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Mei Liu

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Natasha. Dealing with tax paperwork while grieving is never easy. The advice here is spot on - you'll sign YOUR name on the signature line, not your aunt's. Write "Personal Representative" in the occupation field, and make sure to write "DECEASED" with the date of death (November 2024) across the top of the form. Since you mentioned you weren't court-appointed but are handling her affairs as the only living relative, you should definitely include Form 56 with the return to notify the IRS of your fiduciary role. This protects you and establishes your authority to act on her behalf. For her final return, you'll report all income she received from January 1, 2024 through her date of death in November. The interest, pension, and Social Security income you mentioned will all go on the regular lines of Form 1040. If there's a refund due, you'll likely need Form 1310 to claim it since you're not a surviving spouse. Take your time with this - the IRS generally allows up to 3 years from the original due date to file a final return, so there's no need to rush and make mistakes. You're doing a loving thing by handling her final affairs properly.

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Liam Mendez

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This is really comprehensive advice, thank you Mei! I'm new to this community and dealing with my grandfather's final tax return. One thing I'm still confused about - if I need to file Form 1310 to get his refund, do I file that at the same time as the 1040, or do I wait until after the return is processed? Also, is there a specific deadline for filing the final return, or just the normal April 15th deadline that would have applied to him?

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Ethan Brown

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Hi Liam! You'll file Form 1310 at the same time as the 1040 - attach it to the tax return when you mail it in. Don't wait until after processing, as the IRS needs it to authorize releasing the refund to you as a non-spouse representative. For the deadline, the final return follows the same filing deadline that would have applied to your grandfather. So if he normally filed by April 15th, that's still the deadline for his final return (April 15, 2025 for the 2024 tax year). However, if you need more time, you can file for an extension using Form 4868, which gives you until October 15th to file the actual return. One important note - even though you have until the normal deadline to file, if there are any taxes owed, interest and penalties can still accrue from the original due date. So if you think taxes are owed, it's better to file sooner rather than later, or at least make an estimated payment by the April deadline. Hope this helps with your grandfather's return!

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I'm sorry for your loss, Natasha. Having handled my grandmother's final return last year, I understand how overwhelming this can feel when you're already dealing with grief. The key points others have covered are correct - you'll sign YOUR name on the signature line (not your aunt's), write "Personal Representative" in the occupation field, and mark "DECEASED" with her date of death at the top of the form. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier: keep detailed records of everything you do related to her estate, including copies of the tax return and any correspondence with the IRS. You might need these later for estate administration or if any questions come up. Also, since you mentioned she had Social Security income, be aware that if she received any Social Security payments after her date of death, those may need to be returned to the Social Security Administration. This is separate from the tax return but something to check on. The IRS has a helpful Publication 559 ("Survivors, Executors, and Administrators") that walks through all the requirements for filing a decedent's final return. It's available free on their website and really helped me understand the process when I was in your situation. You're doing the right thing by asking these questions and making sure everything is handled properly. Take it one step at a time.

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Sean Doyle

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Thank you for mentioning Publication 559 - that's such a valuable resource! I'm also dealing with a family member's final tax return and didn't know about this publication. Your point about Social Security payments received after death is really important too. I hadn't thought about that aspect. Do you know if there's a specific timeframe for returning those payments? And is it something the family needs to initiate, or does Social Security automatically detect it? Also, when you mention keeping detailed records for estate administration - are there any specific documents beyond the tax return copies that you found particularly important to keep? Sorry for all the questions, but this is all new to me and your experience sounds really helpful!

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Tyler Murphy

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Here's what's actually happening behind the scenes: After verification, your return goes into a secondary processing queue. Returns are batched weekly and assigned to processing teams. Current IRS backlog metrics show 5-6 weeks average processing time post-verification for e-filed returns, 7-8 weeks for paper returns. The 9-week estimate gives them cushion for complex returns. WMR updates lag behind actual processing by 3-7 days because it pulls from a different database that syncs on a schedule. Check your transcript every Thursday morning - that's when most updates happen due to the IRS weekly processing cycle.

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Emma Wilson

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Thanks for sharing those processing insights, Tyler. The Thursday update schedule is particularly helpful to know. I'm curious though - do you have any data on whether the processing time varies significantly between different IRS service centers? I've heard anecdotal reports that some locations process verification cases faster than others, but I'm wondering if there's any pattern to geographic processing differences. Also, for those tracking their cases, have you noticed if calling for status updates actually helps or potentially slows down the process? Some people swear by weekly check-ins while others say it's better to just wait it out.

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Caden Turner

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Great questions, Emma! From what I've observed in various tax forums, there does seem to be some variation between service centers. The Kansas City and Austin centers tend to process verification cases slightly faster (4-5 weeks average) compared to Fresno or Philadelphia (6-7 weeks). However, you can't control which center gets your return, so it's more of an interesting data point than actionable information. Regarding status calls - I've noticed that frequent calls (more than once every 2-3 weeks) can actually flag your account for additional review, which ironically slows things down. The IRS systems track call frequency, and too many inquiries can trigger manual review protocols. My recommendation? Check your transcript weekly but limit calls to once every 3-4 weeks max, and only if you're past their quoted timeframe.

