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Has anyone successfully used their ITIN instead of an SSN for the TikTok verification? I'm not a US citizen but live here on a visa, and I'm stuck on the verification page.
As someone who works in tax preparation, I want to emphasize that using your SSN for TikTok's Creator Fund verification is completely legitimate for minors. The key thing to understand is that a TIN (Tax Identification Number) is just the umbrella term that includes SSNs, ITINs, and EINs. For your 17-year-old brother, he should use his SSN as his TIN. When he starts earning from the Creator Fund, he'll need to track that income and report it on his tax return if it exceeds the filing threshold. Even if it doesn't, it's good practice to file anyway since TikTok will likely send him a 1099 form. One important consideration: if he expects to earn over $400 from TikTok this year, he'll owe self-employment tax on that income, which means he should consider making quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid penalties. This is something many young creators don't realize until tax time. The Montana LLC idea is definitely unnecessary and creates more complexity than it solves. Keep it simple and legitimate with his SSN!
This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the self-employment tax aspect you mentioned. If a minor is earning from TikTok Creator Fund, do they need to file Schedule SE along with their regular tax return? And at what point would they need to start making quarterly payments - is it based on the total expected annual income or just when they hit certain monthly thresholds? Also, does the self-employment tax apply even if they're still claimed as a dependent by their parents? I want to make sure I understand this correctly before my brother gets started.
Great thread! I wanted to add one more important consideration for your specific situation, Lena. Since you mentioned you're expecting about $1 million in taxable income from your partnership, you should be aware of the Section 179 income limitation. For 2025, the Section 179 deduction begins to phase out when you purchase more than $3.05 million in qualifying property during the year, and it's completely eliminated if you exceed $4.27 million. But more importantly for most people, your total Section 179 deduction cannot exceed your taxable income from all active businesses. In your case with $1M in income, this shouldn't be a problem, but it's something to keep in mind. Also, since you mentioned you own two accounting firms, make sure you're considering the aggregate income from both businesses when calculating your eligible deduction amount. One last tip: If you're considering multiple vehicle purchases, remember that the $28,900 SUV cap applies per vehicle, not per taxpayer. So if you bought two qualifying SUVs, you could potentially take up to $57,800 in Section 179 deductions (subject to your business use percentage for each).
Thanks for bringing up the income limitations, Charlee! This is really helpful context. I hadn't fully considered how the aggregate income from both my accounting firms would factor into the Section 179 calculations. Your point about the per-vehicle SUV cap is particularly interesting - I was thinking it was a total limit, but if I could potentially get $28,900 per qualifying SUV, that changes my planning significantly. Quick question: When you mention "taxable income from all active businesses," does that include the full K-1 income I receive from my partnership, or are there adjustments I need to make for passive vs. active income classification? I want to make sure I'm calculating my eligible deduction base correctly before making any major vehicle purchases.
Great question about the active vs. passive income classification! For Section 179 purposes, you need taxable income from the active conduct of any trade or business. Since you're actively involved in both accounting firms as an owner-operator, the K-1 income from your partnership should generally qualify as active business income. However, there are a few nuances to consider: The income must be from businesses where you materially participate. As an accounting firm owner, you almost certainly meet the material participation tests, so your K-1 income should count toward your Section 179 income limitation. Just be aware that if you have any passive rental income or other passive activities, those wouldn't count toward your Section 179 income base. But salary, self-employment income, and active business income from partnerships (like your situation) all qualify. Also, remember that the income limitation is calculated after considering all your business deductions, not just gross income. So your $1M figure should work well for Section 179 planning, assuming that's your net taxable business income rather than gross receipts.
