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Something else to consider - the W-4 form changed significantly a couple years ago. It no longer uses allowances (0, 1, 2, etc). Instead, there's a multiple jobs worksheet or you can use their online calculator. If you're still thinking in terms of "claiming 0" you might be using outdated forms or concepts. The new W-4 has a specific section for multiple jobs that helps account for exactly your situation. Check if your employers are using the current form and if you've filled it out correctly for your multiple income streams.
That's really helpful - I didn't realize the W-4 had changed that much! I haven't actually updated my W-4 in about 3 years, so that could definitely be part of the problem. Is there a specific line or section on the new form I should pay attention to for my situation?
The most important part for your situation is Step 2 of the new W-4 form. It gives you three options for handling multiple jobs: (a) using their online calculator for most accuracy, (b) using the Multiple Jobs Worksheet on page 3 of the form, or (c) a simplified method if you have only two jobs with similar pay. Since you have three jobs with different pay levels, option (a) using the Tax Withholding Estimator on the IRS website would be your best bet. It's more detailed than the worksheet and will account for your specific situation. The calculator will tell you exactly what to put on line 4(c) of your W-4 for additional withholding. Just make sure you have recent pay stubs from all three jobs when you use it.
Has anyone mentioned the "two-earner/multiple job" worksheet yet? When I worked 3 part-time jobs during grad school, my tax person showed me this worksheet on the W-4. It helped a ton with calculating the right withholding. Not sure if it still exists with the new W-4 format tho.
The multiple jobs worksheet still exists but it's been revised. It's now part of Step 2 on the new W-4 form. It's actually more comprehensive than the old version but a bit more complicated to fill out. I found the online withholding calculator easier to use than the paper worksheet since it does all the calculations for you.
For future reference, whenever you start a second job mid-year, you should always adjust your W-4 withholding. There's a specific checkbox on the W-4 form for multiple jobs that helps account for this exact situation. Most people skip this section not realizing how important it is.
Is it too late to do anything about it for this year's taxes? Or am I just stuck with the lower refund?
For this year's taxes, you're unfortunately stuck with the current situation. The withholding already happened in 2024, and you can't retroactively change it. However, you can absolutely prevent this from happening again. Fill out a new W-4 for both jobs right away, making sure to check the multiple jobs box or complete the multiple jobs worksheet. This will ensure the proper amount is withheld going forward and you won't have another surprise next tax season.
Has anyone tried using a different tax software? Sometimes TurboTax can be confusing with how it displays refund changes. I switched to FreeTaxUSA last year and found it was much clearer about explaining why my refund amount changed when adding forms.
Something that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you're thinking about selling your home in the future, be careful with home office depreciation. When you sell, you'll have to "recapture" the depreciation you took on the business portion, even if you qualify for the primary residence exclusion on the rest of the home. I learned this the hard way!
Whoa I had no idea about the "recapture" thing! What exactly does that mean? Would we have to pay back all the tax savings from the depreciation when we sell the house?
You don't exactly "pay back" the tax savings, but the amount you depreciated gets taxed when you sell. For example, if you depreciated $20,000 of your home office over the years, that $20,000 would be subject to depreciation recapture tax (typically at 25%) when you sell, even if the rest of your home sale qualifies for the capital gains exclusion. So you'd pay around $5,000 in recapture tax on that $20,000 of depreciation. The benefit is that you got tax deductions spread over many years, which usually outweighs this future tax. This is why proper record-keeping is crucial - you need to track all the depreciation you claim to calculate this correctly when you eventually sell.
Question for anyone who uses TurboTax - where exactly do you input the home office info? I'm trying to help my sister with her taxes and she's confused about how to claim depreciation for the space she uses for her Etsy business.
In TurboTax, you enter it through the business income section under Schedule C. When you get to the expenses part, there's a specific section for "Business use of home." It'll ask for the total square footage of your home and the square footage used exclusively for business. Then it will walk you through either the simplified method (standard $5 per sq ft up to 300 sq ft) or the regular method where you enter actual expenses including depreciation.
