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Great question! I was in a similar situation last year. Yes, you absolutely need to report ALL income even without 1099s - the IRS expects you to report every dollar earned regardless of the forms you receive. Here's what I learned: You'll file a Schedule C for self-employment income and report your combined $1,640. The good news is you can deduct business expenses like mileage (67 cents per mile for 2025), phone usage, delivery bags, etc. These deductions can significantly reduce your tax liability. Don't forget you'll also need to file Schedule SE for self-employment tax (about 15.3% on your net earnings). One tip: Keep detailed records of everything - your app payment summaries, mileage logs, and receipts for any business expenses. The IRS may not require 1099s from the companies, but they still expect accurate reporting from you. Most tax software can handle this, but make sure to select the self-employment/business income sections when filing. You've got this!
Thanks for breaking this down so clearly! I'm just starting out with gig work myself and had no idea about the Schedule SE requirement. Quick question - when you say "net earnings" for the self-employment tax, does that mean after I subtract all my business deductions like mileage? So if I made $1,640 but had $800 in mileage deductions, I'd only pay the 15.3% on $840?
Exactly right! Yes, the 15.3% self-employment tax is calculated on your net earnings after business deductions. So in your example, you'd pay self-employment tax on the $840 ($1,640 - $800 in mileage deductions). Just make sure you're tracking your mileage accurately - you can deduct miles driven while available for work (apps turned on) even when not actively on a delivery. With gas prices and wear-and-tear on your vehicle, that mileage deduction at 67 cents per mile can really add up and save you quite a bit on taxes. The key is keeping good records throughout the year rather than trying to reconstruct everything at tax time. A simple mileage tracking app makes this much easier!
Just want to add another perspective here - I've been doing gig work for about 3 years now and learned this lesson the hard way my first year. Even though you didn't get 1099s, you absolutely must report that income. The IRS has ways of tracking payments from these platforms even when they don't issue forms. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier: start a simple spreadsheet right now to track everything for next year. Include date, platform, gross earnings, miles driven, and any expenses. It makes tax time SO much easier. Also, don't forget about other potential deductions beyond mileage - things like phone accessories (car mounts, chargers), insulated delivery bags, even a portion of your car insurance if you use your vehicle primarily for gig work. Every little bit helps reduce that tax burden! The self-employment tax can be a shock the first time (15.3% is no joke), but proper deduction tracking can really minimize the impact. Better to be safe and report everything correctly than deal with IRS issues later.
The Earned income tax credit calculation has some hidden gotchas that aren't obvious. Besides the earned income vs. other income distinction others mentioned, check if you have any foreign earned income or if you claimed foreign tax credits (Form 2555 or 1116). Those can disqualify you completely from the EITC even if you're below the income thresholds. Also, verify that TurboTax has the correct filing status. Sometimes it's easy to mess up when selecting Head of Household vs. Single with dependents, which affects the EITC calculation significantly.
I don't have any foreign income, so that's not the issue. But I'm wondering if maybe something else is affecting it? Does child support count toward earned income? I receive about $400/month for each kid but didn't think that counted as income for tax purposes.
You're right about child support - it doesn't count as taxable income and doesn't affect your earned income calculation for EITC purposes. That's definitely not the issue. Since you mentioned selling stocks for $12,000, another factor might be investment income. If you had other investment income besides the stock sale (interest, dividends, etc.) and the total investment income exceeds $11,500 for 2024, you could be disqualified from the EITC completely. Check if you have other investment income that, combined with any capital gains from your stock sale, might be pushing you toward that limit.
Has anyone noticed how the Earned income tax credit formula is so confusing? I spent hours going through the calculation worksheets and still couldn't figure out why my credit didn't match what I expected. The "phase-in" and "phase-out" ranges make it so complicated.
Yeah the EITC is one of the most complicated tax credits. The IRS has an EITC Assistant tool on their website that might help you calculate it more accurately than TurboTax. Google "IRS EITC Assistant" and it should come up. You answer questions about your situation and it estimates your credit amount.
Not an expert but my transcript looked similar last year. Turned out I had credits that covered most of what I thought I owed. Don't panic yet!
Hey Zoe! Based on what you're describing, this actually sounds like good news for you! That "Statement Showing Interest Income" means the IRS paid YOU interest - likely on a refund you received. When they owe you money and it takes time to process, they pay interest on that amount. The $46.79 is taxable income you need to report on your next tax return, but it's money that was paid TO you, not something you owe. The statement even says "THIS IS NOT A TAX BILL" and explains it shows interest paid to you. So breathe easy - you're not owing money here, you actually received interest income that you'll just need to include on your 2024 tax return!
