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Yara Khalil

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Something similar happened to me and it turned out I had checked the wrong box on step 2 of the W4. I had checked 2(b) which is the "use the multiple jobs worksheet" option instead of 2(c) "if there is only one job total". This made the system think I needed to withhold at a higher rate to cover multiple jobs. Rookie mistake but easy to fix!

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Keisha Brown

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Which tax software do you recommend for figuring this stuff out? I've been using TurboTax but it doesn't really help with W4 planning during the year.

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Chloe Taylor

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The W4 form definitely takes some getting used to after the old allowances system! Based on your situation, I'd suggest double-checking a few key areas: 1. **Step 1**: Make sure you selected "Married filing jointly" not "Single or Married filing separately" 2. **Step 2(c)**: Since your spouse doesn't work, you should check the box that says "If there is only one job total" 3. **Step 3**: Enter $2,000 for your child (qualifying children under 17 get the full Child Tax Credit) Missing any of these could easily cause the overwithholding you're experiencing. The good news is you can submit a corrected W4 to your payroll department anytime - it usually takes effect within 1-2 pay periods. For future reference, the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator tool on their website is really helpful for getting your withholding dialed in perfectly. It walks you through your exact situation and tells you exactly what to put on each line of the W4. Don't worry about the money already over-withheld - you'll get it back as a refund when you file your taxes!

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Ali Anderson

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This is such great advice! I'm a newcomer here but dealing with a similar situation after starting my first "real" job out of college. The W4 form is honestly so confusing compared to what I expected. Quick question - when you submit a corrected W4, do you need to give any explanation to HR about why you're changing it, or do they just process it without questions? I'm a bit embarrassed that I messed it up initially and don't want to seem incompetent to my new employer. Also, is there a way to estimate how much extra I might get per paycheck once the correction takes effect? I'm trying to budget better and it would be helpful to know roughly what to expect.

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GalacticGuru

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I've heard that the EITC is different for each tax year because of inflation adjustments. Does anyone know what the threshold was for 2021? I'm trying to figure out if I should amend my return.

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For 2021, the threshold for singles with no kids was usually $15,980, but there were special expanded rules because of COVID relief. The age range was 19-64 (instead of the usual 25-64) and I think the max income was around $21,430 for singles with no qualifying children. It was a one-time expansion just for 2021.

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GalacticGuru

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Thanks for the info! I might have qualified under those expanded rules. Definitely going to look into amending my 2021 return now.

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Just wanted to add some context about why you might be behind on your taxes - the IRS has been dealing with massive processing delays, especially for amended returns. Your February 2022 amended return not getting processed until December 2022 is unfortunately pretty typical of what many people experienced during that period. For your current situation, as others have mentioned, you're just over the 2022 EITC threshold. But definitely keep those expanded 2021 rules in mind that @Freya Pedersen mentioned - if you were between 19-24 in 2021, you might have qualified under the special COVID provisions even if you didn't think you were eligible at the time. The income limits were much higher that year, so it's worth double-checking your 2021 situation. Also, make sure you're calculating your AGI correctly. Your AGI should generally be close to your earned income if you're just filing a basic return with W-2 income. If there's a big difference between your W-2 wages ($13,100) and your calculated AGI ($16,800), you might want to double-check that calculation or see if there are other income sources you forgot about.

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Just to add some practical advice - whether or not you form an LLC, definitely keep track of ALL your business expenses for your photography work. Gear, software, travel to shoots, portion of home used exclusively for business, etc. These are deductible regardless of how you're classified. If you are properly an independent contractor (which doesn't sound like the case here), you'd report these on Schedule C. If you're an employee, some expenses might be eligible as unreimbursed employee business expenses, though the tax benefits are more limited since the 2017 tax law changes. But the classification issue is the bigger concern. If you're being treated like an employee, you should be classified as one, LLC or not.

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Thanks for the expense tracking advice! I've been pretty bad about keeping receipts for my photography gear purchases. Will employee classification affect how I can deduct my camera equipment? I spent about $3200 on a new camera body last year.

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As an independent contractor, you could deduct the full cost of that $3200 camera on your Schedule C, either all at once using Section 179 expensing (if you qualify) or through depreciation over several years. This would directly reduce your self-employment income and the associated taxes. As an employee, unfortunately, the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act suspended the deduction for unreimbursed employee business expenses through 2025. This means you generally can't deduct that camera purchase on your taxes if you're classified as an employee unless your employer reimburses you through an accountable plan. This is actually one of the few tax advantages of being an independent contractor, though it rarely outweighs the higher self-employment taxes and loss of benefits that come with employee status.

