Try contacting your local taxpayer advocate service. They helped me bypass the whole phone nightmare

I had the exact same issue last month! The TPP phone line is absolutely swamped right now. Here's what finally worked for me: 1. **Early morning calls**: Call at exactly 7:00 AM your local time. Set multiple alarms if needed. The wait times are shortest right when they open. 2. **Local IRS office**: This was my lifesaver. Go to irs.gov/help/contact-your-local-irs-office and find your nearest Taxpayer Assistance Center. You can walk in with your ID and they'll verify you on the spot. Way faster than waiting for mail or playing phone tag. 3. **Taxpayer Advocate Service**: If you've been waiting over 30 days total, contact them. They can expedite your case and bypass some of the normal waiting periods. The verification process is frustrating but it's there to protect you from identity theft. Don't give up - you'll get through it! The in-person route saved me about 3 weeks of waiting.

Anyone else notice the website is always down for maintenance on Sunday nights? 🤔

Same boat here! Filed 3 weeks ago and still stuck on "processing." Thanks for the tip about checking in the morning @Kendrick Webb - definitely gonna stop my hourly refresh habit lol. The waiting game is brutal but at least we're all suffering together 😅

Has anyone actually gone through an IRS audit with this situation? I'm worried about taking this approach and then getting flagged for audit because the IRS system doesn't understand what I'm trying to do. I mean, technically we're following the rules, but it seems like we're doing something the forms weren't designed for. Just wondering if anyone has real experience with how the IRS handles this in practice.

I've been following this discussion with great interest since I'm in a very similar situation as an expat with capital loss carryforwards. Based on what I'm reading here, it sounds like there are multiple valid approaches, but they all require very careful documentation. One thing I'm noticing is that everyone seems to agree on the importance of creating a clear paper trail with detailed statements attached to your returns. Whether you use the tax benefit rule approach that Lydia mentioned, or preserve the full loss with an explanatory statement like others have suggested, the key seems to be transparency with the IRS about what you're doing and why. I'm leaning toward calling the IRS directly using that Claimyr service several people mentioned to get official guidance for my specific situation. It seems like getting confirmation directly from an IRS agent would give me the most confidence in whatever approach I choose. Has anyone found specific IRS publications or guidance documents that address this scenario? I'd love to have some official written guidance to reference in addition to the verbal confirmation from phone calls.

Are any of you using online tax prep software for your C-Corp returns when you actually file? I'm trying to figure out if I should just buy software now and use that to file the extension too, or if that's overkill for just an extension.

As someone who just went through this process last month, I'd strongly recommend e-filing your Form 7004 rather than mailing it, especially if you're cutting it close to the deadline. The IRS free e-file options for business extensions are actually pretty good now. One thing I wish I'd known earlier - even though you're bootstrapping, consider setting aside some cash for the estimated payment. I made the mistake of filing the extension without any payment thinking I could figure it out later, and ended up with interest charges that added up quickly. Even a rough estimate based on your projected profit is better than zero. Also, don't forget to check if your state requires a separate extension filing. Some states automatically extend when you file federal, but others don't. Since you mentioned you're a tech startup, depending on your state's business tax requirements, this could be important to avoid additional penalties. The whole process really doesn't have to be overwhelming - Form 7004 is much simpler than the actual tax return you'll file later!

Has anyone had experience with the Foreign Housing Exclusion/Deduction that goes along with FEIE? I'm moving to London next month and I hear housing costs are insane there. Wondering if this additional exclusion makes FEIE better than FTC in high-cost cities?

Great question! I went through this exact same decision process when I moved back to the US after working in the UK for several years. One key point that hasn't been fully addressed: you mentioned having $13,500 in excess FTC from 2023 - those credits are gold! Since FTC carryovers last 10 years, you can absolutely use them on your 2025 return even though you used FEIE in 2024. This might actually make your decision easier since you'll get immediate benefit from those carried-forward credits. A few additional considerations for your situation: - If you're planning to stay in the US long-term, FTC might make more sense going forward since you won't qualify for FEIE as a US resident - State taxes: some states don't recognize FEIE but do recognize FTC, so if you're in a state with income tax, this could affect your calculation - Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT): FTC can sometimes trigger AMT issues, while FEIE generally doesn't Since you're back in the US for 2025, you probably won't have foreign earned income anyway, so the FEIE vs FTC decision might be moot for this year. Focus on maximizing the use of those carryover credits from 2023! The switching rules are exactly as others described - you can go from FTC to FEIE anytime, but once you revoke FEIE, there's that 5-year waiting period.