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I went through this last year. Check if your employer did a "gross-up" for the relocation expenses. Mine did, and it confused me at first. A gross-up means they gave you extra money to cover the taxes you'll owe on the relocation benefits. For example, if your actual moving expenses were $10,000, they might have given you $13,000 so that after taxes, you'd have enough to cover the $10,000 in expenses. In TurboTax, you don't need to do anything special other than entering your W-2 correctly. If the relocation expenses were grossed up, your W-2 will already include both the relocation benefits AND the additional money they gave you to cover taxes. Your company's relocation tax report should indicate if they did a gross-up calculation.
Thanks, this is helpful! My relocation paperwork does mention a "tax gross-up" for some of the benefits, but not all of them. So for the ones that weren't grossed-up, I'll end up owing taxes on those out of pocket, right?
That's exactly right. For the benefits that weren't grossed-up, you'll need to pay taxes on that amount out of your own pocket. For example, if you received a $3,000 lump sum that wasn't grossed-up, you might owe roughly $750 in taxes (depending on your tax bracket) that comes out of your pocket. The ones that were grossed-up should be fine - the extra amount your employer added should cover the tax liability for those specific benefits. Just be prepared for your W-2 to look higher than you might expect, since it includes both your regular salary and all these additional taxable benefits.
Has anyone had issues with TurboTax not accepting relocation expenses correctly? Last year I entered my W-2 which included relocation, but TurboTax kept flagging it as "unusually high income" compared to my previous year. I'm worried about using TurboTax again this year for my recent relocation.
I got that same warning last year but just ignored it. TurboTax throws up caution flags for any significant changes year-over-year. As long as your W-2 accurately reflects everything (including the relocation benefits), you're fine to proceed past that warning. It's just an automated check, not an actual problem with your return.
I got behind on taxes for about 4 years while dealing with severe depression. What really helped me was contacting the Taxpayer Advocate Service - it's a free, independent organization within the IRS that helps people resolve tax problems. They assigned me an advocate who helped me through the whole process. For the ADHD aspect, bring documentation from your doctor when you speak with tax professionals. While there's no specific program for neurodivergent folks, medical issues (including mental health) can sometimes qualify for penalty abatement under "reasonable cause" if you can show it directly impacted your ability to comply with tax obligations.
I've never heard of the Taxpayer Advocate Service. Do they help with complicated situations involving multiple years and different income sources? Also, do they help negotiate payment plans or is that a separate process?
Yes, they absolutely help with complicated multi-year situations - that's actually their specialty. My case involved W2 income, freelance work, and some investment income across several years. They're particularly helpful when your case has special circumstances or when you've tried to resolve issues through normal IRS channels without success. The advocate can help with the entire process including setting up payment plans and exploring options like Offers in Compromise if you can't pay the full amount. They'll look at your financial situation holistically and recommend the best approach. They can even request holds on collection activities while you're working with them. To contact them, call 1-877-777-4778 or find your local office on the IRS website.
One thing nobody's mentioned is that you might actually be owed refunds for some of those years! I was in a similar boat (5 years unfiled) and when I finally did my taxes, I discovered I was due refunds for 2 of those years because of over-withholding from my W2 job. The catch is you only have 3 years to claim refunds, so some might be gone forever, but it's worth checking. Also look into IRS Free File if your income is under $73,000 - you can file current and some prior year returns for free with guided software.
This is a really good point. My brother thought he'd owe thousands, but ended up getting about $1,500 back because his W2 withholding more than covered what he owed from his side gig. Don't assume you'll owe until you run the numbers!
The W4 changed dramatically in 2020, and the IRS has been tweaking withholding tables ever since. Your daughter probably filled out the old version years ago, and the employer has just been using that information. The new W4 doesn't use allowances anymore. I'd suggest she fill out a new W4 and on line 4(c) add additional withholding. For her income level, if she wants a small refund instead of owing, adding about $25 per paycheck in additional withholding should cover it if she gets paid biweekly.