This is such a comprehensive discussion! I wanted to add one more consideration that might be relevant for your situation, Lena. Since you're dealing with a high-value luxury vehicle like the Mercedes EQS SUV, you should also be aware of the luxury auto limitations that can interact with Section 179. Even though the Section 179 SUV cap is $28,900 for 2025, if your vehicle falls under the luxury auto rules (which vehicles over $64,300 typically do), there are additional depreciation limitations that can affect your total first-year deduction when combining Section 179 with bonus depreciation. For luxury vehicles in 2025, the first-year depreciation cap (including Section 179 and bonus depreciation combined) is around $21,560 for passenger automobiles, though SUVs over 6,000 lbs GVWR are generally exempt from these luxury auto limits - which is actually another advantage of choosing qualifying heavy SUVs. Since your Mercedes EQS SUV meets the weight requirement, you should be able to take the full $28,900 Section 179 deduction plus 80% bonus depreciation on the remaining business-use portion without hitting the luxury auto caps. This is one of the key reasons why many business owners specifically choose SUVs over 6,000 lbs - they avoid both the luxury auto limitations and can access the more favorable depreciation treatment. Just make sure to confirm the exact GVWR specification with the dealer, as sometimes different trim levels of the same model can have slightly different weights that might affect eligibility.
This is incredibly helpful, Isaac! I had no idea about the luxury auto limitations and how they interact with Section 179. The fact that SUVs over 6,000 lbs GVWR are exempt from those luxury auto caps makes the Mercedes EQS SUV even more attractive from a tax perspective. Your point about confirming the exact GVWR with the dealer is spot on - I'll definitely double-check that the specific trim level I'm considering actually meets the 6,000+ lb requirement. It would be devastating to make a $200,000 purchase assuming I'll get the favorable tax treatment, only to find out later that the vehicle doesn't qualify. One follow-up question: You mentioned 80% bonus depreciation for 2025. Is this percentage scheduled to decrease further in future years? I'm wondering if there's any advantage to making this purchase in 2025 versus waiting until 2026, aside from just needing the vehicle for business purposes now. Thanks again for all the detailed insights - this thread has been more helpful than hours of research on my own!
This might be a dumb question, but why is everyone saying "2% shareholder" specifically? Is there something special about 2% or is that just a term for any family member regardless of the actual percentage?
Not a dumb question! "2% shareholder" is just IRS terminology for any shareholder who owns more than 2% of the S-Corporation's stock (directly or through attribution). Special fringe benefit rules apply to these shareholders. So even though the original poster's father owns 100%, and through attribution the son and daughter-in-law are deemed to own 100%, they're all referred to as "2% shareholders" because they each exceed that 2% threshold that triggers the special tax treatment.
I went through this exact situation a few years ago when my sister-in-law joined our family's S-Corp. What really helped us was getting clear documentation from our CPA about how to properly handle the W-2 reporting. One thing that wasn't mentioned yet - make sure you're consistent with how you treat ALL family members subject to the attribution rules. The IRS will look for consistency across your family employees during an audit. We learned this the hard way when they questioned why we were handling health benefits differently for different family members who should have been treated the same under Section 318. Also, don't forget that if your wife is considered a 2% shareholder, this affects more than just health insurance - it also impacts other fringe benefits like group term life insurance over $50K, parking benefits, and dependent care assistance. The attribution rules create a package deal for tax treatment. The self-employed health insurance deduction does help offset the income inclusion, but as others mentioned, you'll still pay the extra FICA taxes. We found it was worth running the numbers both ways to see the actual cost difference.
This is really helpful advice about consistency! I hadn't thought about the other fringe benefits being affected too. Quick question - when you say "running the numbers both ways," do you mean comparing having the S-Corp pay the premiums versus having the employee pay them directly? What factors should we consider in that calculation besides just the FICA tax difference?
