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Something important no one's mentioned yet: if the property was used as collateral for an SBA loan but was NOT used in the business itself (like if you pledged your investment property for a completely separate business loan), the relationship between the loan and property is really just about the security interest, not about the tax basis. Check if your loan was partially forgiven when they took the proceeds. If the $380k didn't fully satisfy the loan and they forgave the remaining balance, that forgiven amount could be taxable as cancellation of debt income, which is separate from the capital gain on the property sale.
That's EXACTLY my situation! The property was just collateral for my business loan but not used in the business. The $380k satisfied about 80% of the loan and they did forgive the rest. So I need to worry about both capital gains tax AND cancellation of debt income?
Yes, you'll need to address both issues on your tax return. The capital gain from the property sale is calculated as the difference between the sale price and your adjusted basis, reported on Schedule D. For the loan forgiveness, you'll need to report this as cancellation of debt income on Form 982. However, there are exceptions that might apply - particularly if you were insolvent at the time of forgiveness or if the debt was related to a qualified business. This is definitely a situation where professional advice is valuable, as proper documentation can make a huge difference in your tax outcome.
Beware of the phantom gain trap here! I went through something similar. Even though all money went to the bank, the IRS still considered the debt relief as income to me. What made it worse - I had depreciated the property over the years (required for rental/investment property), which lowered my basis. So my "profit" calculation included not just the actual appreciation but also all that depreciation getting "recaptured" at a 25% tax rate! Ended up owing taxes on money I never saw. Make sure you calculate your adjusted basis correctly including any depreciation you've taken.
Just a heads up - make sure your wife keeps all the documentation that came with the check! My brother went through this last year with my grandmother's IRA, and he needed that withholding statement when filing his taxes to prove the taxes had already been withheld. Also, depending on the size of the inheritance, you might want to look into making an estimated tax payment if the withholding won't cover your tax liability. My brother got hit with an underpayment penalty because the withholding wasn't enough based on his tax bracket.
Thanks for the warning! Do you know where I can figure out if we need to make an estimated payment? The inheritance was about $47,000 and they withheld around $5,600. We both make about $70k each yearly if that helps.
With a combined income of around $140k plus this $47k inheritance, you're looking at potentially being in the 22% federal tax bracket for 2025 (assuming you're married filing jointly and tax brackets stay similar to 2024). At 22%, the tax on $47k would be about $10,340, but they only withheld $5,600. So you might be under-withheld by around $4,740. To avoid a potential underpayment penalty, you could make an estimated tax payment using Form 1040-ES. The IRS website has a withholding calculator that can help determine the exact amount based on your full financial picture.
Has anyone here used TurboTax to report inherited IRA distributions? I'm trying to figure out if their software handles this correctly or if I need to go to an actual accountant this year. I inherited my mom's IRA similar to OP's situation and I'm worried about messing it up.
I used TurboTax last year for this exact situation. It actually does a good job with inherited IRAs. There's a specific section for reporting distributions, and it asks if it's from an inherited account. Just make sure you have the 1099-R form from the financial institution (they'll send it in January/February) and enter everything exactly as shown on that form.
Just to add another dimension to this Pillar 2 discussion - the impact varies dramatically by industry. Our manufacturing firm has substantial tangible assets in multiple jurisdictions, so we benefit significantly from the Substance-Based Income Exclusion (SBIE) that can reduce the effective impact of the top-up tax. Tech companies with mostly intangible assets and limited physical presence are going to be hit much harder proportionally. Their ability to use IP holding companies in low-tax jurisdictions will be severely curtailed. Also worth noting that Pillar 2 isn't just about the minimum tax - it's part of a broader OECD framework that includes Pillar 1, which reallocates taxing rights for the largest multinationals. The whole package represents the biggest change to international tax in decades.
That's a great point about industry differences. Do you think this will lead to changes in how companies structure their operations? Like will we see tech companies suddenly investing in more physical assets in certain jurisdictions just to benefit from those exclusions?
