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Laila Fury

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a very similar situation but with a twist - my husband and I both have family HDHPs through our respective employers, and we're covering different kids (from previous marriages). From what I'm reading here, it sounds like we'd each be able to contribute the full family limit ($8,300 each for 2025) since we have separate qualifying plans. But I'm worried about the IRS marriage limitation rule someone mentioned earlier. Has anyone dealt with this specific scenario where both spouses have family HDHPs covering different dependents? I want to make sure I understand the rules correctly before we max out both accounts. The last thing I want is to deal with excess contribution penalties!

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Emma Swift

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Your situation is actually even more straightforward than the original poster's! Since you both have family HDHPs through separate employers, you're each eligible for the full family contribution limit of $8,300 for 2025. The marriage limitation rule only applies when spouses are trying to split contributions under the same plan or when one spouse doesn't have their own qualifying HDHP. Since you both have separate qualifying family plans, you can each contribute the maximum to your respective HSAs. The fact that you're covering different kids doesn't change the HSA contribution rules - what matters is that you each have your own qualifying HDHP coverage. I'd still recommend double-checking with a tax professional or using one of the tools mentioned in this thread to verify your specific plan details, but from what you've described, you should be good to max out both accounts!

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm a tax professional and see this exact question come up frequently with my clients. Just wanted to confirm what others have said here is correct. When spouses have separate HSA-qualified HDHPs (whether both family plans or a mix of family/individual), each spouse can contribute up to their respective plan's maximum limit. The "marriage limitation" that caps total family contributions at the family limit ($8,300 for 2025) only applies when spouses are covered under the same HDHP or when one spouse lacks qualifying coverage. One additional tip I always give clients: make sure to keep good documentation of your separate coverage throughout the year. The IRS may ask for proof that you maintained separate qualifying HDHPs if they review your HSA contributions. Also, remember that these contribution limits are annual limits, so if either of you changes jobs or coverage mid-year, you'll need to prorate based on the months of coverage under each plan type. For anyone still unsure about their specific situation, IRS Publication 969 has the detailed rules, or consider consulting with a tax professional who can review your actual plan documents.

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Diego Chavez

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I went through something very similar when I started at a different tax prep chain last year! The lack of training was honestly shocking - they threw me right into client meetings without even explaining the basic software. What helped me was being upfront with clients about my role. I started saying something like "I'm going to gather all your information and get everything entered, then one of our tax professionals will review everything with you and handle any questions." Most clients were actually fine with this once they understood the process. Also, don't be afraid to take notes during your shifts about things you don't understand, then look them up later or ask the senior preparers when they're not swamped. I kept a little notebook of common forms and what they meant. It gets easier once you see the same situations a few times! The good news is this experience will actually teach you a lot about real-world tax situations that you won't get in textbooks. Just remember - you're doing data entry, not making tax decisions, so don't stress too much about being the expert.

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NeonNova

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This is really helpful advice! I especially like the idea of being upfront about my role - I think that would eliminate a lot of the awkwardness I'm feeling when clients sit down expecting me to be their tax expert. The notebook idea is brilliant too. I've been trying to remember everything but writing it down makes so much more sense. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's reassuring to know this situation isn't unique to me!

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Ava Martinez

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I'm a tax professional who's been in the industry for over a decade, and I want to assure you that what you're experiencing is unfortunately very common during tax season. The big chains often hire temporary staff as "intake specialists" or "client service professionals" without being completely transparent about the role. Here's what you should know: You are NOT preparing tax returns - you're doing data collection and entry. The actual tax preparation, review, and legal responsibility falls on the enrolled agents, CPAs, or other qualified preparers who review your work. This is why you can't sign returns or give tax advice. My advice: 1) Ask your manager for access to any training modules they have, even basic ones about common forms. 2) Create a simple reference sheet of the most common forms you see (W-2, 1099s, etc.) and what they're for. 3) Be transparent with clients about your role - something like "I'll be gathering your information today, and then one of our tax professionals will review everything with you." The silver lining is that this exposure to real tax documents and situations will be incredibly valuable for your accounting degree. You're learning practical application that many students don't get. Just remember - when in doubt, always defer to the qualified preparer. Better to ask too many questions than to make assumptions about tax law.

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - don't forget about FBAR requirements! Even after you surrender your green card, if you had $10,000+ across all foreign (non-US) accounts at any point during the year you lived in the US, you still need to file the FBAR form. I got hit with a massive penalty for missing this when I moved back to Europe.

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Yes! And also remember there's an exit tax procedure for some green card holders when they surrender their permanent residency. If you've had your green card for 8+ years or have over a certain net worth, you're considered a "long-term resident" and have to file Form 8854. Definitely look into this before you leave.

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Luca Marino

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This is a really complex situation that involves both US and UK tax law! A few additional points to consider beyond what others have mentioned: First, make sure you understand the timing of your move in relation to tax years. The UK tax year runs April 6 to April 5, while the US follows the calendar year. This can create some interesting split-year situations that affect how you report income in both countries. Second, regarding your W-8BEN form - you'll need to be careful about when you submit it. You can only claim treaty benefits as a UK resident once you've actually established UK tax residency. The distributors will need updated forms, and there might be a transition period where you're still subject to the higher withholding rates. Also worth noting: some music royalties might be classified differently depending on whether they're mechanical royalties, performance royalties, or sync licensing fees. The treaty treatment can vary based on the specific type of royalty income. Finally, consider keeping detailed records of your income sources and any taxes withheld during your transition year. You'll likely need to file partial-year returns in both countries for the year you move, and having clear documentation will make this much easier. The international tax rules for creative professionals are genuinely complicated, so getting professional help from someone experienced with US-UK tax issues is probably your best bet for navigating this correctly.

