potential financial devastation when you get caught. For those of us running legitimate businesses, this reinforces the importance of the "ordinary and necessary" test for every expense. I'd rather be conservative and pay a bit more in taxes than face the nightmare of penalties, interest, and audit costs down the road. To the original poster - you're absolutely right to distance yourself from clients who won't listen to professional guidance on compliance. Your reputation and license are worth far more than any client fees.

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How to Call Cross River Bank About IRS Refund Delays (5-7 Day Holds) - Direct Phone Number & What to Expect

Been dealing with Cross River Bank for my refund deposit and getting nowhere. After hours of research, I found out that they're having major processing delays with IRS deposits. Multiple people reporting 5-7 day holds instead of the usual 24-48 hours. Just wanted to share this info since I know lots of us are waiting. I finally found a way to contact them directly about my refund. You can call Cross River Bank (CRB) yourself at 877-552-7255. Press 1 for "All Other ACH Deposits" and then ask: "Can you confirm if you have my tax refund from the IRS, and when will it be sent to my personal bank?" IF YOU GET PUSH BACK, I pushed back and exercised my right to confirm where my federal refund was sent. The IRS is required to provide that information, and they told me directly that my refund was sent to Cross River Bank. Once I had that info, CRB confirmed they received it and gave me the expected timeline (1-3 business days). If they try to refuse, just insist that the IRS already provided the routing number, and you just need to confirm processing. What to Expect: - If CRB releases the money today, it could hit your bank by tomorrow (1/31). - If they take the full processing time, expect it by Saturday (2/1) or Tuesday (2/4). - Check your bank account daily-ACH transfers usually post overnight. Your money isn't lost, it's just processing. Hope this helps anyone else stuck in this frustrating situation!

This is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing the direct number and exact steps! I've been stuck in limbo for 5 days with my refund and was starting to panic. The IRS website just says "sent to bank" but my account shows nothing. Just called 877-552-7255 and followed your instructions - the rep confirmed Cross River has my deposit and it should process within 1-2 business days. She mentioned they're definitely seeing delays due to enhanced fraud screening. Really appreciate you taking the time to research this and share what actually works. Bookmarking this post! šŸ™

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@McKenzie Shade So glad this helped you get some answers! I was in the exact same situation last week - that panic when you see sent "to bank but" nothing in your account is awful. It s'actually kind of reassuring that they re'being extra careful with fraud screening, even though the wait is torture. Definitely keep checking your account daily since ACH transfers can post at random times. Hope yours comes through in the next day or two! šŸ¤ž

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This is such a lifesaver! I've been stuck in this Cross River Bank limbo for 6 days and was going crazy not knowing where my refund was. Just called the number (877-552-7255) and pressed 1 like you said - the rep actually confirmed they have my deposit and said it should release within 2-3 business days max. She explained they're doing extra security checks on IRS deposits which is causing the delays. I was ready to file complaints with everyone but this at least gives me peace of mind that my money isn't lost. Thanks for doing the legwork and sharing the exact steps - you probably saved hundreds of people from having panic attacks! šŸ™Œ

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Since no one mentioned this specifically - Cash App should provide you with tax documents in their app. Go to the profile tab, then documents, and see if there's anything there. If your activity was minimal ($5 total), they probably didn't generate anything, which actually makes your life easier for tax filing. Just keep good records of your purchases and sales for when you do hit reportable thresholds.

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Romeo Quest

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I checked and there's nothing in the documents section. I guess that means I don't need to worry about it this year? I'll definitely keep better track going forward though as I'm planning to invest more.

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Yes, if there's nothing in the documents section, Cash App didn't generate a 1099-B for you, which typically means you didn't meet their reporting threshold. That's generally good news for your tax filing this year - one less thing to worry about. That said, keeping good records is smart, especially if you plan to invest more. Even without a 1099-B, you're still technically supposed to report all income, but the IRS isn't going to be concerned about a $1 gain. When you start making larger trades, those documents will start appearing, and you'll definitely need to include them on your return.

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Miguel Diaz

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Just to add some clarity on the thresholds - Cash App (and most brokerages) are required to send 1099-B forms if you have gross proceeds from sales of $600 or more in a tax year, OR if you had any reportable transactions regardless of amount (like certain corporate actions). Since you only have $5 total and haven't sold anything, you're well below any reporting threshold. The key thing people get confused about is the difference between having stocks worth $5 (not taxable) versus selling stocks and making $5 profit (technically taxable but practically ignorable at that level). You're in the first category, so you're good to go. Just remember that when you do eventually sell, that's when the tax clock starts ticking!

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This is really helpful clarification! I've been wondering about this exact distinction - having stocks vs selling stocks. So just to make sure I understand correctly: if I never actually sell my Cash App stocks, there's nothing to report on my taxes no matter how much the value goes up or down? And the $600 threshold you mentioned is for total sales proceeds, not profit, right? So if I bought $400 worth of stock and sold it all for $500, that $500 in proceeds would trigger a 1099-B even though I only made $100 profit?

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4 Does anyone know if you need to apportion the RSU income based on days worked in each state, or is it strictly based on residency at vesting? My situation is complicated because I lived in California when the RSUs were granted, but was traveling between California and Texas for work during the vesting periods.

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17 In my experience, it depends on the states involved and their specific rules. California, for example, looks at both where you were resident and where the work was performed that earned the compensation. For RSUs, California typically considers where you performed services during the period from grant to vest, not just where you were on vesting day. So if you split time between CA and TX, you might need to calculate the percentage of time you physically worked in each state during that period and allocate accordingly.

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Ellie Perry

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One thing I'd add is to make sure you understand the timing of when California considers RSU income to be "earned." California generally follows the rule that RSU income is earned ratably over the vesting period from grant date to vest date, not just on the vesting date itself. This means if you received RSUs in January 2022 while living in California, but moved to Washington in July 2022, and the RSUs vested in January 2024, California would typically claim tax on approximately 50% of that income (the portion earned while you were a CA resident). The key is documenting your exact move date and keeping records of your RSU grant agreements. I'd also recommend running the numbers both ways - allocating by days worked vs. strict residency periods - to see which method results in the most accurate tax treatment for your specific situation.

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This is really helpful - I hadn't considered that California might view RSU income as being earned ratably over the entire vesting period rather than just at the vest date. That definitely changes how I need to think about allocating the income between states. Do you know if there's an official IRS or California publication that explains this "ratable earning" approach? I want to make sure I'm calculating the allocation correctly and have proper documentation to support my position if questioned.

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Dylan Hughes

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Bruh these apps all the same fr just pick one and pray 😭

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I've used both actually! DailyPay was solid for my refund last year - took about the same time as Chime (2-3 days after IRS sent). The main difference I noticed was DailyPay's customer service was more responsive when I had questions. But honestly @Zoe Papadakis makes a good point about traditional banks being more reliable overall. If you're already set up with Chime and it's worked fine, might not be worth switching unless you have other reasons to use DailyPay.

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Carmen Ortiz

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Thanks for the real comparison! That's helpful to know they're pretty similar timing-wise. I'm leaning towards just sticking with Chime since it's been working fine for me. Don't really want to deal with setting up a whole new account just to potentially save a day or two

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