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I've found that local CPAs who advertise "small business" expertise often lack the specific knowledge for startup equity situations. My first accountant had no idea what an 83(b) election was, and I nearly missed the 30-day window to file! Look for someone who has clients similar to you - other tech founders with venture backing. Ask potential accountants specific questions: "How would you handle tax planning for a potential secondary sale?" or "What documentation do you recommend I maintain for my 83(b) election?" If they give vague answers, move on.
How much should I expect to pay for a good startup-focused accountant? The quotes I'm getting seem all over the place, from $400 to $3000+ for personal tax prep. Is the higher price worth it?
The price range definitely varies based on complexity and location. If you have multiple equity events, secondary sales, or multi-state filing requirements, expect to be on the higher end of that range. In my experience, paying more for someone with startup expertise has saved me far more than the difference in preparation fees. For context, I paid about $800 for a general CPA my first year, who missed several startup-specific deductions. The next year I paid $2200 for a startup-specialized accountant who saved me over $15,000 through proper equity planning and startup-specific tax strategies. Look at it as an investment - the right accountant should identify tax savings that exceed their fee difference.
Has anybody used one of those big online tax prep companies like H&R Block or TurboTax for startup situations??? I know they have "small business" versions but not sure if they can handle 83b stuff or secondary sales?
Omg please dont. I tried using TurboTax last year for my startup situation and it was a COMPLETE disaster. The software kept getting confused by my 83(b) election and couldn't properly handle the reporting of my partial stock sale. Ended up having to hire a professional anyway to fix all the mistakes and file an amended return. Cost me way more in the end.
One other thing to consider - has your son checked if his state taxes were also filed? Sometimes people focus on just the federal return but forget they may have also paid state taxes unnecessarily. Make sure to check that too and file the equivalent state form for a refund if applicable!
Good point about state taxes! This varies significantly by state though. When my daughter was in a similar situation, our state (California) had a much lower filing threshold than federal, so she actually did need to file state taxes even though she was exempt from federal. Definitely worth checking the specific requirements for your state.
Be prepared for quite a wait on that refund. My daughter was in exactly this position last year, and while the IRS did approve her Form 843, it took nearly 6 months to process. They're seriously backlogged still. Also, make sure your son doesn't file next year if he's not required to - some tax software automatically reminds previous customers to file again, which could lead to the same issue next year.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet is that while marginal tax rates work as described above, there are other income-based thresholds that DON'T work that way. For example, certain credits and deductions phase out completely once you hit certain income levels. These aren't marginal - they're cliffs where you either qualify or you don't. Also remember that your taxable income isn't the same as your gross income. Contributing to a traditional 401k, HSA, or taking the standard deduction all reduce your taxable income, potentially keeping you in a lower bracket.
That's a great point! Are there any major "cliffs" I should watch out for around the $100k income level? I'm currently putting about 10% into my 401k but wondering if I should increase that to stay under certain thresholds.
Around the $100k level, you might start seeing some phase-outs, but most aren't complete cliffs. Student loan interest deduction starts phasing out at about $75k (single filers) and is completely gone by $90k. The Roth IRA contribution starts phasing out around $125k and is fully eliminated around $140k. Increasing your 401k contribution is almost always a good strategy when you're approaching these thresholds. Not only does it lower your taxable income, but you're also increasing your retirement savings. For 2025, you can contribute up to $23,000 to a 401k if you're under 50, which could significantly reduce your taxable income and potentially keep you under these thresholds.
do any of yall know if the tax calculator on turbotax is any good for figuring out marginal tax stuff? i tried using it but im not sure if its calculating everything right especially with the new tax brackets
TurboTax's calculator is decent for basic estimates, but it doesn't always let you see the breakdown of how your income is taxed across different brackets. I found TaxCaster (by Intuit, same company as TurboTax) gives a more detailed view of the marginal rates. The IRS also has a withholding calculator on their website that's pretty accurate but not very user-friendly.
One thing to keep in mind with Form 1125-A errors is to check if the mistakes affected your Schedule C and subsequently your Schedule SE for self-employment tax. When the IRS makes errors on cost of goods sold, it can cascade through your return and impact multiple calculations. In my experience as a small business owner, it's worth taking the time to recalculate everything carefully before submitting your 1040-X. In particular, make sure your corrected 1125-A properly flows to your Schedule C, which then affects your AGI, any AGI-based credits, and your self-employment tax.
That's a really good point I hadn't considered. If they messed up my COGS on the 1125-A, it definitely would have changed my Schedule C profit and then my self-employment tax on Schedule SE. Should I submit copies of all three forms with my amendment or just the 1125-A?
You should submit the entire amended tax return package, including the corrected 1125-A, Schedule C, Schedule SE, and main 1040 form. This gives the IRS a complete picture of how the corrections flow through your entire return. When preparing your 1040-X, you'll need to show the original figures that were processed, the corrected figures, and the difference between them. Make sure your explanation in Part III clearly traces how the 1125-A errors affected each subsequent form. For example: "The IRS incorrectly transcribed line 2 of Form 1125-A as $8,400 instead of the correct amount of $11,250. This error reduced my Cost of Goods Sold by $2,850, which incorrectly increased my Schedule C profit and subsequently my self-employment tax on Schedule SE." This level of detail helps the IRS follow your calculations and process your amendment more efficiently.
Has anyone here used tax software to prepare their amendment for IRS errors? I'm in a similar situation with Form 1125-A mistakes but wondering if TurboTax or H&R Block can handle this kind of correction effectively.
I used TaxAct to prepare an amended return last year when the IRS messed up my itemized deductions. It worked fine but you have to be very careful. The software doesn't automatically know that you're correcting IRS errors versus changing your own entries. Make sure you use the explanation section to clearly state that you're fixing IRS transcription errors, not changing your original filing.
Callum Savage
Did your friend happen to mention if their school was religiously affiliated? Some religious organizations allow you to structure tuition as a "donation" to the church with a scholarship back to your child. Then you deduct the donation. My sister does this with her kids' Catholic school. Not sure if it's totally legit though...
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Ally Tailer
ā¢That donation approach sounds super sketchy and likely illegal if audited. The IRS specifically looks for these kinds of arrangements. If you make a donation with the understanding that your child receives a direct benefit (like reduced tuition), it's not a legitimate charitable donation for tax purposes.
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Aliyah Debovski
Maybe they were talking about a dependent care FSA? If your kid is under 13, you can use a dependent care FSA to pay for before and after school programs (but not regular tuition) with pre-tax dollars. Up to $5,000 per year for married filing jointly. You mentioned this wasn't what they were referring to, but thought I'd throw it out there in case it helps someone else reading this.
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