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Based on my experience helping clients with inherited property basis determinations, I'd say your approach of using Zillow estimates and tax assessments is understandable but carries some risk, especially since you're planning to rent the property and claim depreciation. The $30,000 spread between your Zillow estimate ($425,000) and tax assessment ($395,000) is actually reasonable - about 7.5% variance, which isn't unusual for property valuations. However, the IRS prefers "best evidence" of fair market value at the date of death, and online estimates or tax assessments alone may not hold up well under scrutiny. Here's what I'd recommend as a practical compromise: Use the Zillow estimate as your baseline since it's higher and more favorable for your stepped-up basis, but strengthen your documentation significantly. Get a comparative market analysis (CMA) from a local real estate agent specifically dated to your uncle's date of death - many agents will do this for free, especially if you mention potential future business. Also, pull comparable sales data from properties that sold within 3-6 months of the death date in the same neighborhood. Document the property's condition with photos and any known issues that might affect value. This creates a defensible paper trail showing you made good-faith efforts to determine fair market value. Given the property value and your depreciation plans, consider this documentation as insurance against potential audit issues. The small cost and effort now could save significant headaches later.

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This is really excellent comprehensive advice! I appreciate the practical approach of using the Zillow estimate as a baseline while building stronger supporting documentation. The 7.5% variance perspective is reassuring too - I was worried that gap might be a red flag. I'm definitely going to pursue the CMA route now. Several people have mentioned that agents will often do these for free, especially with potential future business. Do you have any tips on how to approach agents about this? Should I be upfront about it being for tax basis purposes, or frame it differently? Also, regarding the comparable sales data - are there any specific details I should make sure to capture beyond just sale prices and dates? Things like square footage, lot size, condition differences, etc.? I want to make sure if I'm going to build this documentation, I'm doing it thoroughly enough to actually strengthen my position. Thanks for breaking down the risk/benefit analysis so clearly. It really helps to understand that this is about building a defensible position rather than finding the perfect number.

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When approaching agents about a CMA for tax basis purposes, I'd recommend being completely transparent. Most experienced agents understand estate and inheritance situations and are familiar with providing valuations for tax purposes. You can say something like: "I inherited a property and need to establish its fair market value as of the date of death for tax basis purposes. Would you be able to provide a comparative market analysis dated to [specific date]?" For comparable sales data, you'll want to capture key details that affect value: square footage, lot size, number of bedrooms/bathrooms, age of property, and any major condition differences (recent renovations, known issues, etc.). Also note the proximity to your property - ideally within a half-mile radius or the same subdivision. The sale date is crucial - you want sales within 3-6 months of the death date, with preference for closer dates. Document any adjustments the agent makes for differences between your property and the comps. For example, if a comparable had a recently updated kitchen and yours doesn't, that adjustment should be noted. This level of detail shows you're taking a methodical approach to valuation rather than just picking convenient numbers. Most agents will appreciate your thoroughness and professionalism in handling an inherited property situation properly.

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NebulaNinja

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I went through a very similar situation when I inherited my father's house last year. Like you, I was torn between wanting to avoid appraisal costs and ensuring I had solid documentation for the stepped-up basis. Here's what I ended up doing that worked well: I used the higher of my estimates (similar to your Zillow figure) but created a comprehensive documentation package. I got a free CMA from a local realtor who was experienced with estate properties, took extensive photos of the property's condition, and gathered sales data for 5 comparable properties that sold within 4 months of the date of death. The realtor was actually really helpful once I explained it was for establishing tax basis on an inherited property. She made sure to clearly date the analysis and document her methodology, which created a professional paper trail. One thing I learned that might help you: since you're planning to rent it out and claim depreciation, consider that your basis calculation will be scrutinized multiple times over the years through your rental property tax returns. Having solid documentation from the start gives you confidence in those ongoing filings. The combination approach (online estimate + professional CMA + comparable sales data + property photos) created what my tax preparer called a "defensible position" without the full cost of an appraisal. For a $400k+ property with rental income plans, it seemed like the right balance of thoroughness and cost-effectiveness.

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This is really helpful to hear from someone who actually went through the process! Your comprehensive documentation approach sounds like exactly the right balance I'm looking for. I'm curious about a couple of specifics from your experience: When you gathered sales data for the 5 comparable properties, did you do that research yourself or did the realtor include that in the CMA? I'm wondering if I should be doing my own independent research to supplement what the agent provides, or if a thorough CMA would cover that base. Also, you mentioned your tax preparer called it a "defensible position" - did they give you any sense of what would have made it even stronger, or did they feel confident it would hold up if questioned? I'm trying to gauge whether this approach truly puts me in a safe zone or if it's more of a calculated risk. The point about ongoing scrutiny through rental property returns is really important - I hadn't fully considered that this basis number will show up repeatedly over the years, not just when I eventually sell. That definitely reinforces the value of getting the documentation right from the start.

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Great advice in this thread! One thing I'd add - make sure you're keeping detailed records of ALL your income, not just what shows up on payment apps. I learned this lesson with my freelance work when the IRS asked for documentation during a review. Keep screenshots of payments, transaction histories, and any correspondence with buyers. Also, don't forget about potential business expenses! If you're buying props, lighting, or even specific nail polish/pedicures for your photos, those could be legitimate deductions. The key is that they have to be ordinary and necessary for your business. I'd recommend consulting with a tax professional at least once to make sure you're maximizing your deductions while staying compliant - it's usually worth the cost when you're dealing with self-employment income for the first time. Good luck with your business!

