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I'm dealing with a very similar situation with my real estate partnership K1s, and this thread has been incredibly enlightening. While my situation involves real estate rather than oil & gas, I'm seeing the same pattern where different CPAs handle partnership income adjustments inconsistently for Schedule SE purposes. What really resonates with me is the point about needing specialized knowledge. My regular CPA has been great for straightforward tax situations, but when it comes to these partnership complexities, I'm realizing they're just not equipped to handle the nuances properly. For those asking about finding specialists - I've had good luck checking with your state CPA society. Many have directories where you can search by specialty area. Also, if you know other investors in similar partnerships, asking for referrals has been valuable. People who've dealt with these issues successfully are usually happy to share their CPA recommendations. One thing I'd add to the documentation advice - make sure you keep records of any conversations with your CPAs about these issues, especially if they're giving you conflicting guidance. Having that paper trail can be helpful if you need to justify your position later, either to a new CPA or potentially to the IRS. The potential savings mentioned here ($7K-$13K) really drive home why it's worth the effort to get this right. Thanks to everyone who's shared their expertise - this has given me the confidence to pursue amendments for my own situation.
This is really valuable insight about real estate partnerships having similar issues! I had no idea these Schedule SE adjustment problems extended beyond oil & gas. It makes me wonder how many investors across different partnership types are unknowingly overpaying on self-employment taxes because their CPAs aren't familiar with the specialized rules. Your point about documenting conversations with CPAs is excellent advice. I wish I had done that with my former CPA - it would have made it much easier to explain the inconsistency to my current one. The state CPA society directory suggestion is brilliant - I never thought to search by specialty area. I just assumed all CPAs would know these rules, but clearly that's not the case. It's becoming obvious that for partnership investments, you really need someone who deals with these structures regularly. Thanks for sharing your experience with real estate partnerships. It's reassuring to know others are successfully navigating similar amendment processes. The potential savings really do justify the effort to find the right professional and get this corrected.
This entire thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone who's been struggling with similar K1 issues from a working interest partnership, I can't thank everyone enough for sharing their expertise and experiences. What really stands out to me is how this situation perfectly illustrates the importance of getting the right professional help. The fact that two different CPAs can handle the exact same K1 information so differently is honestly shocking - and expensive for taxpayers who get the wrong treatment. For the original poster, I'd definitely echo the advice about finding a CPA who specializes in energy taxation. The general consensus here seems clear that your new CPA is handling this correctly by subtracting IDC and depletion from Box 14a for Schedule SE purposes. One additional resource I'd suggest is reaching out to the partnership itself. Many oil & gas partnerships have relationships with tax professionals who understand their specific structures and can provide guidance or even referrals to qualified CPAs in your area. They deal with these K1 questions all the time and usually want their partners to handle things correctly. The potential savings you're looking at ($7K-$13K) definitely justify the time and effort to get this sorted out properly. Don't let your former CPA's unwillingness to address this stop you from pursuing what sounds like legitimate refunds. With all the resources and expert opinions shared in this thread, you've got solid ground to stand on when filing those amendments.
Has anyone had success requesting abatement online through the IRS account portal rather than mailing in Form 843? I thought I saw something about being able to do it electronically now but can't find clear instructions.
Based on your situation, you have an excellent case for both penalty and interest abatement. Since you maintained perfect compliance for years while overseas and the IRS clearly had your correct address on your filed returns, this is a textbook example of IRS error causing unnecessary penalties and interest. Here's what I'd recommend doing immediately: 1. **Get your account transcripts** - Download transcripts showing your filed returns with the correct address vs. the notices with the wrong address. This is your smoking gun evidence. 2. **File Form 843** - Request both penalty AND interest abatement. Be very specific about the interest abatement request citing IRC 6404(e) and explain how the IRS error in using the wrong address caused unreasonable delay. 3. **Document everything** - Include copies of your returns showing correct address, copies of notices showing wrong address, and evidence of your clean compliance history. The fact that you paid immediately upon discovering the issue actually strengthens your case - it shows good faith and that you're not trying to avoid payment, just seeking relief from charges that shouldn't have accrued. Don't be surprised if the penalty abatement gets approved quickly (you clearly qualify for First Time Penalty Abatement) but the interest takes longer. Interest abatement has a higher bar but your address documentation should meet the "unreasonable IRS error" standard.
This is exactly the roadmap I needed - thank you so much! I just downloaded my account transcripts and you're absolutely right, the discrepancy between my filed returns and their notices is crystal clear. My 2023 return shows my correct overseas address, but all their notices went to some garbled version of it. One quick question - when you mention citing IRC 6404(e) on Form 843, should I include the actual text of that section or just reference it? I want to make sure I'm being thorough but not overdoing it. Also really appreciate the point about paying first actually helping my case. I was worried I'd shot myself in the foot by not requesting abatement before paying, but it sounds like it might actually work in my favor.