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Kaitlyn Otto

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you for breaking down all these nuances! I hadn't even thought about the split tax year issue between US and UK. Just to clarify, when you mention "partial-year returns in both countries," does that mean I'd file a regular 1040 for the US portion of the year when I'm still a permanent resident, then switch to 1040NR for any remaining US-source income after I surrender my green card? And on the UK side, would I file as a partial-year resident or does the UK have different rules for when tax residency begins?

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Emma Taylor

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Just want to point out that even if you miss the deadline, it's not the end of the world. I completely missed my CP566 response deadline by about 3 weeks because the notice got lost in the mail and I only found out when I called to check on my application status. I still sent in the requested documents with a letter explaining why I was late, and my ITIN was approved without any issues. It just delayed the whole process by a few weeks. The IRS isn't as rigid as people think, especially for ITIN applications where they understand many applicants have international complications.

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That's actually really good to know. I've been stressing about my mom's ITIN application because we're about to hit the deadline and still gathering some documents from her home country. Did you do anything special in your explanation letter or just keep it simple?

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now with my ITIN application. Got my CP566 notice last week and I'm supposed to be out of the country for work until mid-January. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - I had no idea there were so many options available. I think I'm going to try calling the IRS directly first using that number Connor mentioned (1-800-908-9982) to see if they can note my account about the travel. If that doesn't work, the Claimyr service sounds promising based on the experiences shared here, especially since Natasha had success with it after being initially skeptical. One question for those who've been through this - when you called the IRS to explain international travel, did you need to provide any proof of your travel plans (like flight confirmations) or did they just take your word for it? I want to be prepared with whatever documentation they might need when I call. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences. This community has been a lifesaver for navigating these confusing IRS processes!

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When I called about my international travel situation, they didn't ask for any proof upfront - they just took my word for it and noted my account. However, I'd still recommend having your travel documentation ready just in case you get an agent who wants to see it. Flight confirmations, work visa, or employment letter showing your international assignment would be good to have on hand. The key is being proactive and calling before the deadline expires rather than after. The agents seem much more willing to work with you when you're communicating ahead of time rather than trying to explain after you've already missed it. Good luck with your call!

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Mei Lin

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I went through this exact confusion last year! You're right to be puzzled because the relationship between AGI and AMTI isn't straightforward. Here's what I learned: Even if your AGI is higher than your AMTI, you can still owe AMT. The key comparison is between your "tentative minimum tax" (calculated from your AMTI) and your regular tax liability - whichever is higher is what you pay. Think of it this way: AGI and AMTI are just different starting points for calculating taxes under two parallel systems. Your AMTI might be lower than your AGI because certain deductions that reduce your AGI aren't allowed when calculating AMTI, but you're adding back other preference items. With your income level, I'd definitely recommend completing Form 6251 or having your tax software do it automatically. The AMT exemption does phase out at higher incomes, so it's worth checking. Don't rely on the AGI vs AMTI comparison alone - that's not the determining factor for AMT liability. Hope this helps clarify things! The AMT system is genuinely confusing even for experienced filers.

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This is such a helpful explanation! I've been struggling with the same confusion as the original poster. Your point about AGI and AMTI being "different starting points for calculating taxes under two parallel systems" really clicked for me. I think what's been throwing me off is that intuitively it seems like if your regular AGI is higher, you'd automatically owe more in regular taxes and thus avoid AMT. But you're right that there are all these preference items and disallowed deductions that can make the AMT calculation completely different. I'm definitely going to bite the bullet and work through Form 6251 properly instead of trying to take shortcuts. Better to understand it now than get surprised later! Thanks for sharing your experience.

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Emma Garcia

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@Giovanni Rossi Exactly! That intuitive assumption trips up so many people - I made the same mistake initially. What really helped me understand it was thinking of AMT as a completely separate tax calculation that just happens to use some of the same starting information. One thing that might help as you work through Form 6251: pay special attention to lines 2-6 where you add back the preference items. These are often things like state and local tax deductions that reduce your regular taxable income but aren t'allowed for AMT purposes. That s'typically where you ll'see why someone might have a lower AMTI but still end up owing AMT. Also, don t'get discouraged if the form seems overwhelming at first - I had to go through it twice before it really made sense! The IRS instructions for Form 6251 are actually pretty helpful once you get past the jargon.

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Alfredo Lugo

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Great question! This is one of the most common AMT misconceptions. The relationship between AGI and AMTI actually doesn't determine whether you're subject to AMT at all. Here's the key: AMT works by running two completely separate tax calculations - your regular tax and your "tentative minimum tax." You pay whichever amount is higher. So even if your AGI exceeds your AMTI, you could still owe AMT if your tentative minimum tax (calculated from your AMTI) is higher than your regular tax liability. Your AMTI starts with your taxable income, then adds back certain "preference items" like state/local tax deductions, some depreciation methods, and bargain elements from stock options. These adjustments can create situations where your AMTI is lower than your AGI but still generates a higher tax liability under the AMT system. With your income level and the complexity you're describing, I'd strongly recommend actually completing Form 6251 (or having your tax software do it). The form will show you exactly whether you owe AMT by comparing your tentative minimum tax to your regular tax. Don't try to shortcut it by comparing AGI to AMTI - that comparison doesn't tell you what you need to know about your actual AMT liability.

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