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My accountant told me something important about tax record keeping that hasn't been mentioned yet - employment tax records need to be kept for at least 4 years, not just 3! This includes things like W-2s, payroll tax forms, and anything related to employment taxes. Just wanted to share that extra detail.

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Does that 4-year rule apply to employees or just to employers? Like, do I as a regular employee need to keep my W-2s for 4 years, or is that just for businesses?

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The 4-year retention rule for employment tax records applies primarily to employers who need to maintain payroll records, tax forms, etc. However, as an employee, it's still wise to keep your W-2s for at least 4 years too because they're essential for verifying your Social Security contributions and earnings history. If there's ever a discrepancy in your Social Security earnings record (which can happen), having those W-2s can be crucial evidence. The Social Security Administration can make corrections to your earnings record beyond the typical IRS audit period, so having documentation for longer than 3 years can be important for your future benefits.

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Nick Kravitz

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I just want to say that I'm in the "shred everything" camp! Had my identity stolen back in 2020 after I just recycled some old financial statements. Now I shred EVERYTHING with my name on it. Bought a heavy-duty shredder for $89 and it was worth every penny for the peace of mind.

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Hannah White

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Do you have a recommendation for a good shredder brand? Mine keeps jamming every time I try to do more than 2-3 pages.

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Caden Nguyen

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The bank statement thing is super important! I got audited in 2023 for my 2021 taxes and while I didn't have all my receipts, I was able to show bank and credit card statements that matched up with my claimed expenses. The auditor accepted those as proof for the smaller items. They were mostly concerned with the bigger equipment purchases over $500. just my experience!

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Avery Flores

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That's really helpful to know about your audit experience. Did they give you a hard time about the missing receipts initially? How long did the whole audit process take from start to finish?

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Caden Nguyen

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They definitely asked for the receipts first and I had a moment of panic when I couldn't produce many of them. But when I showed my expense tracking spreadsheet along with the corresponding bank statements, they were pretty reasonable about it. They focused way more attention on verifying my larger deductions like my home office and some camera equipment I bought for my online business. The whole process took about three and a half months from the initial letter to resolution. It was stressful but not nearly as bad as I expected. The key was being organized with the records I did have and being able to explain my business purpose for each category of expense.

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Zoe Gonzalez

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Something nobody mentioned yet - what kind of 1099 work are you doing? If the supplies are directly related to your specific work, you're in better shape even with limited documentation. Like if you're a tutor and buy educational materials, that's clearly business-related. But if you're a delivery driver buying office supplies, that might get more scrutiny.

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I'm doing online tutoring! I use the notebooks and folders to organize materials for different students, printer paper/ink for worksheets, and pens/markers for creating visual aids. So everything is pretty directly tied to my actual work activities.

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Ashley Adams

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This is so true! I'm a freelance designer and my art supplies are obviously business expenses, but when I tried deducting general office stuff like a stapler and paper clips, my tax guy said those are harder to justify without good documentation.

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I've been self-filing for 10 years and nobody in my income bracket ($160k) uses tax preparers unless they have rental properties or complicated business situations. Tax software makes it super easy - just answer questions and it does all the calculations. If your situation is simple: W-2 job, standard deduction - should take like 30 minutes. If slightly complex: itemizing, investments, side hustle - maybe 1-2 hours. If complex: multiple businesses, rental properties - might want a professional. Most people spend more time watching YouTube videos about taxes than it actually takes to file them lol.

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Luca Ferrari

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Thanks for breaking it down like this! I definitely don't have rental properties or a complex business - just regular W-2 income and some stocks. This makes me feel much better about trying it myself. Do you have a preferred tax software you'd recommend?

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I've used both TurboTax and H&R Block over the years. TurboTax has a slightly better interface and is more user-friendly for beginners, but it's also more expensive. H&R Block is cheaper and gets the job done just as well once you get used to it. If your situation is relatively straightforward, I'd also look at FreeTaxUSA - it's much cheaper than the big names and handles all the basics plus investments really well. TaxSlayer is another good budget option. All of these will walk you through everything step-by-step, so you really can't mess it up too badly.

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dont listen to these ppl saying u can do it urself easily. i tried last year and ended up owing $3700 when i shouldve got a refund!!! had to hire a pro to fix it and he found like 6 deductions i missed. if u make over 50k just pay someone, its worth it.

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This isn't really accurate advice. Your experience sounds like you might have made mistakes in your self-filing, but that doesn't mean everyone will. I make over $100k and have been self-filing for years with no issues. Tax software is designed to find deductions through its questionnaire process.

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Niko Ramsey

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Just to add another perspective - I've received 1095 forms late for the past three tax seasons. As long as you had health insurance and reported that correctly on your tax return, you really don't need to do anything with these forms except keep them with your tax records. The only time you'd need to amend is if you claimed you DIDN'T have insurance when these forms show you actually did, or if you claimed a premium tax credit incorrectly based on info that would be on a 1095-A (which is different from B and C forms).

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Cole Roush

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Thank you all for the responses! I went back and checked my filed return, and I did correctly report that I had health insurance coverage for all 12 months last year. So it sounds like I don't need to do anything with these 1095-B and 1095-C forms other than keep them with my records?

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Niko Ramsey

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That's exactly right! Just keep them with your other tax documents in case of an audit, but there's no need to amend your return if you correctly reported your coverage status. The 1095-B and 1095-C are basically just verification documents - they don't directly affect your tax calculation like income forms do.

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Don't forget that the IRS has been seriously backed up since the pandemic. Even if you did need to amend (which sounds like you don't based on your situation), they're taking FOREVER to process amended returns. My brother amended his 2022 taxes in May 2023 and didn't get his refund until February 2024!

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Jabari-Jo

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This is so true! I filed an amended return last year and the "Where's My Amended Return" tool just showed "processing" for 9 months straight. The IRS is completely overloaded.

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Caleb Stark

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Just a quick warning to anyone using the automatic extension - make sure you still file Form 4868 for an extension of your actual tax return by April 18th! The FBAR automatic extension ONLY applies to the FBAR itself (FinCEN Form 114), not your tax return. I made this mistake last year thinking the automatic extension covered everything related to foreign accounts. Ended up having to explain to the IRS why my tax return was late even though my FBAR was timely filed. Don't repeat my mistake!

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Wait, so if I have to report foreign accounts on Schedule B of my tax return, that part isn't extended automatically with the FBAR extension? That's confusing since they're related. Can you clarify what forms need separate extension requests?

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Caleb Stark

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That's right - they're definitely related but handled by different agencies. The FBAR (FinCEN Form 114) goes to FinCEN, not the IRS, which is why it has its own separate deadline and extension rules. Your tax return (1040 and all schedules including Schedule B where you check the box about foreign accounts) goes to the IRS and follows regular tax return deadlines. So you need Form 4868 to extend your tax return filing. Also, Form 8938 (Statement of Foreign Financial Assets) if required, goes with your tax return and would be covered by the Form 4868 extension, not the automatic FBAR extension.

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Something nobody has mentioned yet - if you haven't filed FBARs in previous years when you should have, look into the Streamlined Filing Compliance Procedures. The penalties for late/missed FBARs can be INSANE (like $10,000 per account per year), but the Streamlined program lets you catch up without penalties if your failure to file wasn't willful. I went through this last year after realizing I should have been filing FBARs for 5 years. You file your past FBARs, certify that your failure was non-willful, and you're good. Much better than waiting for them to find you!

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Ella Lewis

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Thanks for bringing this up! Does anyone know if they still require 6 years of back FBARs for the Streamlined program? And do you need to amend all your tax returns too, or just file the missing FBARs?

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