Hey @Abigail Spencer! Congrats on the new job! š This is such a common question for new grads - definitely not silly at all! I just went through this exact same situation a few months ago when I started my first full-time position. After reading through all the great advice here, I'm totally convinced that going with your parents' address is the way to go, especially since you mentioned you're moving next month and aren't sure how permanent the new apartment will be. I made the mistake of using my apartment address initially and then stressed for months about whether my mail would actually reach me when I inevitably moved again (which I did!). The reliability factor that everyone's mentioned is so important. I ended up switching to my parents' address after my first paycheck because I realized how much peace of mind it would give me during tax season. My parents are way better at keeping track of important mail than I am anyway! š Definitely ask about electronic W-2 delivery too - that seems like it's becoming the standard and would solve this whole dilemma. Some of the payroll platforms like ADP make it super easy to opt in. One small tip: if you do go with your parents' address, maybe give them a heads up about when to expect tax documents (usually late January/early February) so they know to watch for them. You're being really smart by thinking this through ahead of time instead of just randomly picking an address. Shows you're going to handle this whole transition to working life really well! Good luck with everything! š
@Connor Byrne This is such great advice! I love the point about giving parents a heads up about when to expect tax documents - that s'definitely something I wouldn t'have thought of but makes total sense. My parents are pretty good about letting me know when important mail arrives, but having them specifically watch for tax stuff in late January/February is really smart. The peace of mind factor seems to be a common theme throughout this whole discussion, and honestly that s'worth a lot when you re'already dealing with all the other stresses of starting a new job and transitioning to post-grad life. I m'definitely leaning toward the parents address' route after reading everyone s'experiences here. It just seems like the most practical choice given that I m'still in that figuring "things out phase" where my living situation could change. Thanks for sharing your experience with switching addresses after your first paycheck - it s'reassuring to know that these decisions aren t'set in stone and you can always adjust if needed. This whole thread has been so incredibly helpful for navigating something that feels like it should be simple but actually has quite a few considerations! Really appreciate all the encouragement too - it s'so nice to connect with other recent grads who ve'been through this same confusion! š
This has been such an incredibly helpful discussion to read through! As someone who's also navigating the post-graduation "real world" transition, I can't tell you how reassuring it is to see that so many people have faced this exact same dilemma. The consensus here seems really clear: reliability and stability trump everything else when it comes to tax documents. After reading about @Liam Mendez's experience with his W-2 getting sent to his old apartment and the hassle of getting a replacement, I'm definitely convinced that using a stable address (like parents') is the smart move during this transitional phase of life. What really stands out to me is how many people mentioned the electronic W-2 option - I honestly had no idea this was becoming so common! It seems like the perfect solution for avoiding address concerns altogether. I'm definitely going to make that one of my first questions when I start looking for jobs. @Abigail Spencer - based on everything I've read here, it sounds like you really can't go wrong either way as long as you choose the address where you're most confident about receiving your documents. But given that you're moving next month and aren't sure about long-term stability, your parents' address seems like the safest bet! Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and advice. This is exactly the kind of practical guidance they should teach in college but never do. It's amazing how supportive this community is for helping us figure out all these "adulting" challenges! š
@Freya Andersen You ve'captured the key takeaways from this discussion perfectly! As another newcomer trying to navigate all this post-grad complexity, I m'so grateful for threads like this where people share their real experiences rather than just generic advice. The electronic W-2 point keeps coming up and honestly seems like such a game-changer. I m'kicking myself for not knowing about this option sooner - it would have saved me so much anxiety about address changes! Definitely going on my list of questions to ask HR. What I love most about this community is how everyone s'been so willing to share their mistakes and lessons learned. @Liam Mendez s story'about the W-2 mix-up was exactly the kind of real-world example that helps put everything in perspective. These are the scenarios you never think about until they happen to you! @Abigail Spencer - this whole discussion has been such a masterclass in thinking through important decisions. You re definitely not'overthinking it, and the fact that you asked upfront shows great judgment. Whatever you decide, you re clearly approaching'your career transition with the right mindset! Thanks everyone for making this such an educational and supportive conversation. It s threads like'this that make me feel way less alone in figuring out all the adult stuff they "don" t teach you'in school! š
Tyrone Hill
This is such a complex situation, but you're definitely asking the right questions! One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the importance of understanding the "tie-breaker rules" if you and your girlfriend both have a potential claim to her child as a dependent. Even if you've been providing more than half the support for your girlfriend's child since moving in together, the IRS has specific tie-breaker rules when multiple people could potentially claim the same child. Since you're not married and you're not the biological parent, your girlfriend would generally have the stronger claim as the parent, regardless of who provided more support. However, there's an exception if your girlfriend agrees to let you claim her child by not claiming them on her own return. This is where the strategic filing approach mentioned earlier becomes really important - you'd want to run the numbers to see if it's beneficial for her to "give up" her right to claim her child so you can claim them instead. Also, don't forget that if you do get married before December 31st, 2024, it changes everything - you'd be able to file jointly and wouldn't need to worry about these dependency complications since you'd be considered one tax household. Given the potential for thousands of dollars in credits and the complexity of blended family situations, I'd really recommend getting professional help this year to make sure you're optimizing everything correctly and staying compliant with all the rules.