How do you calculate the right amount for line 4(c)? Is there a formula or something? Also, is there any risk to withholding too much?
A quick way to estimate is to take the amount she owed this year ($320) and divide by the number of paychecks she receives annually. If she's paid biweekly, that's 26 paychecks, so about $12.50 per check. I suggested $25 to give a buffer for a small refund rather than owing. There's no real risk to withholding too much except that you're giving the government an interest-free loan of your money until you file your taxes and get a refund. Some people actually prefer larger refunds as a form of forced savings, even though financially it's not optimal.
Did her job change at all? Sometimes they classify workers differently from year to year which affects withholding. My daughter had this happen when she went from being classified as a regular employee one year to some kind of "seasonal employee" the next, even though she worked year-round.
OP, make sure you've been filing Form 8606 for ALL years you made non-deductible traditional IRA contributions, not just for the conversion year! If you haven't been tracking your basis with Form 8606 each year, you might end up paying tax twice on your contributions. The most important thing with backdoor Roth is establishing that your traditional IRA contributions were non-deductible. Without Form 8606 history, the IRS has no way of knowing you already paid tax on that money.
Is it possible to file previous years' Form 8606 if you missed them? I've been making non-deductible contributions for 3 years but only learned about Form 8606 recently.
Yes, you can and absolutely should file Form 8606 for previous years if you missed them. You'll need to submit them separately as standalone forms - you don't need to amend your entire return. There's no penalty for filing Form 8606 late if you're only establishing basis (though there would be if you were reporting distributions). File a separate Form 8606 for each tax year, make sure to use the form version for that specific tax year, and write "Filed Pursuant to Section 301.9100-2" at the top to indicate you're filing it late under the automatic extension provisions.
Does anyone know if this same TurboTax issue happens with partial Roth conversions? I converted $4000 of my $7000 traditional IRA to Roth in 2022, and I'm worried TurboTax will miss it too.
Partial conversions are even trickier in TurboTax. Search for "1099-R" like others suggested, but when it asks what you did with the money, choose "Converted part to a Roth IRA." Then you'll need to specify how much went to the Roth vs how much stayed in the traditional IRA. The pro-rata rule will likely apply in your case since you kept some in the traditional IRA.
Lola Perez
Everyone's giving great advice about the tools, but just to directly answer your question: You should be fine as long as the total between the three returns adds up to 100%. The IRS does check that the total allocation for a policy doesn't exceed 100%, but they understand that people use different tax software. The main thing that would cause problems is if between you, your brother, and your mom, you collectively claim more than 100% of the policy. As long as you've coordinated so that doesn't happen (which it sounds like you did), you should be good.
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Nathaniel Stewart
ā¢Thanks, that's reassuring but quick follow-up question - what if my brother ends up not filing at all? Would that mean we only claimed 80% of the policy (my 20% + parents 60%)? Would that cause issues?
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Lola Perez
ā¢If your brother doesn't file at all, that wouldn't necessarily create problems regarding the Premium Tax Credit. The IRS is primarily concerned with making sure no more than 100% of a policy is claimed. Claiming less than 100% might mean some of the credit goes unclaimed, but it's not a compliance issue. However, if your brother was required to file a tax return (based on his income and situation) and received advance premium tax credits, he actually must file a return to reconcile those credits even if he otherwise wouldn't be required to file. Failure to file in this case could result in him being ineligible for advance premium tax credits in future years.
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Riya Sharma
Does anyone know if CashApp Taxes actually generates the Form 8962 Part IV correctly behind the scenes? I've been using TaxAct and it shows the actual form with the allocation percentages, but when I helped my daughter with CashApp I couldn't tell if it was doing it right.
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Santiago Diaz
ā¢Yes, CashApp Taxes (formerly Credit Karma Tax) does generate Form 8962 correctly including Part IV allocations, even though the user interface doesn't explicitly show this section. I was worried about this too, so I actually downloaded the PDF of my complete return after filing and checked - the allocation was there on the generated 8962.
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