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Received IRS tax bill from 10 years ago - can I contest as an expat who never earned US income?

I just got hit with a notice from the IRS claiming I owe around $4,000 in taxes from unreported investment sales back in 2014. When I called them, they said I sold some investments that year (which my bank reported to the IRS) and I supposedly should have paid taxes on these gains. I was in my early 20s then and honestly had no clue I needed to pay taxes on this - I thought it was just education money! With interest over the years, it's now around $4,000. The IRS representative insisted they've been sending me notices every single year since 2014, but this is literally the first notice I've ever received about this issue. Even this notice was sent to my old address and only reached me because the people living there were nice enough to forward it. What's weird is the IRS clearly has my current address since I got my economic impact payment at my correct address earlier this year. Is there any way to fight this? I'm willing to pay the original tax amount if I legitimately owe it, but the interest seems unfair when they never properly notified me. I'm especially wondering if I even owe this tax at all since I've been an expat for nearly 20 years and have never earned any income in the US. For context: I left the US at 18 to study in Europe and never moved back. I've filed US taxes nearly every year since, always showing zero US income (either as a student with no income or using the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion). The investments I sold in 2014 were from an account my parents set up for my education. I liquidated it and moved the money to accounts outside the US to pay for my schooling. I'm a dual citizen now with no plans to return to the US. I'm seriously considering renouncing my US citizenship since it only creates hassles - it takes me longer to file US taxes (reporting zero income) than it does in the country where I actually live!

Have you considered requesting a transcript of your account from the IRS? It would show all correspondence they claim to have sent and might help your case if there are gaps or inconsistencies. You can request it online through the IRS website or by submitting Form 4506-T. Also, investment income is definitely taxable even for expats - the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion only applies to earned income like wages or self-employment income, not capital gains. But if these were educational funds in a specific type of account like a 529 plan and used for qualified education expenses, that's a different story.

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Benjamin Kim

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Thanks for this suggestion! I didn't even know I could request a transcript. Would this show if they actually sent notices or just that they generated them? Because if they generated notices but sent them to the wrong address, I'd think that still supports my case.

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The transcript would show when notices were generated and what address they were sent to. This can be crucial evidence if you're claiming lack of notification - if the transcript shows they were sending notices to an outdated address while having your current address on file for other purposes (like your stimulus payment), that strongly supports your argument. The transcript also shows exactly what type of investment was reported and the amount of gain calculated, which might help you determine if there were any special exemptions that could apply based on the nature of the educational fund.

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Sophia Carson

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Did anyone mention the Taxpayer Advocate Service? They're an independent organization within the IRS that helps taxpayers resolve problems. This seems like exactly the kind of case they could help with - especially since there appears to be an issue with the IRS not properly notifying you despite having your correct address for other purposes. Their service is free and they have significant authority to cut through red tape. Just google "Taxpayer Advocate Service" and you'll find their contact info.

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Elijah Knight

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I second this! The Taxpayer Advocate Service helped me when I had a similar issue with incorrect notices. They assigned me a specific advocate who dealt with the IRS on my behalf. Saved me so much time and headache.

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Chris Elmeda

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Just an important note that people often miss: these inflation adjustments don't just affect tax brackets and standard deductions. They also impact contribution limits for retirement accounts, income thresholds for various credits (like the Child Tax Credit), HSA contribution limits, and a bunch of other things. For example, for 2024, 401(k) contribution limits went up to $23,000 (from $22,500) and IRA contribution limits increased to $7,000 (from $6,500) if you're under 50. So when planning your finances, remember to look at ALL the inflation adjustments, not just the tax brackets!

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Jean Claude

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Do the adjustments also apply to income limits for Roth IRA contributions? I'm right at the cutoff and wondering if I can still contribute for 2024.

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Chris Elmeda

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Yes, the income limits for Roth IRA contributions also increased for 2024. The phase-out range for single filers is now $146,000 to $161,000 (up from $138,000 to $153,000 in 2023). For married filing jointly, it's $230,000 to $240,000 (up from $218,000 to $228,000). So if you were right at the cutoff before, you might now be under the threshold thanks to these adjustments. This is exactly why these inflation adjustments are so important - they prevent "bracket creep" across all aspects of the tax code, not just the income tax brackets themselves.

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Charity Cohan

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Does anyone know if the tax filing deadline is still April 15 for the 2024 tax year? With all these changes I'm confused about when we actually need to file.

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Josef Tearle

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Yes, the standard filing deadline for your 2024 taxes (which you'll file in 2025) is still April 15, 2025. The inflation adjustments only affect the tax brackets, deductions, and credits - not the filing deadlines.