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Dylan Baskin
ā¢This is such an important point about the tie-breaker rules that I don't think gets enough attention! You're absolutely right that as the biological parent, my girlfriend would have the stronger claim to her child regardless of support provided. I hadn't really thought about the strategic aspect of her voluntarily "giving up" her claim so I could potentially claim the child instead. This really emphasizes why running the numbers both ways is so crucial. It sounds like we need to calculate not just who CAN claim whom, but who SHOULD claim whom to maximize our combined benefit. The tie-breaker rules definitely add another layer of complexity to an already complicated situation. Your point about marriage changing everything is also really thought-provoking. It's wild how getting married by December 31st could completely simplify the tax situation, even though it obviously shouldn't be the primary reason for such a major life decision! I think you're right about getting professional help this year. With all these moving pieces - the timing of when we moved in together, the baby born mid-year, the adoption in progress, multiple potential filing strategies - it seems like the kind of situation where paying for expert advice could easily pay for itself through optimized credits and avoiding costly mistakes.
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Carter Holmes
This thread has been incredibly thorough and helpful! I'm in a somewhat similar situation (supporting my partner's kids) and wanted to add one more consideration that might be relevant - make sure you understand the implications for next year's advance Child Tax Credit payments if those resume. Whatever dependency claims you make on your 2024 return will likely determine who receives those monthly payments starting in 2025. If you and your girlfriend split the children as dependents (which seems like it might be optimal based on the discussion above), make sure whoever claims each child has their banking information updated with the IRS. Also, since you mentioned the adoption is in progress, once that's finalized you'll want to update the dependency arrangements accordingly. The adopted child would then qualify as your "qualifying child" rather than "qualifying relative," which could change the optimal filing strategy. One practical tip - consider opening a separate savings account just for tracking child-related expenses (daycare, medical, clothing, etc.) for each child. It makes the support calculations much clearer and gives you bulletproof documentation if needed. I learned this the hard way after scrambling through a year's worth of receipts! Good luck with everything - it sounds like you're being really thoughtful about optimizing this complex situation!
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MidnightRider
ā¢This is such great practical advice about planning ahead for the advance payments! I hadn't even thought about how our 2024 filing decisions would affect who gets those monthly payments next year. That's definitely another factor to consider when deciding whether to split the children between us or have me claim both. The separate savings account idea is brilliant - I wish I had thought of that back in January! Right now I'm trying to piece together support calculations from credit card statements and bank records, which is proving to be a nightmare. Starting a dedicated account for each child's expenses going forward would make next year so much easier. Your point about the adoption changing the filing strategy is really important too. Once that's finalized, it sounds like it could shift the optimal approach since the child would have a stronger connection to me for tax purposes. I should probably factor that timing into our decision-making process. One question - do you know if there's a way to update the IRS about dependency changes mid-year if the adoption finalizes in 2025? Or would we need to wait until the following tax season to adjust everything? I want to make sure we're not stuck with suboptimal advance payment arrangements if the legal situation changes. Thanks for adding these forward-thinking considerations - it's exactly the kind of long-term perspective I needed!
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