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Has anyone had experience with how this multiple-business LLC approach affects getting business loans? I'm running a landscaping service and a weekend food truck under one LLC and looking to expand the food truck side, but wondering if banks will be confused by the mixed business activities when I apply.
I went through this exact situation last year. The bank wanted to see separate P&Ls for each business activity. Since I had been tracking everything separately with different classes in QuickBooks, I was able to show them exactly how the food truck portion of my business was performing independently from my other business activity. They did ask why I hadn't separated the businesses into different LLCs, but ultimately approved the loan based on the food truck's performance alone. They basically ignored the data from my other business activity entirely for loan evaluation purposes.
That's really helpful to know! I've been keeping pretty good records with separate tracking in QuickBooks, so sounds like I should be able to generate the P&Ls they need. Did they require anything special in terms of how the loan would be secured or used specifically for the food truck business?
One thing I'd add to this great discussion - make sure you check with your state about any specific industry licensing requirements. When I was running my cleaning service and catering business under one LLC, I discovered that my state required separate food handler permits and commercial kitchen inspections that were tied to the LLC registration. Some states also have restrictions on certain business combinations under one entity. For example, in my state you can't operate both a food service business and certain types of personal services (like massage therapy) under the same LLC due to health department regulations. It might be worth calling your state's business licensing office just to double-check there aren't any weird restrictions for your specific combination of car detailing, food service, and design work. Better to find out now than after you've set everything up!
I had the exact same issue last year! The problem is that when you and your spouse both work, each payroll system calculates withholding as if that's the only income in your household. So you're effectively getting double the standard deduction in your withholding calculations. Quick fix: take your combined annual income, find what tax bracket portions of it fall into, then calculate how much EXTRA tax you should be paying on that combined income vs what's being withheld. Divide by number of paychecks left in the year and put that amount in line 4(c) of your W-4s. For example, if together you're $10k into the 22% bracket but being withheld at 12% for that portion, you'd need about $1,000 more withholding for the year, or about $40 per biweekly paycheck each if you split it.
I tried doing this calculation myself last year and still messed it up somehow. Is there a calculator you used? The IRS one kept giving me errors.
I actually created a simple spreadsheet that does this calculation. The key thing to remember is that each job's withholding system assumes you get the full standard deduction ($25,900 for married filing jointly in 2022). So when both spouses work, you're effectively getting that deduction twice in your withholding calculations, even though you only get it once when filing. The IRS calculator is definitely the official way to go, but if it's giving you errors, try clearing your browser cache or using a different browser. Sometimes it has technical issues. Alternatively, many major tax software providers like TurboTax and H&R Block have free withholding calculators on their websites that are often more user-friendly than the IRS version.
Don't feel bad, this happened to tons of people! The W-4 changes plus adjustments to withholding tables have messed up a lot of people's withholding. My husband and I owed $3k this year despite having "0" allowances for years with no problems. One thing no one's mentioned - check if your health insurance premiums or retirement contributions changed significantly. Those are pre-tax deductions that affect your withholding calculations. In our case, we switched to a cheaper health plan, which meant more taxable income but the withholding didn't adjust properly to account for it.
That's a good point about the health insurance! We did switch to a high-deductible plan this year to save on premiums. I didn't realize that could affect withholding calculations. So we had more taxable income but the withholding didn't keep up?
Exactly! When you switch to a high-deductible health plan, your monthly premiums go down, which means less money is being deducted pre-tax from your paycheck. This increases your taxable income, but your W-4 withholding settings stayed the same, so not enough additional tax was being withheld to cover that higher taxable amount. It's one of those sneaky things that can throw off your withholding without you realizing it. The same thing happens if you reduce your 401k contributions, pay off student loans (losing the interest deduction), or even if your employer stops providing certain benefits that were previously reducing your taxable income. When you update your W-4s, make sure to account for these kinds of changes in your overall tax picture, not just the income amounts.
Just keep in mind that reverse exchanges are way more expensive - we paid almost $12K in additional fees for ours. Make sure the tax savings actually outweigh the costs!