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Nia Thompson

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Just wanted to share my success story that sounds very similar to yours: β€’ Filed: February 12th β€’ Called IRS: April 2nd β€’ Was told: "Needs verification but already verified on March 25th" β€’ Refund deposited: April 9th I was equally confused about how I was verified without doing anything, but I didn't question it! The refund showed up exactly 15 days after that mysterious verification date. So based on my experience: β€’ You should see your refund around April 23rd β€’ No action needed from you β€’ This is apparently a normal process Hope this helps ease your mind a bit!

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This happened to me as well! Filed on February 20th and when I called last week, the representative said my return needed identity verification but it had already been completed on April 3rd. I was so confused because I never received any letters or calls asking me to verify anything. After reading everyone's responses here, it makes much more sense - sounds like the IRS is getting better at using their automated systems to verify returns without bothering taxpayers. I'm still waiting for my refund but feeling much more confident now that everything is moving along normally. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and explanations - this community is so helpful for understanding these confusing IRS processes!

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Mila Walker

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Just a warning from someone who went through this - make absolutely sure you keep SOME kind of documentation going forward! I got a similar 1099-K last year and thought I could just explain it away, but I ended up getting a letter asking for more information. What saved me was having screenshots of my original listings showing item descriptions that clearly indicated they were personal items (things like "moving sale" or "clearing out my collection"), plus PayPal transaction records showing I wasn't doing this regularly.

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Logan Scott

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Would screenshots from facebook marketplace count as documentation? Thats where I did most of my selling and I'm worried about proving these were just personal items.

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AstroAlpha

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Yes, Facebook Marketplace screenshots would definitely count as documentation! In fact, they might be even better than eBay listings because Facebook Marketplace is commonly used for personal item sales rather than business activities. Make sure to capture screenshots that show the item descriptions, dates, and especially any wording that indicates these were personal belongings (like "spring cleaning," "downsizing," "no longer needed," etc.). Also save any conversation threads with buyers that show the casual, non-business nature of your sales. The key is building a clear picture that this was occasional selling of personal items, not regular business activity.

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This 1099-K situation is so frustrating for people just selling personal items! I went through something similar and here's what I learned from my tax preparer: The key is being very clear about the nature of your sales. For your old personal items sold at a loss, you can report these on Schedule 1 (Additional Income) rather than Schedule C. Write something like "1099-K Personal Items Sold at Loss - Not Business Income" in the description. This avoids the self-employment tax issue entirely. For the blind box splits where you're breaking even, those might need to go on Schedule C since you're buying items specifically to resell (even at cost). But since you're not making a profit, your net income would be zero anyway. The most important thing is documentation. Start gathering whatever you can - PayPal transaction details, screenshots of listings, even photos of the items if you still have them. For older items without receipts, make reasonable estimates based on what you remember paying. The IRS allows "good faith" estimates for personal property. One thing that helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet showing: Item description, original purchase date/price (estimated if needed), sale date, sale price, and profit/loss. This clearly demonstrates you weren't running a profitable business operation. Don't panic about an audit - if you're honest and have reasonable documentation, you'll be fine. The IRS deals with this situation constantly now that the 1099-K thresholds have changed.

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Millie Long

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - if your employer is automatically withholding extra tax from your paychecks for the education benefits, make sure they're giving you documentation of the TOTAL education benefits provided, not just the amount over $5250. You'll need the full amount to properly calculate your exclusion. Also, check if your employer coded anything special on your W-2 regarding these benefits. Some employers will note education benefits in Box 14, while others just include them in your total wages without any notation. Knowing how they reported it helps determine how you need to handle it on your return.

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That's a great point I hadn't thought about! I do have documentation from my employer showing the total tuition amount paid (about $19,800 for the year), and they've been withholding extra from each paycheck to cover the amount over $5250. I'll definitely check with HR about how exactly they're planning to code it on my W-2. Any other documentation you'd recommend getting from them specifically?

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Millie Long

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I'd recommend getting a formal letter from your employer that specifically states: 1) The total amount of education benefits provided, 2) That the education is job-related and maintains/improves skills needed for your current position, 3) That your degree is not needed to meet minimum requirements for your current role, and 4) That your studies do not qualify you for a new trade or business. Having this letter on company letterhead can be extremely valuable if you're ever questioned by the IRS. Many employers aren't familiar with providing this documentation, so you might need to draft it yourself and have them review/sign it. If your company has an education benefits policy, get a copy of that too - it helps establish that the education is job-related.

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KaiEsmeralda

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I'm in almost exactly the same situation - clinical research job, employer paying for a similar master's program. One thing my tax advisor told me is to keep proof that I'm staying in my current field after completing the degree. Apparently, if you use the degree to switch careers within 12 months of completing it, the IRS might retroactively disallow the working condition fringe benefit exclusion. Just something to keep in mind - save performance reviews, job descriptions, etc. from before, during and after your education program to prove continuity in your career path.

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Debra Bai

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Is that really true? I thought the determination was made based on the facts at the time the education was provided, not what you do afterwards. So if your intention and circumstances at the time show it was to improve skills for your current job, later career changes shouldn't matter.

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