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Another option to consider is contacting the Taxpayer Advocate Service (TAS). They're an independent organization within the IRS designed to help taxpayers with problems that haven't been resolved through normal channels. If your audit has been ongoing for 2+ years with no resolution, you almost certainly qualify for their help. Their services are completely free, and they can often cut through red tape that's impossible for individual taxpayers to navigate. Go to taxpayeradvocate.irs.gov to find your local office and submit Form 911 (Request for Taxpayer Advocate Service Assistance). I had a similar situation with an audit that dragged on for 18 months, and they helped resolve it within 6 weeks.
Has anyone here actually successfully used the TAS recently? I tried back in 2023 for a different tax issue and they sent me a letter saying they were too backlogged to take new cases except in extreme hardship situations.
You're right that they've been overwhelmed in recent years, but their backlog has improved significantly in the last 6-8 months. The key is to clearly demonstrate the financial hardship the audit is causing you - be specific about any loans you've had to take, mental health impacts, inability to make financial decisions due to the uncertainty, etc. I've found that if you include supporting documentation of hardship with your Form 911, you're much more likely to be accepted. Also, calling your local TAS office directly (rather than just mailing in the form) can help get your case prioritized.
I was in almost the exact same situation (2021 audit, dragged on forever). What finally worked for me was contacting my Congressional representative's office. Most people don't realize that ALL members of Congress have staff dedicated to helping constituents with federal agency issues - including IRS problems. I called my rep's office, explained the situation, and they had me fill out a privacy release form. Their caseworker contacted the IRS on my behalf, and suddenly things started moving. The audit was completed within 3 weeks after being stalled for over a year. It's completely free, and the IRS prioritizes congressional inquiries because, well, Congress controls their funding. Just Google your representative + "constituent services" to find contact info.
One thing nobody mentioned yet is that different components of your rental property can be depreciated on different schedules. The house structure is 27.5 years, but appliances, carpeting, and some fixtures can be depreciated over 5-7 years, which accelerates your deductions. This is called "component depreciation" or "cost segregation" and can significantly increase your deductions in the early years. Might be worth looking into if your rental has a lot of new appliances or recent renovations.
That sounds helpful! Do I need some kind of professional evaluation to do this component depreciation thing or can I figure it out myself?
For a single small rental property, you can probably DIY it with good documentation. Basically, you need to break out the costs of appliances, carpet, window treatments, etc. and depreciate them separately on a 5-7 year schedule instead of lumping them into the building's 27.5 year schedule. Professional cost segregation studies are typically used for larger properties or commercial buildings where the potential tax savings justify the cost. For your situation, just keep good records of anything you replace or upgrade, note the value, and depreciate those items on their shorter schedules. Most tax software can handle this if you set up each component separately.
Dont forget that when u inherited the property, u get whats called a "stepped-up basis" to the fair market value on the date of death. So even if your grandmother paid $50k for it decades ago, your basis is the current $225k value. This is HUGE for calculating depreciation and eventual capital gains!
For anyone still confused about the half-time requirement for AOC: I'm a tax preparer and this comes up all the time with apprenticeship programs. The key is understanding how your specific college calculates "full-time" status. Community colleges typically consider 12-15 credit hours per semester as full-time, so half-time would be 6-7.5 credits. But here's the tricky part - some apprenticeship programs have special arrangements where your hands-on training hours also count toward your academic credits. Check with both your apprenticeship coordinator AND the college registrar to see if your total program (classroom + practical training) meets the half-time threshold. Many apprentices miss out on this credit because they only count the classroom hours.
This is super helpful! My program coordinator mentioned something about the practical hours counting toward credits but I didn't connect that to the tax implications. Does that mean I should include all my apprenticeship hours and not just the classroom time when figuring out if I meet half-time status?
Yes, absolutely include all hours that the college is counting toward your credits or certificate. Many apprenticeship programs are structured so that your on-the-job training hours translate to a certain number of credits in addition to your classroom time. For example, I had a client whose 4-week classroom portion only equated to 4 credits, which wouldn't meet the half-time requirement. But when we included the supervised work experience that was part of the program curriculum (which added another 4 credits), they qualified for AOC. The key is that these work hours must be formally recognized by the educational institution as part of your academic program.
Anyone know if this AOC thing applies to online courses too? My apprenticeship has us doing 3 weeks in person and then 4 weeks of online modules. Tax software keeps asking me the same question about half-time workload and im stuck.
Yes, online courses absolutely count toward your workload calculation for AOC purposes as long as they're part of your eligible program and offered by a qualifying educational institution. The IRS doesn't distinguish between delivery methods (online vs. in-person) when determining eligibility. What matters is the credit hours or equivalent as determined by your educational institution. For your situation with 3 weeks in-person plus 4 weeks online, you'd need to find out how many total credits/units that represents at your institution and whether it meets their half-time threshold.
Don't forget that you can also apply to have the penalty waived if this is your first time being assessed a penalty! The IRS has a First Time Abatement policy that many people don't know about. If you've had a clean tax record for the past 3 years (filed and paid on time), you can often get the penalty removed entirely. Worth a shot before you pay it!
Whoa, I had no idea about this! How do I apply for the First Time Abatement? Is that something I can do online or do I need to call them?
You'll need to call the IRS and specifically request a "First Time Penalty Abatement" for your failure to pay estimated taxes. Have your notice handy when you call. The agent will check your compliance history for the past 3 years. If calling seems daunting (which it can be), you can also write a penalty abatement letter and mail it to the address on your notice. Be sure to reference the notice number, explain that this is your first time missing estimated tax payments, and specifically request a "First Time Penalty Abatement" in your letter.
Just sharing my experience - I messed up my rental property quarterly payments too last year. Used TurboTax this year and they have a feature that helps you calculate your quarterly estimates for next year AND sends you reminders when payments are due. Been super helpful for keeping me on track!
Joshua Hellan
For next year, just use a tax service that can handle both federal AND state from the beginning. Cash App is convenient but super limited. I use H&R Block online and they make it really easy to do both together. Just my two cents after doing my own taxes for like 10 years.
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Jibriel Kohn
ā¢Does H&R Block have a free version? Cash App and FreeTaxUSA are appealing because they offer free or really cheap filing options. I don't want to spend $50+ on tax prep if I can avoid it.
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Joshua Hellan
ā¢H&R Block does have a free version but like all the "free" tax services, it's only free for simple returns. If you have anything slightly complicated (investment income, self-employment, itemized deductions, etc.), you'll end up having to upgrade to a paid version. Honestly, FreeTaxUSA is probably your best bet for affordable filing - their federal filing is free and state is only like $15. Cash App might be convenient for banking, but as you've discovered, it's pretty limited as a tax service. Whatever you choose, just stick with ONE service next year to avoid this headache!
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Edison Estevez
Just wondering - did you have any major life changes or special tax situations this year? I had a similar issue where I had to file federal and state separately because of a move between states halfway through the year. ended up using two different services but made it work. might help to know your specific situation.
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Holly Lascelles
ā¢Nothing complicated really - just standard W-2 income from one job and some basic interest income from my savings account. No major life changes or anything fancy. I just got lured in by Cash App's free filing and didn't realize they couldn't do my state taxes until after I'd already submitted the federal return.
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Emily Nguyen-Smith
ā¢If it's a simple return like OP described, they should definitely be able to file state-only through most services. I've used TurboTax for state-only before when I had a similar situation. Just make sure to select "I've already filed my federal return" option when you start.
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