That seems crazy high for fees! Was that just for the QI and EAT setup or did that include other closing costs too? The quote I got was around $6K for the reverse exchange services.
That included everything - the QI fees, legal documentation, EAT setup, title insurance for both properties, and additional closing costs. The base fee for the QI and EAT was about $7K, then the rest was for the additional complexity in closing costs. Our situation was more complex than most though since we were exchanging across state lines and one property was in an LLC. If your situation is straightforward, your $6K quote sounds reasonable. Just make sure to get everything in writing and check for any potential additional fees that might come up.
Great discussion here! I'm actually in the middle of a reverse 1031 exchange right now and wanted to share a few additional tips that have helped me: 1. Start your property search for the replacement property early and get pre-approved financing lined up. The 180-day clock starts ticking the moment you close on the replacement property, so you want to be ready to move quickly on selling your relinquished property. 2. Consider hiring a real estate agent who has experience with 1031 exchanges. They understand the timeline pressures and can help price your original property aggressively to ensure it sells within the exchange period. 3. Have your tax documents and property records organized before you start. The QI will need detailed information about your original property's basis, improvements, and depreciation history. The reverse exchange process definitely requires more coordination than a standard exchange, but it's been worth it for us to secure the replacement property we really wanted. Just make sure you have a good team - QI, real estate agent, accountant, and lender who all understand the process and timelines involved.
Has anyone used TurboTax for reporting gambling winnings? Does it walk you through the process well or should I use a different tax software?
I used TurboTax last year for my casino winnings. It handles the basics okay, but if you have complicated gambling scenarios (like professional gambling or large losses), you might need more help. It does ask about W-2Gs and gives you a place to enter additional gambling income not reported on forms.
One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned yet - keep ALL your receipts from the casino, not just the W-2G forms. This includes ATM receipts, food/drink receipts, parking receipts, even hotel receipts if you stayed overnight. These help establish a timeline and can support your gambling activity documentation. Also, consider opening a separate bank account just for gambling if you plan to do this regularly. It makes tracking so much easier come tax time. You deposit your gambling bankroll, withdraw winnings, and everything is cleanly separated from your regular finances. And remember - gambling winnings are subject to both federal AND state taxes in most states, so don't forget to check your state's specific requirements. Some states have different thresholds for reporting than the federal government.
This is really helpful advice! The separate bank account idea is brilliant - I wish I'd thought of that before my casino trip. Quick question though - for the ATM receipts, do those actually count as valid documentation for losses? I used the ATM at the casino multiple times but wasn't sure if that would hold up if I got audited, since technically I could have used that cash for anything once I withdrew it.
Oscar O'Neil
Are you sure you calculated your excess SS tax correctly? The limit is only on the amount of wages subject to SS tax, not the actual tax amount itself. For 2024, the wage base limit was $168,600. If your combined wages from both jobs exceeded that amount, then you would be entitled to a refund of the excess SS tax. But if your total wages were under that limit, you wouldn't be entitled to any excess SS tax refund.
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Camila Castillo
โขActually, this is incorrect. Even if total wages are below the limit, having multiple employers can still result in excess Social Security tax withholding. Each employer is required to withhold Social Security tax on wages up to the wage base limit ($168,600 for 2024), without considering what other employers might have withheld. So if OP had two jobs that each withheld at the full 6.2% rate without knowing about each other, the total withheld could exceed the maximum required payment.
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Sasha Reese
I went through this exact same situation two years ago with multiple employers. The IRS verification process for excess Social Security tax claims is pretty standard - they just want to make sure the math checks out. Your calculation looks spot on. The key thing to remember is that each employer withholds Social Security tax independently without knowing what other employers have withheld from you during the year. So even though your total wages might be well below the $168,600 limit, you can still end up with excess withholding. When you respond to their letter, make sure to include: 1. Copies of both W-2s (not originals) 2. A simple calculation showing the excess like you did here 3. Your SSN written on every page 4. A copy of their letter Send it certified mail so you have proof of delivery. In my experience, once they see the W-2s, they process the refund pretty quickly. This is definitely not audit territory - just routine verification. Don't stress about it!
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