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For what it's worth, I sold three rental properties in the same tax year back in 2023, and I somewhat regret not staggering them. Even though the Section 1250 recapture was capped at 25%, the combined income pushed me over several thresholds that had cascading effects: 1. It triggered the 3.8% Net Investment Income Tax 2. I lost some itemized deductions due to AGI limitations 3. My Social Security benefits became more taxable 4. I got hit with a massive AMT bill I didn't anticipate If I had spread the sales across 3 years, my CPA estimated I would have saved around $42,000 in total taxes. Not all of this was due to the recapture itself, but the overall impact of concentrating so much income in one year. The 25% cap on the depreciation recapture isn't the only consideration!
This is exactly the kind of real-world experience I was hoping to hear about. Do you mind sharing roughly what income level you were at when you triggered these various thresholds? I'm trying to gauge how similar your situation might be to mine.
Before the property sales, my AGI was around $225,000 (married filing jointly). The three property sales added about $780,000 in total to my income that year, with approximately $320,000 of that being depreciation recapture. The rest was capital gains. This pushed my total income for the year to just over $1 million, which triggered numerous thresholds. The NIIT kicks in at much lower income levels (around $250,000 for married filing jointly), so you'd likely hit that with even one property sale of significant value. The AMT was the real surprise though - it effectively eliminated many of the deductions I normally claimed. If I could do it over, I would have worked with my CPA to project the exact tax impact before making all the sales in the same year. Timing really is everything with these large transactions.
Has anyone here done a 1031 exchange to avoid the recapture issue altogether? I'm considering selling a property but the depreciation recapture tax would be brutal. Wondering if rolling it into another investment property is worth the hassle and restrictions.
I did a 1031 exchange last year and while it was definitely paperwork-intensive, it saved me from a huge tax bill. The key is having a good qualified intermediary who keeps you compliant with all the strict timeframes (45 days to identify potential replacement properties, 180 days to close). The main downside is you're somewhat rushed to find a replacement property, which can lead to making compromised investment decisions. Also, you need to get a property of equal or greater value to fully defer the taxes. But if you're planning to stay in real estate anyway, it can be a great strategy.
I think the confusion might be about the tax YEAR versus the tax SEASON. If your 1099-R is for 2024, you file it during the 2025 tax season (which is happening now) when you're doing your 2024 taxes. Sometimes people get confused and think "next year" means the 2025 tax year (which you would file in 2026). Make sure you're clear on which year TurboTax is referring to when it says "next year.
That's a really good point! I went back and looked at the exact message again. It specifically said I didn't need to report this distribution "until next tax season" - which would mean the 2026 filing season for 2025 taxes. That seems wrong since my form is clearly marked 2024. I'm going to go through the TurboTax questions again and see if I made an error somewhere. I definitely want this reported on my 2024 return since I've already paid a lot in taxes this year.
That's exactly what I suspected. TurboTax is saying to file it "next tax season" which would indeed be wrong for a 2024 form. When you go back through, pay special attention to any questions about rollover periods or special distribution types. Sometimes a single wrong answer can send TurboTax down an incorrect path. Also check Box 7 on your 1099-R - the distribution code there is crucial for determining how it's taxed. Codes like "1" mean a normal taxable distribution, while others may have special rules.
Does anyone know if there's a difference in how you report 1099-R distributions depending on the type of retirement account? I have both a traditional 401k and a Roth IRA that I took money from last year.
Yes, there's a huge difference! Traditional 401k withdrawals are generally fully taxable (you'll get a 1099-R with code "1" or "7" in Box 7). But for Roth IRAs, it depends on whether you're withdrawing contributions or earnings and how long you've had the account. If you're withdrawing contributions from a Roth IRA, those come out tax-free because you already paid tax on that money. If you're withdrawing earnings before age 59½ and before the account is 5 years old, those might be both taxable and subject to penalties.