Quickbooks Self-Employed has been a lifesaver for me with this exact problem. It lets you swipe left/right to categorize transactions as business or personal, and you can split transactions too if needed. Way easier than sorting through everything manually at tax time.
Does it automatically pull in all your accounts? I use multiple credit cards and want something that consolidates everything.
Yes, it connects to basically all financial institutions and imports transactions automatically. I have it connected to three personal credit cards, my checking account, and my business account. You just need to go through and categorize which charges are business vs personal. Takes me about 10 minutes a week to stay on top of it all.
I went through this exact same situation with my consulting LLC last year! What really helped me was setting up a formal reimbursement system retroactively. I created expense reports for all the personal funds I'd used for business expenses, then had my LLC "reimburse" me by transferring money from the business account to my personal account. The key is maintaining that paper trail showing these were legitimate business expenses that you temporarily covered. I used a simple Excel template to document each expense with date, amount, vendor, business purpose, and which personal account I used. Then I'd do monthly reimbursements to myself. Your accountant will definitely appreciate that you've been tracking everything - that's honestly the hardest part. The fact that you have receipts and documentation puts you way ahead of most small business owners. Just make sure going forward you try to use business accounts when possible, but don't stress too much about the occasional personal payment as long as you document it properly.
Chiming in as someone who also had a dormant LLC - don't forget about tax software options. I used TaxSlayer last year and it guided me through what I needed for my zero-activity LLC completely. Most of the major tax software options (TurboTax, H&R Block, etc.) have sections specifically for handling business returns, even with no income or expenses.
Did TaxSlayer handle state filings too? I used TurboTax last year and it didn't prompt me for my state's LLC annual report which was separate from the tax filing.
I went through this exact same situation with my LLC last year! The short answer is yes, you'll likely need to file something even with zero activity. Since you mentioned it's been completely dormant, you'll probably need to file a Schedule C (Form 1040) showing all zeros - this is required for single-member LLCs even when there's no business activity. The key thing to remember is that the IRS wants to see that you're reporting your business status, even if that status is "no activity." It's basically confirming that you didn't have unreported income rather than just ignoring the business entirely. Also, don't overlook your state requirements! Many states have annual filing fees or franchise taxes that are due regardless of business activity. Since you're planning to actually start using the LLC now, you'll want to make sure you're in good standing at both the federal and state level before you begin operations. I'd recommend checking with your state's Secretary of State website for any annual report requirements and deadlines - these are often separate from tax filings and can have penalties if missed.
This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in a similar boat - formed an LLC early last year but life got in the way and nothing happened with it. I've been stressed about what I need to file. Quick question though - when you say "Schedule C showing all zeros," do I literally just put zeros in all the income and expense fields? And does it matter that I never actually conducted any business meetings or had any business-related activities at all? I'm worried the IRS might think it's suspicious to claim a business with absolutely no activity whatsoever.
Justin Evans
I feel your pain! I'm also in PA and got the same 8-12 week notice. From what I've seen in other forums, it's mostly just a CYA message they send out. Most people I know got their PA refunds within 3-4 weeks of the processed status. The state systems are just slower this year because of budget cuts and staff shortages. Keep checking your account but try not to stress too much - it'll come! š¤
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Zara Ahmed
ā¢Thanks for the reassurance! I was starting to panic thinking I'd actually have to wait the full 12 weeks. Good to know it's probably just their standard disclaimer. I'll try to be patient but man, it's hard when you're counting on that money! š Did you end up getting yours within the 3-4 week timeframe?
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Drew Hathaway
Hey! I'm in the same exact situation - PA resident here and got that same scary 8-12 week message after my return showed processed. I was freaking out too because I really need this refund ASAP. But after reading through all these comments, I'm feeling a bit better knowing it's probably just their standard warning. Has anyone actually tried that taxr.ai thing people keep mentioning? I'm tempted to give it a shot for a dollar just to get some peace of mind about when this refund might actually hit my account. The daily bank account checking is driving me crazy! šµāš«
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Giovanni Gallo
ā¢Yeah I tried taxr.ai after seeing everyone talk about it here and honestly it was super helpful! For just $1 it gave me way more detail than the PA tax website ever did. It analyzed my transcript and actually showed me I had a minor processing hold that should clear within 2 weeks. Way better than just staring at that vague "8-12 weeks" message and wondering what's actually happening. Definitely worth it for the peace of mind - at least now I know what's going on instead of just refreshing my bank app 20 times a day š
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