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Paolo Ricci

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Don't forget about quarterly estimated tax payments! This was my biggest shock in my first year of business. Since you don't have an employer withholding taxes, you're supposed to make estimated tax payments every quarter. If this is your first year and you're filing late, you might face some penalties for not making those payments. But going forward, try to set aside about 25-30% of your profits for taxes (including self-employment tax which is an extra 15.3%). I learned this the hard way and got hit with a big tax bill plus penalties. Now I just automatically transfer 30% of every sale into a separate savings account for taxes.

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StarSailor

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Oh no, I had no idea about quarterly payments! So I should have been paying throughout 2024 already? How do I even calculate how much to pay each quarter when my income varies so much month to month?

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Paolo Ricci

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Yes, you should have been making quarterly payments for 2024, but don't panic too much - first-time business owners often miss this. The payments are due in April, June, September, and January of the following year. For calculating the amount, you have a few options. The safest way is to pay 100% of your previous year's tax liability divided by four (or 110% if your income was over $150,000). Since this is your first year, you can estimate based on your projected annual profit. The IRS Form 1040-ES has worksheets to help you calculate this. If your income varies a lot, you can also use the "annualized income installment method" which lets you pay based on what you actually earned each quarter.

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Amina Toure

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If you're doing your Schedule C for the first time, definitely don't forget about the QBI deduction (Qualified Business Income). As a sole proprietor, you might qualify for a deduction of up to 20% of your net business income! It's on Form 8995. I missed this my first year and later realized I left money on the table. It's one of those newer deductions that a lot of first-time business owners aren't aware of.

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The QBI is huge! But doesn't it phase out at certain income levels? I think there are also limitations based on business type.

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Amina Toure

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You're right about the phase-outs, but they start pretty high - around $170,700 for single filers or $341,400 for married filing jointly (for 2024). Since OP mentioned making about $24,000, they should be well under the threshold. There are limitations for certain service businesses like law, medicine, consulting, etc., but a woodworking business making physical products would generally qualify without those restrictions. The basic calculation is straightforward for most small businesses under the income thresholds - typically 20% of your net Schedule C income.

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Debra Bai

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Don't overthink this - I've sent plenty of returns using Priority Mail with no issues. But make sure you're sending it to the CORRECT IRS address! The mailing address varies depending on your state and whether you're enclosing payment. Double-check on the IRS website before sending anything.

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Thanks for the reminder! I almost sent it to the address from last year's instructions without checking. Do you know if the processing time is affected by using priority vs certified mail?

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Debra Bai

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Processing time isn't affected by the shipping method you choose. Once your return reaches the IRS facility, it enters the same processing queue regardless of how it arrived. The only timing advantage with Priority Mail is that it typically arrives at the IRS 1-3 days faster than regular Certified Mail. What DOES affect processing time is the complexity and format of your return. Paper returns generally take 6-8 weeks minimum to process, compared to 2-3 weeks for electronic filing. Within paper returns, those with many schedules, attachments, or amendments tend to take longer as they often require manual review.

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Just wondering - have you considered scanning everything and e-filing instead? Even for prior year returns, there are options like TaxAct that still allow e-filing for previous tax years.

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Laura Lopez

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E-filing doesn't work for everything. I tried to e-file an amended return last year and the software wouldn't allow it because of some specific schedules I had to include. Some prior year returns also can't be e-filed after a certain date.

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Liam Murphy

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Make sure you look closely at the "examination report" from your audit (usually Form 4549) and compare it with the CP22. Sometimes the examination report shows the additional tax only, while the CP22 includes that PLUS penalties and interest. In my experience, it's usually not that they doubled the actual tax amount, but that they've added failure-to-pay penalties (usually 0.5% per month), accuracy-related penalties (20% of the unpaid tax), and interest (which compounds daily). These additions can significantly increase the total amount due.

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Thanks for this advice! I just pulled out my Form 4549 and compared it to the CP22. You're right that there are penalties listed on the CP22 that weren't on the examination report, but they only account for about $1,200 of the difference. There's still $1,550 unaccounted for, which seems to be an additional tax assessment that wasn't in our agreement.

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Liam Murphy

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That's concerning. When you and the auditor reached an agreement, you should have signed a form acknowledging the additional tax assessment. Check if you have a copy of this agreement - it's your strongest evidence. With that $1,550 unexplained difference, you should definitely contact the IRS promptly. When you call, ask specifically for the "examination department" and reference your audit case number. They should be able to pull the records and see what was actually agreed upon. Be prepared to fax or mail copies of your documentation showing the original agreed amount.

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Amara Okafor

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Make sure you're also checking the tax year on both documents! I once had a similar panic moment until I realized the CP22 was actually addressing BOTH my 2023 and 2024 tax years, while my audit agreement only covered 2024. Easy to miss this detail when you're stressed about the numbers.

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This is excellent advice. The IRS often combines multiple issues in a single notice, especially if they're doing a multi-year review. I've seen CP22s that reference adjustments from completely different issues all bundled together.

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