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wat tax software did u use? heard some are having delays with certain companies
turbotax wbu?
same. fingers crossed for both of us š¤
Hey! I went through the exact same thing last week and was totally panicking. My 2024 Account Transcript was completely blank for like 10 days while my Return Transcript showed everything perfectly. Finally got my first update yesterday with processing codes! The blank Account Transcript just means they haven't started actually working on your return yet - it's not broken or anything. Once they begin processing, you'll see all the codes start appearing including the 846 you're waiting for. The Return Transcript being visible is actually a good sign that everything was received properly. I know the waiting is brutal but it sounds like you're in the normal flow. Keep checking Wednesdays and Fridays since those are the main update days. You should see movement soon! š¤
Thanks for sharing your experience! That's exactly what I needed to hear. It's so stressful when you're waiting for your refund and the transcript looks broken. Really glad to know this is normal and that movement should happen soon. Did your 846 code show up right after the processing codes appeared?
Since you're renting half of a duplex where you live in the other half, you should look into whether this qualifies as a "dwelling unit used as a home" under IRS rules. This classification affects how expenses are allocated and deducted. When you use a dwelling unit for both personal and rental purposes, expenses have to be allocated based on time or space. For a duplex where half is your residence and half is Airbnb, you'd usually allocate based on square footage. So mortgage interest, property taxes, utilities, internet, etc. would be split accordingly. Also, if you're actively managing the property (screening guests, handling turnovers, etc.), this could potentially be considered "material participation" which has different tax implications than passive rental income.
So if I understand right, for a 50/50 split duplex, I could deduct 50% of common expenses for the business side? What about stuff that's only for the rental side like furniture, cleaning between guests, etc? Are those 100% deductible?
One thing to consider that hasn't been mentioned yet - since you're doing short-term rentals (Airbnb), you'll likely need to deal with local occupancy taxes and business licensing requirements that vary significantly by city and county. Many jurisdictions require separate business licenses for short-term rentals, and some have caps on the number of days you can rent or require special permits. For the LLC timing question, I'd actually recommend getting it set up ASAP, not just for liability protection but because many local licensing authorities want to see a registered business entity when you apply for STR permits. Having your LLC established first makes the licensing process smoother. Also, don't forget about sales tax implications - in many states, short-term rentals under 30 days are subject to sales tax collection and remittance, which is different from traditional long-term rental properties. The LLC can help keep these tax obligations separate from your personal finances and make compliance easier to track.
Great point about the local requirements! I'm just getting started with this whole process and hadn't even thought about occupancy taxes or business licenses. Do you know if there's a good way to research what specific requirements apply in my area? I'm worried about accidentally operating without the right permits and getting hit with fines or having to shut down before I even get going. Also, when you mention sales tax collection - does that mean I'd need to charge guests extra tax on top of what Airbnb already collects, or does Airbnb handle that automatically in most places?
A word of caution - I tried something similar and got audited. Make sure ANY property transfer to an LLC is done at fair market value with proper documentation. The IRS scrutinizes these transactions heavily because they're often used just for tax purposes. Also, putting properties in an irrevocable trust has MAJOR implications. You basically give up ownership and control. Don't do this without consulting an estate planning attorney who specializes in this area! The tax implications alone are complex.
Be very careful about the mortgage implications of transferring to an LLC. Most residential mortgages have a "due on sale" clause that can be triggered by transferring the property to an LLC, even if you own the LLC. This could force you to pay off the entire mortgage immediately or refinance at potentially higher commercial rates. I'd strongly recommend getting written approval from your lender before making any transfers. Some lenders will work with you, but many won't allow it without refinancing as a commercial loan, which typically has higher rates and different terms. Also, don't overlook the potential impact on your homeowners insurance. Many policies don't cover properties owned by LLCs, so you might need to switch to a landlord policy, which is usually more expensive. The tax strategy might work, but make sure you can actually execute it practically with your current mortgage and insurance situation first.
This is such an important point that often gets overlooked! I learned this the hard way when I was exploring a similar strategy. My lender made it very clear that any transfer to an LLC would trigger the due-on-sale clause, even though I would still be the owner of the LLC. What's particularly tricky is that some people think they can just not tell their lender, but that's risky because most loan agreements require you to notify them of ownership changes. If they find out later (which they often do through title searches or insurance changes), they can demand immediate payment of the full loan balance. The commercial refinancing route can be expensive too - not just higher rates, but also different down payment requirements, shorter amortization periods, and sometimes personal guarantees even with an LLC structure. Definitely worth getting quotes from commercial lenders before committing to this strategy to see if the numbers still make sense after accounting for the higher borrowing costs.
I'm confused about why gross income matters more than AGI for your analysis? Wouldn't AGI be more meaningful since it reflects income after certain necessary adjustments?
I'm specifically looking at how certain tax deductions and adjustments (the ones that reduce gross income to AGI) are distributed across income levels. Using AGI-based statistics masks this because the higher income levels have already had larger deductions applied in many cases. I want to see the true progressivity of the tax code before these adjustments are applied, not after. This gives a more complete picture of who benefits most from certain tax preferences.
Have you considered looking at the IRS's Individual Income Tax Returns Complete Report (Publication 1304) tables in conjunction with their Form 1040 line item statistics? While the main tables focus on AGI, some of the supplementary tables break down specific income components before adjustments. The IRS also publishes detailed line-by-line statistics that show the distribution of various income types (wages, business income, capital gains, etc.) and deductions by income bracket. By combining these with the total income figures, you might be able to reconstruct gross income distributions. Another resource is the Treasury's Office of Tax Analysis - they sometimes publish studies using broader income measures than standard IRS publications. Their distributional analyses occasionally include pre-adjustment income figures that could be what you're looking for.
This is really helpful! I hadn't thought about combining the line-by-line statistics with the main tables. Do you know if the Treasury's Office of Tax Analysis reports are publicly available, or do you need special access? I've been focusing so much on the IRS publications that I completely overlooked Treasury as a potential source. Also, when you mention reconstructing gross income distributions - are you talking about manually adding back the adjustments from the detailed breakdowns? That sounds like it could work but might be pretty labor-intensive depending on how granular the data is.
Noah Ali
If you're being claimed as a dependent (like if your parents claim you), the rules are different! Dependents have to file if they have unearned income (which stock gains are) over $1,250. Something to consider if your parents are claiming you.
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Malia Ponder
Hey Liam! I was in a really similar situation last year - grad student with minimal trading gains (mine was around $85). After doing a lot of research and even calling the IRS (eventually), here's what I learned: Since you're under the standard deduction threshold ($14,350 for single filers in 2025), you're technically not required to file a federal return. However, your broker will still send a 1099-B to both you and the IRS showing your trading activity. The key thing is - even though you don't have to file, it might actually be worth filing anyway for a couple reasons: 1. It creates a paper trail showing you properly reported everything (peace of mind) 2. If the IRS ever questions the 1099-B they received, you'll have documentation 3. It's good practice for when your trading gets more complex For just $67 in gains, your actual tax liability would be maybe $7-15 depending on your situation, so it's not about the money - it's about being thorough. Plus, if you use free filing software, it's really not that much extra work. One last thing - definitely check if you're claimed as a dependent somewhere else, because that changes the rules significantly!
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