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Another approach is to use the Multiple Jobs Worksheet on the W4 if both you and your wife work. When I was getting big refunds, it turned out I needed to check the box in Step 2(c) since my wife and I both have similar incomes. Made a huge difference in our withholding.
The problem with checking that box is it often withholds too much if your incomes aren't exactly equal. I found it better to use the irs withholding calculator online and follow its recommendations instead of the worksheet.
That's a fair point. The checkbox method is definitely a rough estimate. The calculator is more precise, especially if one spouse makes significantly more than the other. I've found the worksheet reasonable when our incomes are within about 20% of each other, but anything beyond that and the calculator is definitely the way to go.
Be careful about cutting it too close to $0. I tried that last year and ended up owing $800 plus a small penalty because I didn't have enough withheld. Maybe aim for a small refund of $500-1000 just to be safe?
This is good advice. I target about $500 refund as a buffer. Also remember that if you owe more than $1000 at tax time AND didn't have at least 90% of your tax liability withheld throughout the year (or 100% of last year's tax), you could face underpayment penalties.
Here's another angle - check if the 1099-NEC might actually be reporting royalty payments or some kind of intellectual property compensation related to her union work from years ago. Some union contracts include residual payments for work products that continue to generate value. If that's the case, it would be reported on Schedule E, not Schedule C, and wouldn't qualify as earned income for EITC but also wouldn't be subject to self-employment tax. The chain preparer was definitely doing something questionable by having her pay SE tax if she wasn't actually self-employed during the tax year.
How would you determine if it's royalty income vs. other types of payments? The 1099-NEC doesn't really specify the nature of the payment, just the amount.
You'd need to look at supporting documentation from the union explaining the nature of the payments. Ask your client for any letters, statements, or the original agreement with the union that established these payments. The description might use terms like "residuals," "royalties," or "use of intellectual property." Also check Box 1 of the 1099-NEC to see if there's any description near the amount. Some payers will include a brief memo there. If there's nothing there, your client should contact the union's benefits office directly and ask for a written explanation of what these payments represent.
This might be an ongoing benefits payment from the union. My brother gets something similar - it's part of his pension arrangement but gets reported on 1099-NEC for some reason. It's definitely not earned income and shouldn't be subject to SE tax. The tax chain was 100% taking advantage of your client. They were artificially boosting the refund with improper EITC to make their fee seem worth it. That's really predatory especially for someone on limited income.
Another option you might want to consider is a Charitable Remainder Trust (CRT). You contribute the appreciated asset to the trust, get an immediate partial tax deduction, and the trust sells the asset tax-free. The trust then pays you an income stream for life or a set period, and the remainder goes to charity when the trust ends. The math can work out quite well if you're planning to hold the asset long-term anyway. I did this with some tech stocks that had appreciated 1000% and it saved me a ton in capital gains while providing steady income.
Would this work for crypto? I've got some ETH that's gone up like crazy and I'm trying to figure out how to cash some out without giving half to Uncle Sam.
Yes, it can work for cryptocurrency. The key is that the trust sells it after you've donated it, so the trust itself doesn't pay capital gains tax on the appreciation. You'll need to find a trustee comfortable with handling crypto assets though, as some traditional trustees aren't familiar with the process. Keep in mind that you're ultimately giving a portion to charity - this isn't a strategy to avoid taxes completely while keeping all the money. But the tax benefits plus the income stream can make the math very favorable compared to just selling and paying capital gains tax directly.
Has anyone actually tried the S-Corp to Wyoming LLC to trust strategy the OP mentioned? I've heard claims that Wyoming entities provide strong asset protection, but I'm skeptical about the tax benefits. Seems like the IRS would see through this pretty quickly.
I looked into something similar for my business. The Wyoming LLC part can work for privacy and some liability protection, but it doesn't magically change your tax situation. The IRS follows the money regardless of how many entities you put in between. And trying to loan yourself money through your own entities gets really tricky really fast.
Have you looked into filing Schedule C with your taxes? When I was a contractor, I was able to deduct a ton of expenses related to my work - part of my internet bill, phone, computer depreciation, even a portion of rent for my home office space. The self-employment taxes still suck (that 15.3% hits hard), but deductions can really bring down your taxable income. Don't forget to look into the Qualified Business Income deduction too - it lets you deduct 20% of your net profit in most cases.
Thanks for this! Would I just list "temp worker" as my business on the Schedule C? And for the home office, do I need to have a dedicated room or can it be like a desk in my bedroom? I'm worried about getting audited if I claim too much.
You can list "Telecommunications Contractor" or something similar as your business. For home office, the IRS prefers a dedicated space, but it doesn't have to be an entire room - a dedicated desk area that's used regularly and exclusively for work can qualify. Just measure that specific area for your deduction calculation. Don't worry too much about an audit if you're claiming legitimate expenses. Just keep good records of your expenses and be reasonable with your deductions. For example, don't claim 100% of your internet if you also use it for personal stuff - 30-50% is more reasonable depending on how much you use it for work.
Regardless of the contractor situation, make sure you're setting aside money for next year's taxes! This was my biggest mistake when I first started getting 1099 income. You should be making quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid penalties.
Liam O'Sullivan
Going back to the original question - a key thing to understand is that the 1099-R reports distributions in the year they're actually distributed, not necessarily when you requested them. If your 1099-R is dated 2024, that means the financial institution is reporting to the IRS that they distributed the money to you in 2024, so you definitely need to report it on your 2024 tax return (which you'll file in 2025). If TurboTax is suggesting otherwise, it might be confusing a rollover situation with a taxable distribution. Did you roll this money into another retirement account within 60 days, or did you keep the money?
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Ethan Brown
ā¢Thanks for this explanation! I didn't roll it over, I cashed it out completely (I know, probably not the smartest financial move, but I needed the money for some home repairs). So it sounds like I should definitely be reporting this on my 2024 taxes regardless of what TurboTax is saying? I'm wondering if I somehow answered one of their questions wrong during the interview process.
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Liam O'Sullivan
ā¢Yes, you absolutely need to report it on your 2024 taxes (filed in 2025). Since you cashed it out completely and didn't roll it over, it's a taxable distribution in the year it was distributed. I suspect you might have accidentally indicated it was a rollover when answering TurboTax's questions, or there might be some other confusion in how you're navigating the software. I'd recommend starting over with entering that 1099-R and carefully reading each question. If TurboTax still gives you the same guidance, you should contact their support because that would definitely be incorrect advice for your situation.
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Amara Chukwu
Also make sure you're using the correct year's TurboTax software! If you accidentally started your return in last year's version (2023), it might be telling you to wait until "next year" (meaning 2024) because the withdrawal date you entered is in 2024. The version of TurboTax you should be using right now for a 2024 1099-R is the 2024 version (which would typically be labeled as TurboTax 2024, for filing in 2025).
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Giovanni Conti
ā¢This is a really good point! I've made this exact mistake before. The tax software naming conventions can be super confusing because they're labeled with the tax year, not the year you're using them in.
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