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I went through this exact same situation last year. The 570/971 combo is frustrating but pretty common. In my case, it was because the IRS needed to verify my identity since I had moved and changed jobs. The letter took about 3 weeks to arrive and once I responded with the requested documents, my refund was released within 10 days. Hang in there - I know it's stressful when you're counting on that money for bills. Keep checking your mail daily and your transcript for any updates.
The most important question nobody's asked: what's your approximate income level? The answers will be very different if you're making $35k vs $135k. At lower income levels, Head of Household plus a dependent can absolutely result in zero federal tax liability.
This is the real question! Tax brackets matter SO much here. With HOH status and the child tax credit, you could earn up to around $54,000 in 2025 and potentially owe zero federal income tax (depending on other factors).
I work in payroll for a mid-sized company and see this situation fairly often. What you're experiencing is actually a feature, not a bug! The withholding system is designed to be precise based on your individual tax situation. As Head of Household with one dependent, you get a higher standard deduction ($21,900 for 2025) plus potentially the full Child Tax Credit ($2,000). If your income falls within certain ranges, these benefits can completely offset your federal tax liability. A few things to keep in mind: 1) Make sure your W-4 accurately reflects your situation - if you moved in with a partner or your child aged out, your status might change, 2) The IRS withholding calculator is your best friend - run it quarterly if your situation is stable, and 3) Consider setting aside a small emergency fund for taxes anyway, just for peace of mind. Your coworker likely files Single with no dependents, so her withholding will look completely different even at the same salary. This is totally normal!
This is really reassuring to hear from someone who works in payroll! I've been so worried about this situation, but your explanation makes perfect sense. Quick question - when you mention running the IRS calculator quarterly, is that something most people do? I ran it once when I first noticed the zero withholding, but I wasn't sure how often I should be checking it. Also, do you see situations where people's withholding changes mid-year due to life events, and how quickly should someone update their W-4 when that happens?
Has anyone had experience dealing with functional currency elections under Section 985 in connection with this issue? Wondering if making that election would simplify the filing process for future years even though it wouldn't help with the past unfiled returns.
Yes! This is actually really important to consider. If your client's activities in the US are significant enough, making a functional currency election under 985 can eliminate these translation headaches going forward. You'd still need to handle the historical unfiled returns with the M-1 adjustment approach, but future filings become much simpler. The downside is there's a fair amount of work in the transition year, and you need to get approval from the IRS via a method change. Form 3115 would be required.
I've dealt with this exact situation multiple times with foreign clients who had unfiled 1120F returns. The M-1 adjustment approach is definitely the way to go for these currency translation differences. One thing I'd add is to be very careful about your exchange rate sources and document them thoroughly. I always use the Federal Reserve's daily exchange rates and create a detailed memo explaining the methodology - which rates were used for which items and why. This becomes crucial if you're ever questioned during an exam. Also, since you're dealing with multiple years of unfiled returns, consider whether you need to address any potential penalties under the reasonable cause provisions. The IRS tends to be more understanding when there's a legitimate business reason for the delay and you're making a good faith effort to comply correctly.
I see a lot of detailed responses here already but wanted to add that timing matters too. If you formally dissolved your sole proprietorship and formed the LLC as a completely separate entity with new EIN, business accounts, etc., you might have a stronger case for treating it as a new business eligible for startup costs rather than just organizational costs. Did you completely close out the sole prop and start fresh, or was it more of a conversion? That distinction can matter for how the IRS views it.
It was more of a conversion rather than a complete shutdown and restart. I didn't get a new EIN since the LLC is a single-member LLC that's disregarded for tax purposes. I did open new bank accounts and update all my business documentation, but the actual business activities remained the same without interruption. From what everyone's saying, it sounds like I should focus on the organizational costs deduction rather than startup costs. I'm separating out the legal fees, filing fees, and other costs directly related to forming the LLC structure itself, which seems to be the right approach.
That's exactly the right approach, Khalil! Since you kept the same EIN and it's a single-member LLC taxed as a disregarded entity, the IRS will definitely view this as a continuation of your existing business rather than a startup. Your $6,700 in formation costs should be treated as organizational expenses under Section 248. You can deduct $5,000 immediately and amortize the remaining $1,700 over 15 years (about $113 annually). Make sure to keep detailed records separating the LLC formation costs (legal fees, state filing fees, operating agreement drafting) from any regular business expenses you might have incurred during the transition. One tip: if you had any costs related to transferring assets from the sole prop to the LLC (like updating contracts or transferring licenses), those might be treated differently than the pure organizational costs, so keep those receipts separate as well.
Mateo Hernandez
Lucy, I'm so sorry you're dealing with this stressful situation. The retroactive application of tax policy changes by employers is unfortunately more common than it should be, especially with education benefits where the tax code distinctions can be complex. One thing that might help is requesting written documentation from your employer about why they're making this change and their interpretation of the tax code. Sometimes HR departments make blanket policy changes without fully understanding the nuances between Section 132(d) and Section 127. An Executive MBA program could potentially qualify under both sections depending on how directly it relates to your current job duties versus preparing you for advancement. For immediate relief on the Roth IRA overcontribution, definitely contact your custodian right away. They can help you calculate exactly how much needs to be withdrawn based on your new MAGI and handle the process properly to avoid penalties. Also consider consulting with a tax professional who specializes in education benefits - this situation is complex enough that it might be worth the investment to get personalized advice on both the employer negotiation and the tax implications. Don't give up on pushing back with your employer, especially if you can demonstrate that your program maintains/improves skills for your current role rather than qualifying you for a new position.
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Mason Davis
ā¢This is exactly the kind of thorough approach that works! I'm dealing with a similar situation where my employer switched our professional development program from non-taxable to taxable mid-year. Getting everything in writing was crucial - I found an email from HR last year explicitly stating the benefit was "tax-free" which became key evidence in my appeal. The point about demonstrating how your program maintains current job skills versus preparing for advancement is spot-on. I had to create a detailed breakdown showing how each course directly applied to my current responsibilities. It's tedious work, but it made the difference between my employer accepting my argument and dismissing it. Lucy, definitely push for that written explanation from your employer about their reasoning. Sometimes they realize they haven't fully analyzed the situation when forced to put their justification in writing. And yes, a tax professional specializing in education benefits is worth every penny for situations this complex - they often know strategies that general CPAs might miss.
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GamerGirl99
Lucy, what a frustrating situation! The retroactive application feels particularly unfair since you made your enrollment decision based on the tax treatment that was in place at the time. One angle you might explore is whether your employer provided any written documentation about the tax treatment when you initially enrolled. If they represented the benefit as non-taxable in writing (in enrollment materials, emails, or policy documents), you may have grounds to argue that they should honor that representation at least for your current program cohort. Also, don't overlook the possibility that some portions of your Executive MBA might still qualify under Section 132(d). The key test is whether specific courses maintain or improve skills needed in your current job versus preparing you for a different role. An Executive MBA often includes courses directly applicable to current management responsibilities - finance, operations, strategic planning, etc. You might be able to make a case that certain courses should remain under the more favorable tax treatment. For your immediate Roth IRA issue, time is critical. Contact your IRA custodian this week to start the excess contribution removal process. They'll calculate any earnings that need to be withdrawn along with the excess contribution amount. Consider documenting everything and requesting a meeting with HR to discuss the situation. Sometimes these policy changes happen without full consideration of existing participants who relied on the previous rules. The worst they can say is no, but you might find they're willing to work with you on the transition.
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