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11 One thing to watch out for with W2G forms as a non-resident - make sure the casino actually withheld the correct amount! I won $4,300 at a casino in Vegas and they only withheld 24% instead of the 30% required for non-residents. Ended up having to pay the difference plus a small penalty when I filed.
16 This happened to me too! The casino mistakenly treated me as a US resident because I had a US mailing address (I was staying with my cousin). Is there any way to get the casino to fix their mistake, or do we just have to deal with it at tax time?
11 Unfortunately once the W2G is issued, the casino rarely corrects it. They usually put the burden on you to sort it out with the IRS. The safest approach is to verify the withholding percentage when you're at the casino winning the money. If you spot an incorrect withholding rate on your W2G, you could technically make an estimated tax payment using Form 1040-ES (NR) to cover the difference and avoid penalties. But most people just handle it when filing their 1040-NR, which is what I ended up doing.
Great thread! Just wanted to add that if you're working with a CPA, make sure they're familiar with Form 8833 (Treaty-Based Return Position Disclosure). Many non-residents with gambling winnings need to file this form to claim treaty benefits for reduced withholding rates. Also, keep in mind that some states have their own tax obligations for gambling winnings, even for non-residents. Nevada doesn't have state income tax, but if you won in a state like California or New York, you might need to file a non-resident state return too. Your CPA should know about these state-level requirements, but it's worth asking specifically about it during your consultation. The AICPA directory mentioned earlier is solid, but also check if your CPA has an ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number) specialization - many non-residents need ITINs for tax filing, and having a CPA who handles both the ITIN application and the tax return can streamline the process.
This is really helpful information about Form 8833! I hadn't heard of this form before but it sounds like it could be crucial for claiming treaty benefits. Quick question - do you know if there are penalties for NOT filing Form 8833 when you should have? And regarding the ITIN specialization, is that something I need to get before filing my return, or can it be handled as part of the same process with a qualified CPA?
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Bruh its wild how many ppl are waiting. My cousin filed last week and already got his but im still waiting since January lmaooo make it make sense
Been in the exact same situation since filing in January! The amended return dates you're seeing are definitely a glitch - I've seen this happen to others too. The IRS system sometimes shows wrong info when there are processing delays. I'd recommend getting your account transcript from IRS.gov (Get Transcript Online) - it'll show the actual status codes and give you a clearer picture of what's really happening with your return. The Where's My Refund tool is basically useless for complex cases like ours. Hang in there, you're not alone in this mess! 💪
Thanks for the advice! I'll definitely try getting my transcript - sounds way better than staring at that useless "still processing" message for the millionth time 😤 It's honestly crazy how broken their system is. Did your transcript actually show what was causing the delay?
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I was in this situtation for almost 3 weeks. website said verify but when I got through to an agent they told me i was already verified. the online system is a total mess and doesnt update properly. dont stress about it, your probably already good to go.
This is so frustrating but unfortunately totally normal! I went through the exact same thing last year. The IRS systems are ancient and don't communicate with each other at all. After I verified in person, it took almost 3 weeks for the online portal to stop showing that notification, but my refund was actually processed much faster than that. The key thing is that you got verbal confirmation from the IRS employee that your verification was complete. That's what actually matters for processing your return. The online notification is basically just a leftover flag that doesn't get cleared automatically. If you want peace of mind, you can check your account transcript in about a week to see if there's any movement on your return processing. But honestly, I'd just ignore that notification for now and check back in 2 weeks. If it's still there after that AND you haven't seen any progress on your return, then maybe give them a call. The whole system is a joke but at least you did everything right on your end! 🙄
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14 If there's been no IRS contact yet, you might qualify for abatement under First Time Penalty Abatement, but I'm not sure if that applies to Form 5472 specifically. Worth asking whoever helps you prepare the forms.
9 Unfortunately, First Time Penalty Abatement (FTA) typically doesn't apply to international information return penalties like Form 5472. FTA generally applies to failure to file, failure to pay, and failure to deposit penalties, but not to international information return penalties. Form 5472 penalties typically require "reasonable cause" for abatement, which has a much higher standard of proof than FTA. This is why a well-documented explanation of why the forms weren't filed is so important.
I went through almost the exact same situation with my foreign-owned C-Corp last year. We had missed Form 5472 filings from 2020-2022 and were terrified about the penalties. Here's what I learned: The IRS absolutely can and will assess penalties for all the missed years once they become aware of the situation. Each Form 5472 carries a $25,000 penalty, so the exposure adds up quickly. However, we successfully got all penalties abated by filing the missing forms with a detailed reasonable cause statement. The key was demonstrating that our failure to file was due to reasonable cause and not willful neglect. We documented our good faith efforts to comply with tax obligations, our lack of awareness of the specific Form 5472 requirement, and our prompt action once we discovered the issue. The IRS accepted our reasonable cause argument, and we paid zero in penalties despite owing potentially $75,000. The most important thing is to act quickly and document everything properly. Don't wait - the longer you delay, the harder it becomes to argue reasonable cause. I'd strongly recommend getting professional help with this. The reasonable cause statement is critical and needs to address specific IRS criteria for penalty abatement.
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•I used the same service last month when my return was stuck. Talking to an actual IRS agent was the only thing that helped me understand what was happening. They explained the whole verification process and timeframe.
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Eva St. Cyr
I'm going through the exact same nightmare right now! Filed in early February, got flagged for identity verification, completed it through ID.me, and now my transcript shows absolutely nothing like yours does. It's so frustrating because I've been filing for years and this has never happened before. The worst part is how they just completely wipe your return from the system with zero explanation. I keep checking my transcript hoping something will appear but it's just that same "RETURN NOT PRESENT FOR THIS ACCOUNT" message. Really hoping the 9-week timeline everyone is mentioning is accurate because I'm going crazy not knowing what's happening with my refund. Thanks for posting this - at least now I know I'm not the only one dealing with this mess!
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Monique Byrd
•You're definitely not alone! I'm dealing with something similar - filed early, verified identity, and now it's like my return never existed. The lack of communication from the IRS is the most frustrating part. At least everyone here is confirming it's normal, even though it feels anything but normal when you're living through it. Fingers crossed we both see movement soon!
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