One thing nobody mentioned yet - make sure you have a solid Operating Agreement that specifies how profits and losses are allocated. Without this, the IRS assumes equal distribution regardless of who contributed what. Also, consider if you want to make a special allocation for tax purposes. For example, if one partner contributed more startup capital, you might want to allocate more of the initial losses to them (if applicable). But be aware that special allocations need to have "substantial economic effect" to be respected by the IRS. This gets complicated fast, so you might want professional help with this part.
We do have an operating agreement, but it's pretty basic and just says we split everything equally. Is that sufficient? Also, what exactly is "substantial economic effect" and how do we know if our allocations meet that requirement?
Your basic agreement splitting everything equally is actually the simplest approach for IRS purposes, so that's fine. "Substantial economic effect" is the IRS's way of ensuring that tax allocations reflect economic reality. Basically, tax benefits should go to the partner who actually bears the economic burden or receives the economic benefit. For example, if your agreement said Partner A gets 90% of the tax losses but only 10% of the actual profits when you sell or liquidate the business, the IRS would likely reject that as lacking substantial economic effect. The partner getting the tax benefits must also bear the economic consequences. When you allocate everything equally, this usually isn't an issue unless you have complex arrangements like guaranteed payments or preferred returns.
Has anyone handled QBI (Qualified Business Income) deduction with partnerships? My accountant says partnership income qualifies but I'm confused about how it passes through to personal returns.
Yes, partnership income can qualify for the QBI deduction (Section 199A). The partnership doesn't take the deduction itself - it's calculated and claimed on each partner's individual return based on their share of qualified business income. The partnership will provide information on each partner's K-1 about qualified business income, W-2 wages paid by the business, and qualified property. Partners then use this information on Form 8995 or 8995-A on their personal returns to calculate their deduction. The deduction can be up to 20% of QBI, subject to limitations based on taxable income, business type, and W-2 wages/qualified property.
Zara Rashid
Just wanted to add another approach - I use an HSA that offers a debit card AND a reimbursement option. I intentionally pay for most medical expenses with my cash-back credit card, then submit the receipt for reimbursement through my HSA provider's website. This way I get the cash back rewards on those purchases. Some HSA providers even have mobile apps where you can snap a picture of the receipt and submit it immediately. The reimbursement usually hits my bank account within 3-5 business days. Plus, if you're organized enough, you can actually leave that money in your HSA to grow tax-free and reimburse yourself years later. There's no time limit on when you have to reimburse yourself as long as the HSA was established when you incurred the medical expense!
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Luca Romano
ā¢Wait so you can just leave the money in there and let it grow even after you've already paid for the medical expenses? Wouldn't the IRS get suspicious if you suddenly reimburse yourself for expenses from like 5 years ago?
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Zara Rashid
ā¢Yes, that's one of the best features of HSAs! There's no deadline for reimbursing yourself. You could pay for qualified medical expenses out-of-pocket today, keep careful records, and then reimburse yourself from your HSA 10 years from now if you wanted. The IRS doesn't get suspicious as long as you have proper documentation. Just make sure you keep your receipts and records showing the expense was HSA-eligible and occurred after your HSA was established. Some people intentionally do this as a strategy to let their HSA investments grow tax-free for longer. Just remember that you can't claim those same medical expenses as itemized deductions if you plan to reimburse yourself with HSA funds later.
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Nia Jackson
PSA for anyone using HSAs: The IRS has a complete list of what counts as HSA eligible expenses in Publication 502. Things many people don't realize qualify: chiropractor visits, acupuncture, prescription sunglasses, pregnancy tests, smoking cessation programs, and even mileage driving to medical appointments!
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StarStrider
ā¢Thanks for mentioning that! I had no idea mileage to medical appointments could count as an HSA eligible expense. Do you know if I need any special documentation for claiming mileage? And what about parking fees at medical facilities?
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