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Jayden Reed

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - if you do decide to form an LLC (for your legitimate freelance photography, separate from your employment situation), consider talking to an insurance agent about professional liability insurance. An LLC provides some protection, but having insurance is even better protection against potential lawsuits from unsatisfied clients. I learned this the hard way when a wedding client sued me after claiming I missed important moments. My LLC helped, but having insurance would have saved me thousands in legal fees even though I eventually won the case.

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Nora Brooks

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What kind of insurance would cover photography work specifically? Is it expensive? I've been doing weddings and portraits for 3 years with no business structure at all and now I'm worried...

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Emma Wilson

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Professional liability insurance for photographers typically covers errors and omissions, copyright infringement claims, and failure to deliver services as promised. General liability covers accidents at shoots (like if someone trips over your equipment). You can get both bundled - I pay about $400/year for $1M coverage through companies like Hill & Usher or TCP (The Coverage Professionals). Some even cover equipment theft/damage. Definitely worth it for wedding work especially - one lawsuit could cost way more than years of premiums!

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One thing to watch out for - make sure you're using the correct tax forms for each year! The 2020 forms are different from current ones because of the special Covid provisions. I made this mistake and had to refile because I downloaded the wrong year's forms.

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This is super important advice. I work at a tax prep office, and we see this mistake constantly with DIY late filers. Each tax year has specific forms and rules. For example, the Recovery Rebate Credit worksheet for 2020 is completely different from the one for 2021. And some tax breaks existed in one year but not others.

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Zara Mirza

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Hey there! I totally understand that anxiety about getting behind on taxes - life happens and sometimes important stuff falls through the cracks, especially after major life changes like divorce. The good news is you're not in as bad a spot as you might think! Since you're making around $38k annually, you're likely eligible for several credits that could actually result in refunds rather than owing money. The Earned Income Credit alone could be worth $1,500+ depending on your filing status and any dependents. A few quick points to ease your mind: - You have until May 2024 to file 2020 and still claim any refund (including those Covid credits) - If you're due refunds, there are no late filing penalties - you just don't get your money until you file - The IRS has been pretty understanding about Covid-related delays Don't let the fear keep you from filing - in many cases, people in your income range end up getting money back even when filing late. The sooner you start, the sooner you'll know exactly where you stand and can move forward with peace of mind.

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This is such a reassuring perspective! I'm dealing with a similar situation and was really worried about what filing late would mean financially. When you mention the Earned Income Credit could be worth $1,500+ - is that per year? So potentially I could get that for each of the years I haven't filed yet (2020, 2021, 2022)? Also, you mentioned filing status affecting the credit amount - I got divorced in 2020 so I'm not sure if I should file as single or head of household for these back years. Does the filing status impact how much I might get back in credits?

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Anyone know if there's a difference in refund amounts typically between filing 1040 vs 1040NR for students? I filed 1040 last year cuz that's what turbotax recommended but now wondering if I should have done 1040NR instead. My country (india) has a tax treaty with US so maybe i missed out on some benefits?

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KylieRose

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There can be HUGE differences! On 1040NR you can claim tax treaty benefits that might exempt some scholarship or income. BUT you also can't claim standard deduction the same way and some tax credits aren't available to nonresidents. For India specifically, there are education-related treaty benefits for students. You might want to look into amending last year's return if you were within your 5 exempt years.

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LilMama23

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As someone who went through this exact same confusion with my F-1 status, I can confirm what others have said - the 5-year exempt individual rule is key here! Your roommate should definitely file 1040NR for his first 5 calendar years in the US, regardless of being here over 183 days. The W-2 from his on-campus job doesn't change which form to use - nonresidents can still receive W-2s and file 1040NR. For the South Korea tax treaty, there are specific benefits for students that he can only claim on the 1040NR form. Article 20 of the US-Korea treaty typically covers student income exemptions. One thing I learned the hard way - make sure he checks if his university incorrectly withheld FICA taxes (Social Security/Medicare) from his paychecks. F-1 students are generally exempt from FICA for their first 5 years, so if they withheld these taxes, he can get a refund by filing Form 843 with his university payroll office. The tax software like TurboTax often gets this wrong for international students, so definitely stick with 1040NR for now. Good luck!

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Ravi Sharma

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This is super helpful! I had no idea about the FICA tax exemption for F-1 students. My university has been withholding Social Security and Medicare taxes from my on-campus job for the past 2 years - I just assumed it was normal. Do you know if there's a time limit for requesting those refunds? And does the Form 843 process typically take long to get processed by the university payroll office? Also wondering about the Korea tax treaty benefits you mentioned - are those automatic when filing 1040NR or do you have to specifically claim them somewhere on the form? Thanks for sharing your experience!

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