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Everyone's focused on the tax rates, but don't forget about other advantages of S-corps. The ability to minimize self-employment taxes by taking a reasonable salary plus distributions is huge. I save about $7,500 annually just from properly structuring my compensation this way compared to when I was a sole proprietor. Also, with an S-corp you can still contribute to a Solo 401k based on your salary, which helps reduce your taxable income significantly. The C-corp has other issues like accumulated earnings tax if you try to keep too much money in the business.

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Luca Russo

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What's a good ratio of salary to distributions that won't trigger IRS concerns? I've heard different things from different sources.

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There's no fixed percentage that's universally "safe" as the IRS looks at what's reasonable for your industry, experience, and business circumstances. A common approach is researching what comparable positions in your industry would pay and documenting that research. For many service businesses, I've seen recommendations ranging from 50-70% of profits as salary being reasonable, but it varies widely. Healthcare professionals often need higher salary percentages while capital-intensive businesses might justify lower percentages. The key is having solid documentation for whatever number you choose.

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Andre Moreau

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As a point of clarification, the 12% bracket you mentioned would only apply to a portion of your income anyway. Tax brackets are marginal, so you're not paying one single rate on all income. With your current W2 of 72k plus business income of 50-65k, you'd be well into the 22% bracket regardless of how you structure things.

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Zoe Stavros

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This! So many people don't understand marginal tax rates and make decisions based on completely wrong assumptions. OP needs to look at effective tax rate across all income, not just the highest bracket they hit.

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Niko Ramsey

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I think your boss is trying to avoid paying employer taxes. When he pays you in cash and doesn't report it, he's not paying his share of Social Security and Medicare taxes. Just to be clear - if you were actually an employee (not a contractor), your boss should have been giving you a W-2, not a 1099. The difference matters because: - W-2: Employer pays half of Social Security/Medicare taxes - 1099: You pay ALL Social Security/Medicare taxes yourself (self-employment tax) You might want to look at Form SS-8 to determine if you should have been classified as an employee rather than a contractor. If you were misclassified, the IRS can go after your employer for their share of taxes.

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Cole Roush

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Thanks for bringing this up - I honestly wasn't sure if I should have been getting a W-2 or 1099. My job involves framing houses and doing general construction work. I use their tools, work on their schedule, and they tell me exactly what to do and how to do it. Does that sound more like an employee situation?

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Niko Ramsey

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Based on what you've described, you sound much more like an employee than an independent contractor. The key factors the IRS looks at include: who controls when and how you work, who provides tools and equipment, how you're paid (regular wages vs. project-based), and whether the work is a key part of the business. Using their tools, working on their schedule, and having them direct your work are all strong indicators of employee status. Construction workers doing the core work of a construction company are typically employees unless there's a specific arrangement that gives the worker significant independence.

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Similar thing happened to me last year. My side gig didn't send a 1099 and kept putting me off. Here's what I did: 1. Filed my taxes anyway using my own records of what I earned (cash payment records + deposit slips) 2. Reported the income on Schedule C 3. Kept really good documentation of my attempts to get the 1099 (emails, texts, etc) 4. Submitted Form 8919 "Uncollected Social Security and Medicare Tax on Wages" since I suspected I was misclassified The biggest thing is don't wait to file! The April deadline (or October with extension) is for YOU, not your employer. Their failure to provide docs doesn't extend your filing deadline.

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Jabari-Jo

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Did you run into any issues with the IRS after filing this way? I'm in a similar situation and worried they'll come after me for something that wasn't my fault.

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Logan Scott

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - consider setting up an LLC or S-Corp once you're established! I waited two years before doing this and regret it. As an S-Corp, you can pay yourself a reasonable salary and take the rest as distributions, which aren't subject to self-employment tax. Saved me about $7,500 last year alone. Talk to a CPA about when this makes sense for you - usually around $80-100k is when the savings outweigh the extra paperwork and fees.

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Chloe Green

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Doesn't setting up an S-Corp mean you have to run payroll and deal with a bunch of extra filings though? Is it really worth the hassle?

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Logan Scott

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Yes, with an S-Corp you do need to run payroll (even if it's just for yourself) and there are additional tax forms and requirements. You'll need to file Form 1120-S for the corporation, issue yourself a W-2, and potentially make quarterly payroll tax deposits. The breakeven point varies by situation, but generally if you're making over $80-100K in profit, the self-employment tax savings usually outweigh the extra costs and hassle. I pay about $800/year for payroll services and additional accounting fees, but save around $7,500 in taxes. For me, it's definitely worth it, but everyone's situation is different. It's definitely something to consider once your business is stable, not necessarily right away.