I've gone both routes and honestly think the sweet spot for most people is using good tax software but paying for a CPA consultation every few years or when your situation changes dramatically. For example, I use TaxAct myself most years, but when I started my small business in 2020, I paid for a 1-hour consultation with a CPA ($150) who advised me on business structure, what to track, and tax strategies. Then incorporated his advice going forward using software. When I bought my house in 2023, did another consultation. Way cheaper than full service every year but you still get the professional insights when you need them most.
So do you just call a random CPA office and ask for a consultation? Do they offer that as a service or do you need to be an existing client?
Most CPAs are happy to do consultations - it's easy money for them with limited paperwork. I just called a few local offices and asked specifically for a tax planning consultation rather than tax preparation. I explained my situation and that I wanted advice but planned to file myself. Some do require you to be clients, but plenty of smaller firms or solo practitioners are happy to do one-off consultations, especially during their non-busy season (May-December).
What software does everyone recommend? I used FreeTaxUSA last year and it was WAY cheaper than TurboTax but I'm paranoid I missed something.
Have you guys considered using a Qualified Joint Venture election? My accountant suggested it for my partner and I since we have three kids and split everything like you do. It lets unmarried couples who co-own a business divide the income and expenses without forming a partnership.
We don't actually have a business together though - we're just splitting household and child expenses. Does a qualified joint venture apply to our situation? I thought that was specifically for business partnerships.
You're absolutely right - I confused QJV with something else. Qualified Joint Venture is indeed only for business partnerships, not for personal tax filing situations with shared children. A better approach for your situation would be to carefully calculate who provides more than 50% of the cost of maintaining the home to determine Head of Household eligibility. Since you own the house but split expenses 50/50, you'll need to track everything carefully. My accountant recommended keeping a spreadsheet of all household and child expenses with receipts, as unmarried couples with children are statistically more likely to be questioned about their filing status and dependent claims.
Don't forget about the Earned Income Credit! My ex and I live together with our kids (not married) and we found out that if the lower earning parent claims the kids, you might qualify for EIC which can be substantial.
But they both make six figures. EIC phases out completely around $60k even with multiple kids. They're way beyond the income limits for that credit.
You're totally right! I completely missed the part about them both making around $120k. At that income level, they're definitely over the EIC threshold. For their income level, they should focus more on optimizing the Child Tax Credit, Additional Child Tax Credit, and the Child and Dependent Care Credit. They should also carefully consider who should claim Head of Household status since that provides a more favorable tax bracket structure than filing as Single.
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Former tax preparer here - just want to add that a printed copy of your electronic W2 from Gusto is 100% legal and valid for ALL official purposes including DMV, loans, apartments, etc. The IRS has recognized electronic W2s as official tax documents for years now. Just make sure when you print it: 1) Use regular white paper 2) Print at 100% scale (not shrunk or zoomed) 3) Make sure all text is crisp and legible 4) Print in color if there are any color elements The DMV just needs to verify your name, SSN and address. They don't care if it came in the mail or was printed from an electronic file.
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Sofia Morales
ā¢Thanks so much for this info! Do you know if I need to bring additional documentation besides the W2 to prove my address? I'm a little nervous about the DMV rejecting it since it's my first time getting a license.
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GalaxyGuardian
ā¢You should bring at least one additional form of address verification just to be safe. DMV requirements vary by state, but typically a utility bill, bank statement, or lease agreement in your name works well as a secondary proof. For your first license, they'll likely also require your birth certificate or passport for identity verification, along with your Social Security card or a document with your SSN on it (which your W2 satisfies). Check your specific state DMV website for their exact requirements, as they do vary somewhat. Don't be nervous - this is a routine process and they deal with printed W2s all the time!
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Paolo Ricci
Has anyone had any issues with the print quality from places like FedEx or UPS? I'm worried the DMV might reject it if it doesn't look "official" enough.
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Amina Toure
ā¢I printed my Gusto W2 at UPS last year and had zero problems. Just make sure you choose the higher quality printing option if they offer different levels. Mine came out looking super crisp and professional - the DMV didn't even blink when I handed it to them. Cost me like 65 cents for the color copy.
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