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Has anyone tried filing for trader status themselves or do most people use a CPA? I use tax software for everything else but not sure it can handle this.

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Mei Chen

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I tried doing it myself with TurboTax and it was a disaster. Ended up hiring a CPA midway through. The software doesn't really guide you through the election process properly, and there are a ton of forms and schedules involved.

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I actually did it successfully with H&R Block's premium online version. It was tricky, but they have a section specifically for business income that worked for reporting trader status. You need to file Schedule C for your trading business expenses and then make the Section 475(f) election with a separate written statement. The key is reporting it as a business, not just investment income.

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If you're options trading, make sure you understand the special tax treatment for different types of options. Cash-settled index options (like SPX) are taxed as 60% long-term/40% short-term regardless of holding period under Section 1256. Regular equity options don't get this treatment. Some traders actually use a mix of Section 1256 contracts and regular options specifically for tax advantages. Might be worth looking into alongside the trader status election.

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This is super important! I trade both SPX options and individual stock options, and the tax difference is huge. My SPX gains automatically get preferential tax treatment. Saved me about $11,000 last year by shifting more of my trading to index options.

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As someone who's worked in tax preparation for years, I want to add that the timing also depends on WHEN you file. Early filers (late January/early February) often get their refunds faster than the 21-day estimate. But if you file in late March/early April when everyone else is rushing to meet the deadline, processing times typically get longer due to volume. Also, make sure you check your bank account regularly, not just the IRS tracker. Sometimes the money shows up before the tracker updates!

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Kyle Wallace

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Thanks for the insight! I filed last week (mid-February), so hopefully that's early enough to avoid the big rush? Would it make a difference that my return is super simple - just one W-2 from my job at a restaurant? No dependents or anything complicated.

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Mid-February is a good time to file - you've missed the initial January rush but are well ahead of the April crunch. With a simple return with just one W-2 and no complicated credits or deductions, you're definitely in the "should be closer to 21 days or less" category. Simple returns with direct deposit are the fastest to process. The IRS prioritizes straightforward returns because they can be largely automated. I'd say there's a good chance you'll see your refund within 14-18 days, barring any unexpected issues. Just make sure to check both the tracker and your bank account regularly.

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I filed for the first time last year and got my refund in exactly 13 days. My brother filed the same day and waited 6 weeks. We couldn't figure out why until he checked his tax credit stuff and realized he claimed some education credit that triggers extra review. So sometimes it's totally random and sometimes there's a specific reason.

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Mia Green

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This!!! The education credits seem to slow things down every time. I used American Opportunity Credit last year and it took FOREVER. This year I didn't have any education expenses and got my refund in 9 days!

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AstroAce

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Quick tip from experience: When you leave a job, ask for your final paystub and KEEP IT! Each January, compare your final paystubs from all employers with the W-2s they send you. Make sure the numbers match up. Last year my former employer's W-2 was missing about $2,400 in income and $380 in withholding that showed on my final paystub. Would've paid more taxes than I needed to if I hadn't caught it!

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Chloe Martin

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What do you do if you find a discrepancy between your final paystub and W-2? Do you contact the old employer or the IRS?

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AstroAce

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You should first contact the employer's payroll department to point out the discrepancy and request a corrected W-2 (called a W-2c). Most errors are honest mistakes they'll fix once you show them the proof from your paystub. If they refuse or don't respond after a couple of attempts, then you should contact the IRS. You'll file Form 4852 (Substitute for W-2) with your tax return, using your paystub information as verification. Keep copies of all your communication with the employer showing you tried to resolve it first. The IRS may contact your employer about the discrepancy.

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Diego Rojas

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Since noone has mentioned it, you should check if your YTD deductions on current paystub shows the correct Social Security tax amount. The limit for 2025 is $168,600, so if your combined jobs exceed that amount, you might be overpaying now but would get that back when filing taxes.

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But isn't it actually good to have too much withheld? I always try to get a big refund so I don't owe anything at tax time.

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Ella Lewis

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Random tax tip that might help others: Always round UP to the nearest dollar when making tax payments. The IRS allows this on forms, and it ensures you're never underpaid by cents. I've been doing this for 15 years and never had an underpayment issue.

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Does this actually work for electronic payments too? I always pay exact amounts when I do direct debit through tax software.

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What's even more ridiculous is that it probably cost the IRS more than $85 in employee time and resources to process this notice and handle your call. Talk about government inefficiency!

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Ethan Scott

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Just to add some practical advice from someone who's been through the AMT credit process: KEEP DETAILED RECORDS! I exercised ISOs in 2016, paid AMT, then had issues claiming my credit in 2018 because I couldn't properly document everything. Make sure you keep: 1. Copy of Form 6251 from the year(s) you paid AMT 2. Documentation of your ISO exercise (statements from your company/broker) 3. Records of when you sell the shares (this matters for when credits become available) 4. Copies of any Form 8801 you file in subsequent years

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Lola Perez

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How long did it take you to actually get your AMT credit back? I paid a huge AMT bill in 2020 and I'm wondering if I'll ever see that money again.

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Ethan Scott

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It took me about three years to get most of it back. The first year after paying AMT, my regular tax wasn't high enough to use the full credit. The second year I got about 40% of it back, and the third year I was able to use the remaining credit. How quickly you recover the AMT depends entirely on your regular tax liability in future years. If you have high regular tax, you can potentially use the full credit in one year. Many people take several years to fully recover their AMT payments.

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Has anyone here used TurboTax to handle the AMT credit from ISOs? I'm having a hard time figuring out if it's tracking my credits properly.

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Riya Sharma

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I've used TurboTax for this situation and it works fine if you use the same software each year. It carries forward your AMT info automatically. But if you switch between tax software or preparers, that's where things get messy because you need to manually enter previous year information.

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