I definitely expect to see behavioral changes in how companies structure their operations. We're already seeing some of our tech industry clients evaluating whether to increase substantive operations in certain jurisdictions. This doesn't necessarily mean building factories, but could involve relocating actual R&D teams or other high-value functions to jurisdictions that still offer competitive advantages while meeting substance requirements. Singapore and Ireland, for instance, are promoting their educated workforces and business-friendly environments rather than just low tax rates. The key is having genuine economic activity that justifies the profit allocation, not just paper arrangements.
Has anyone looked at how different countries are implementing the Undertaxed Profits Rule (UPR) vs. the Income Inclusion Rule (IIR)? From what i understand, the IIR applies to parent companies while the UPR is more of a backstop? Our group structure spans 8 countries and im trying to figure out which country's rules will take precedence.
You're right about the basic framework. The Income Inclusion Rule (IIR) has priority and allows the parent entity's jurisdiction to collect the top-up tax. The Undertaxed Profits Rule (UPR) is a backstop that kicks in if the parent jurisdiction doesn't have an IIR in place. What makes this complex is the implementation timeline. The EU countries are generally moving forward with coordinated implementation, while the US implementation remains uncertain given the political challenges of passing tax legislation. This creates potential for inconsistent application and even double taxation in some scenarios. For your 8-country structure, you'll need to map out which jurisdictions are implementing which rules and when. The OECD has a hierarchy for which country's rules take precedence, but transitional issues are likely during the rollout phase.
Don't forget about quarterly estimated tax payments if you're making money from these marketplace sales! I learned this the hard way and got hit with an underpayment penalty even though I reported everything correctly on my annual return. If you expect to owe more than $1,000 in taxes from your side hustle, you should be making quarterly payments.
What happens if you miss a quarterly payment? I just realized I should have been doing this for my Etsy shop but I haven't made any payments this year at all...
If you miss quarterly payments, you might have to pay a penalty for underpayment. The penalty is basically interest on the amount you should have paid by each quarterly deadline. The more you earn from your business, the larger the potential penalty. For a small Etsy shop, the penalty might not be huge, but it's still something you want to avoid in the future. You can start making the payments now for the remainder of the year to minimize any potential penalties. Form 1040-ES is what you'll use for these payments. And definitely plan to make these payments next year - it's much easier to pay a little each quarter than to get hit with a big tax bill plus penalties at filing time!
has anyone heard anything about if the 1099k threshold is going back down to $600 next year? i keep seeing conflicting things online and idk if i need to be keeping better records for my marketplace stuff
The latest information is that the threshold is $5,000 for tax year 2024 (filing in 2025), and is scheduled to drop to $600 for tax year 2025 (filing in 2026). Congress has pushed back the $600 threshold implementation several times, so it's possible it could change again.
Vanessa Figueroa
Just wanted to add something nobody mentioned - if you're filing jointly with a spouse, you can file Form 8379 (Injured Spouse Allocation) if the debt is only yours (not joint). This might let your spouse get their portion of the refund. Doesn't help if you're single or if it's joint debt though.
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Raul Neal
ā¢That's interesting! My debt is just mine, but I'm filing single so I guess that doesn't help in my case. But good to know for others. How exactly does that work with the injured spouse thing?
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Vanessa Figueroa
ā¢The Injured Spouse Allocation basically separates your tax return into two portions - one belonging to you and one belonging to your spouse. If only one spouse has the debt (like back taxes, child support, etc.), the other spouse can file this form to protect their share of the refund. The IRS uses a formula based on income, withholding, credits, etc. to determine how much of the refund belongs to each spouse. Then only the debtor spouse's portion gets offset while the injured spouse can still receive their share. It's a bit complicated but can be really helpful in joint filing situations where only one person has the debt.
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Abby Marshall
Can you just change your W-4 to withhold less for the rest of the year to make up for the refund you're not getting? That way you'd have more money in each paycheck instead of waiting for a refund that's just going to your debt anyway.
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Sadie Benitez
ā¢This is actually really smart. Adjust your withholding so you're getting more in each paycheck rather than giving the IRS an interest-free loan that just goes to your debt. Just be careful not to under-withhold too much or you'll end up owing again next year.
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