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Lucas Adams

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Quick tip if you're just starting out - open a separate checking account for your business transactions right away! I mixed personal and business in the same account my first year and tax time was a complete nightmare trying to sort it all out.

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Harper Hill

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Yessss! This saved me so much trouble. And get a separate credit card for business expenses too. Makes everything so much cleaner come tax time.

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Lucas Adams

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Thanks for the credit card tip! I actually have a dedicated business credit card now too, and it makes categorizing expenses so much easier. Most cards even give you year-end summaries by category which is super helpful for Schedule C. Plus you can often get better rewards on business cards for things like office supplies or internet services.

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Ethan Wilson

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet is that commercial EV credits are structured differently than personal ones. For commercial vehicles, it's calculated as the lesser of: (1) 30% of the vehicle's cost, or (2) the incremental cost between the EV and a comparable gas vehicle. But there's a cap of $7,500 for vehicles under 14,000 lbs and up to $40,000 for heavier commercial vehicles. Also, the commercial credit is non-refundable but can offset AMT, while the personal credit is now potentially refundable at point of sale.

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NeonNova

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Thanks for explaining this! I'm confused about the "incremental cost" part though. How exactly is that calculated? Does the IRS provide specific comparisons somewhere of EV vs gas vehicle costs?

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Ethan Wilson

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The incremental cost calculation is indeed one of the more confusing aspects. The IRS hasn't provided an official database of comparisons, which leaves it somewhat open to interpretation. Generally, you'd need to identify a comparable gas-powered vehicle with similar features and capacity, then calculate the price difference. For many passenger vehicles and light trucks, the 30% calculation usually results in an amount exceeding $7,500, so you'll often just get the maximum $7,500 credit. The incremental cost calculation becomes more relevant for specialty commercial vehicles where the EV premium might be less pronounced or for vehicles over 14,000 lbs where the higher credit limit applies.

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Yuki Tanaka

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Just wanted to share my experience - I purchased a Rivian R1T last month through my landscaping business after researching both credit options. The dealer actually suggested I go the commercial route because the truck wouldn't qualify for the full personal credit due to its price and battery sourcing. Best decision ever! The paperwork was straightforward, I got the full $7,500 credit, and I didn't have to worry about all those personal credit restrictions. Just make sure your business legitimately needs the vehicle. I use mine to visit client properties and haul equipment, which makes it a genuine business expense.

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Carmen Diaz

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Did you have to make any modifications to the truck to qualify it as a business vehicle? I've heard some people say you need commercial insurance or special registration for it to count.

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I just wanted to add something that might be helpful. Make sure you're keeping track of ALL your qualified education expenses. The American Opportunity Credit isn't just for tuition - it also covers required books, supplies, and equipment. My university only reported tuition on my 1098-T, but I was able to add another $950 in textbooks and required lab materials that I paid for out-of-pocket. That increased my credit by almost $240! Just make sure you keep your receipts in case of an audit.

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Do digital textbooks and access codes count too? Almost all my "textbooks" are actually digital access codes that my professors require us to buy for online homework systems. Does the IRS consider those qualified expenses for the American Opportunity Credit?

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Yes, digital textbooks and required access codes absolutely count as qualified education expenses! The IRS doesn't distinguish between physical and digital textbooks as long as they're required for your courses. Those online homework system access codes are specifically mentioned in IRS guidance as qualifying expenses when they're required for your coursework. Just make sure you keep digital receipts or confirmation emails showing your purchases. These expenses can significantly increase your credit amount when they're not included on your 1098-T.

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NeonNova

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - there's an income limit for the American Opportunity Credit. For 2024 taxes (filed in 2025), the credit starts phasing out at $80,000 for single filers ($160,000 for married filing jointly) and completely phases out at $90,000 ($180,000 for joint). Since you mentioned making only about $8,500, you're well below the limit, so you should be eligible for the full credit amount assuming you meet all the other requirements!

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Super helpful info about the income limits! Quick question though - does money received from foreign parents count toward that income limit? OP mentioned getting money from parents abroad, and I'm in a similar situation getting about $15K yearly from my parents in Korea plus my $12K campus job income.

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