This is super helpful! I was totally confused thinking I owed money but you're right - the statement literally says it's NOT a bill. So the $46.79 is just interest they paid me that I need to report as income next year? That's way better than what I was worried about! Thanks for breaking it down so clearly π
As someone who's been through multiple tax seasons, I want to emphasize how important it is to stay calm when you get these notices. The fact that you already received your refund is actually a good sign - it means the IRS processed your return without any immediate red flags that would have delayed your refund. One thing I'd add to all the great advice here is to keep documentation of everything. If HR Block is contacting you about an issue, save that email (after verifying it's legitimate), screenshot any messages in your online account, and keep notes of any phone conversations you have with them. If this does turn into something that needs to be corrected with the IRS later, having a paper trail of when you were first notified and how you responded can be really helpful. Also, don't beat yourself up about making mistakes on your return. The tax code is incredibly complex, and even professional tax preparers make errors sometimes. The education credit timing rules that you discovered are particularly tricky because they don't always align with when you actually pay the tuition. You handled this exactly right by verifying the email and addressing the issue proactively!
This is such excellent advice about documentation! I learned this the hard way a couple years ago when I had to deal with an IRS notice about a W-2 discrepancy. I wish I had kept better records of my initial communications with my tax preparer because by the time I needed to reference them months later, I couldn't find half the emails. The point about not beating yourself up over mistakes is so important too. I used to think that once I hit "submit" on my tax return, everything had to be perfect, but now I realize that corrections and clarifications are actually pretty normal part of the process. The education credit timing rules are definitely confusing - I made a similar mistake with claiming tuition for a course that technically started in the next tax year. It's really reassuring to hear from someone with experience that receiving your refund first is generally a good sign. That makes a lot of sense when you think about it - if there were major issues, they probably would have caught them before sending the money!
This entire discussion has been incredibly reassuring and educational! I've been dealing with tax anxiety for years, always worried that I'm going to make some catastrophic mistake that will get me in trouble with the IRS. Reading through everyone's experiences - especially learning that post-refund notices are becoming more routine due to improved IRS matching systems - has really helped put things in perspective. The multi-step verification approach that several people mentioned (logging into accounts directly, calling official numbers, checking mobile apps) is something I'm definitely going to use going forward. And Miguel's explanation about tax preparers acting as intermediaries makes so much sense - I always wondered why I'd get notices from my tax software company instead of directly from the IRS. One thing that really stands out to me is how supportive this community is. Instead of making people feel stupid for tax mistakes or for being cautious about potential scams, everyone's sharing practical advice and real experiences. The education credit timing issue seems to trip up a lot of people, so at least we know we're not alone in finding those rules confusing! Thanks to everyone who contributed - this is exactly the kind of helpful discussion that makes navigating tax season less stressful.
NeonNova
Has anyone done a partial Roth conversion to spread the tax hit over multiple years? I'm considering converting my traditional IRA in chunks to avoid jumping into a higher tax bracket all at once.
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Dylan Campbell
β’Yep, I've been doing $30k per year for the past 3 years. Keeps me from getting bumped into the next tax bracket and makes the tax bill manageable each year. You can also time it so you do the conversion in years when you might have other deductions to offset some of the income.
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McKenzie Shade
This is such a common source of confusion! I went through the exact same thing when I did my Roth conversion two years ago. The key thing to remember is that getting a refund doesn't mean you didn't pay taxes - it just means you overpaid through withholding and estimated payments. For the safe harbor rule, you're looking at your actual tax liability (line 24 on Form 1040), not whether you owed additional money or got a refund when you filed. So if your 2023 total tax was $8,000 but you had $9,200 withheld from your paychecks, you got a $1,200 refund. But for 2024 safe harbor purposes, you'd need at least $8,000 in withholding/estimated payments to avoid penalties. One thing that helped me was adjusting my W-4 mid-year after doing the conversion to increase withholding for the remaining pay periods. Much easier than trying to calculate and make estimated quarterly payments!
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Ethan Davis
β’This is really helpful, thanks! I'm in a similar situation and was getting confused by all the different numbers on my tax return. So just to clarify - even if I do a large Roth conversion this year that pushes my tax liability way up, as long as my withholding meets that safe harbor threshold from last year's total tax, I won't get hit with underpayment penalties? That seems almost too good to be true but I'm seeing this confirmed by multiple people here. The W-4 adjustment idea is smart too. I was dreading having to figure out quarterly estimated payments but increasing withholding from my regular paycheck sounds much more straightforward.
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