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Pro tip: Check the 1040 instructions page on the IRS.gov website for the specific tax year you're filing. The Schedule 3 instructions are actually in a separate PDF from the main 1040 instructions. The IRS splits up their instruction documents to make them "more manageable" but it just makes everything harder to find. Here's what to do: 1. Go to IRS.gov 2. Search for "Schedule 3 instructions" plus the tax year 3. Download that specific PDF 4. Line 7 instructions will be in there
Is there a way to search within the PDFs themselves? I always struggle finding specific line references even when I have the right document.
Yes! Once you download the PDF, open it and use Ctrl+F (or Command+F on Mac) to search for keywords. For this specific example, you could search for "line 7" or "fuel tax" to jump right to the relevant section. Another trick I use is the IRS's Interactive Tax Assistant on their website. It's not perfect but can sometimes guide you to the right forms and instructions better than just browsing their site.
Schedule 3, line 7 is for Form 4136 (fuel tax credit) which most regular people don't need to worry about. But I wanted to mention - if you're using tax software and it's highlighting this for review, sometimes you just need to click through and confirm you don't have this credit to apply. I use TurboTax and it does this annoying thing where it flags certain sections as "needs review" even when they don't apply to me. You just have to click through and explicitly tell it "no, I don't have this" for it to stop bugging you about it.
Thanks for this! You're right - I went back to my tax software and just clicked "No" on the question about fuel tax credits, and it stopped highlighting that section. I was overthinking it and assumed I needed to find some special instructions. Feeling pretty silly now lol.
One thing that helped me understand this better was thinking of the tax brackets as buckets that fill up. Each bucket has a different tax rate: For 2023 Married Filing Jointly: $0-$22,000: 10% bucket $22,001-$89,450: 12% bucket $89,451-$190,750: 22% bucket And so on... If you and your spouse each make $60,000, individually you'd only fill up the 10% and part of the 12% bucket. But combined ($120,000), you fill the 10% bucket, the entire 12% bucket, and spill into the 22% bucket. The problem is that when your employer withholds based on "married filing jointly" without knowing about your spouse's income, they think you only need to fill those first two buckets. That's why you're underwithholding.
This bucket analogy is super helpful - I've never thought about it that way before! So if we each make about $65k, we're definitely spilling into that 22% bucket when combined. Would checking that box in Step 2(c) on our W4s like someone mentioned above fix this issue completely, or would we still need to do some additional withholding?
If you both make around $65k, checking the box in Step 2(c) on both your W4s should fix most of the issue. That essentially tells your employers to withhold at the higher single rate, which accounts for having two similar incomes. For even more accuracy, I'd recommend running your numbers through the IRS Withholding Estimator online. Have your latest paystubs handy. The calculator will tell you exactly what to put on line 4(c) if any additional withholding is needed beyond checking that box. Some people find they need a little extra withholding even with the box checked, especially if you have other income sources or particular deductions.
Just want to add that you don't want to select "married filing separately" on your W4 like you suggested. That's actually a specific tax filing status with its own tax brackets, and it's usually less favorable than married filing jointly. Many tax credits and deductions aren't available when you file separately. What you want is to either: 1. Check the box in Step 2(c) on the W4 form 2. Use the "Multiple Jobs Worksheet" on page 3 of the W4 3. Use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator online and follow its recommendations Also, it's not as simple as "gross salary minus 22%" because the US has a progressive tax system. You pay 10% on the first chunk of income, then 12% on the next chunk, then 22% on income above that threshold.
I've filed taxes for 15 years and here's what I've noticed with refund timing: - Simple returns (just W-2 income): Usually 7-14 days - Self-employment/1099 income: 14-21 days - Any amended returns: 8-12 WEEKS (not days!) - EITC/Child Tax Credit: Not before mid-February, then 14-21 days - Large refunds ($5000+): Sometimes 1-3 days longer but not significantly The biggest factor is filing early - my Jan 31 returns always process faster than when I wait until March.
Have you noticed any difference between tax prep software? Like does using TurboTax vs H&R Block vs FreeTaxUSA change how fast the IRS processes things?
I haven't noticed any consistent difference in processing speed between tax software options. I've used TurboTax, H&R Block, and FreeTaxUSA over the years, and the refund timing seemed to depend much more on when I filed and what was on my return rather than which software I used. All the major tax software providers use the same electronic filing system to submit to the IRS, so once your return is accepted, the processing time should be the same regardless of which program you used to prepare it. The IRS doesn't prioritize returns based on which software was used.
anyone else notice that the "Where's My Refund" tool is SUPER unhelpful? it's been saying "Your return is being processed" for 2 weeks now with no other details. like thanks IRS, i already knew that lol. wish it would at least tell you where in the process it is or if there's a problem.
Don't ignore the 1099-Q! The IRS already has a copy so they'll flag your return if you don't address it. First, call the institution that issued the form - their contact info should be on it. Ask them for details about who established the account and when the distribution was made. It might be a 529 plan you didn't know existed (maybe set up when you were younger).
I had this exact situation! My grandparents had apparently set up a 529 for me as a baby and never told my parents. Years later, the distributions started going to my university. Check with extended family members too - might be a surprise gift someone forgot to mention.
That's a great point about checking with extended family! Sometimes these accounts are set up as surprises or the person who created it might have forgotten to mention distributions were starting. Another thing to consider is that the amount might be higher than your tuition because it could include room and board, books, supplies, and other qualified expenses. The 529 administrator might have sent a distribution that covered more than just the direct tuition bills.
Be careful about assuming all of a 1099-Q is non-taxable. I learned this the hard way... If any part was used for non-qualified expenses or if your scholarships covered the qualified expenses that the 529 was also used for, you could owe taxes on some of it.
This happened to me. My scholarships covered most of my tuition, but my parents still distributed funds from my 529 plan. We ended up having to pay taxes on a portion because you can't double-dip on tax benefits. Definitely worth getting professional help to sort it out.
Lukas Fitzgerald
Just wanted to add that if you do let the mother claim the child, make sure you have a written agreement about it. My buddy got screwed because he verbally agreed to let his ex claim their kid, but then she refused to split the refund like they'd agreed. Without anything in writing, he had no recourse.
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Ev Luca
ā¢Can you actually enforce something like that legally though? I thought tax benefits were separate from custody agreements?
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Lukas Fitzgerald
ā¢You absolutely can include tax arrangements in your custody agreement, and the court can enforce it. Many parenting plans specifically address who claims the child in which years (alternating, always one parent, etc). If it's not in your custody order yet, you can still create a separate written agreement. While not as strong as a court order, it's still evidence of your agreement if there's a dispute later. Some parents even use a service like Our Family Wizard to document these agreements, which gives them more weight since the communication is timestamped and can't be altered later.
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Avery Davis
Im wondering how this affects state taxes too? Does letting the mother claim your kid on federal mean she also has to claim on state return? Or can you split it?
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Collins Angel
ā¢No, you can't split federal and state. Most states require your filing status and dependents to match your federal return. It would raise red flags if two different people claimed the same kid on federal vs state returns.
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