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This is such solid advice! The record-keeping part is so important - I wish someone had told me that when I started my online side business. I got lazy with documentation my first year and it was a nightmare trying to reconstruct everything at tax time. Now I literally screenshot every payment as it comes in and keep a simple spreadsheet. The business expense point is huge too. I was way too conservative my first year and probably missed out on hundreds in legitimate deductions. Things like the portion of your phone bill if you use it for business communications, or even a percentage of your internet costs since you're doing online sales. Just make sure you can justify how it relates to the business if anyone asks! @Mateo Sanchez do you have any recommendations for good tax professionals who understand online/digital businesses? A lot of the local accountants I ve'talked to seem confused by non-traditional income streams.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the importance of understanding your state tax obligations too! While everyone's focused on federal taxes (which is definitely priority #1), don't forget that most states also require you to report self-employment income on your state return. Some states have different thresholds or rules for small business income, and a few states don't have income tax at all. But if you're in a state like California or New York, you'll want to make sure you're compliant there too. Also, since you mentioned this is your first time with non-W2 income, I'd strongly recommend setting aside 25-30% of your earnings in a separate savings account specifically for taxes. It's better to overestimate and get a refund than to be caught short when tax time comes around. Self-employment taxes can be a shock if you're not prepared for them! The quarterly payment advice from earlier is spot on - once you hit that $1,000 threshold, the IRS really does expect those estimated payments. Missing them can result in penalties even if you pay everything when you file your return.

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This is really helpful advice about state taxes - I completely forgot about those when I started my online business! The 25-30% savings rule is golden too. I learned that lesson the hard way my first year when I spent everything as it came in and then got hit with a massive tax bill I wasn't prepared for. One question though - how do you figure out the quarterly payment amounts when your income is so irregular? Some months I might make $200, others $800. Do you just estimate based on your best guess for the year, or is there a better method for calculating those payments when your side hustle income fluctuates so much?

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I'm kind of in a similar situation, maybe? I didn't file for a few years and now I'm trying to catch up. Does anyone know if I need to file for all the missing years before I can file for 2023? And also, maybe this is a silly question, but does the IRS eventually tell you if you were supposed to file but didn't?

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GalaxyGlider

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@Andrew Pinnock You don't necessarily need to file all missing years before filing your current return - you can file them in any order. The IRS typically only requires you to file if you had income above the filing threshold for each year (which varies by year and filing status). As for your second question, the IRS usually doesn't proactively tell you that you should have filed unless they have records of income reported to them (like W-2s or 1099s) that would trigger a filing requirement. They might eventually send a notice if they detect unreported income, but this can take years. For catching up on multiple years, I'd suggest starting with the most recent year first since that's likely to have the biggest refund (if you're owed one), then work backwards. You can use prior year tax forms available on the IRS website. Just be aware that you can only claim refunds for the last 3 years - anything older than that, you lose the refund even if you were owed money.

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This is such great information from everyone! I'm actually an enrolled agent who helps nonprofits with tax compliance, and I wanted to add a few practical tips for your golf tournament. First, create a simple spreadsheet to track all sponsor contributions and what they receive in return. This will be invaluable when it comes time to issue proper acknowledgment letters. Include columns for: sponsor name, amount paid, description of benefits received, fair market value of benefits, and tax-deductible portion. Second, get everything in writing with the Huntington's Disease Foundation before you start collecting money. You'll want a formal fundraising agreement that specifies how funds will be transferred, who issues tax receipts, and what documentation they'll provide to your sponsors. Third, consider setting up separate sponsorship tiers - some that are purely charitable donations (no benefits) and others that include golf/dinner packages. This makes the tax calculations much cleaner for everyone involved. The IRS Publication 526 has excellent guidance on charitable contributions that might be helpful for your sponsors to reference. Good luck with your tournament - sounds like it's going to be a great event for an important cause!

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Carmen Lopez

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This is incredibly helpful advice! As someone just starting to navigate this process, the spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I can already see how that would keep everything organized and make it so much easier when we need to provide documentation to sponsors. One quick question about the fundraising agreement with the Huntington's Disease Foundation - should we reach out to them before we start approaching potential sponsors, or is it okay to get some initial interest from businesses first and then formalize everything with the charity? We're worried about putting the cart before the horse, but we also want to gauge interest before we commit to a formal agreement. Also, do you know if there are any specific requirements about how quickly we need to transfer the funds to the charity after the tournament? We were planning to do it within a few weeks, but want to make sure that's acceptable from a tax perspective.

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Great questions! I'd definitely recommend reaching out to the Huntington's Disease Foundation first before approaching sponsors. Here's why: many potential sponsors will want to verify the charity's legitimacy and may even want to speak directly with them. Having that formal agreement in place gives you credibility and shows you're organized and legitimate. Plus, the foundation might have existing relationships with local businesses or specific guidelines about how they want fundraising events handled. Some charities have standard fundraising agreements they use, which can save you a lot of work. Regarding timing of fund transfers - there's no specific IRS timeline requirement, but I'd recommend transferring funds within 30-60 days after the event. The key is documenting everything clearly. Your fundraising agreement should specify the timeline, and you'll want to provide the charity with a detailed accounting of all donations received. One more tip: keep copies of all sponsor checks and deposit records. If any sponsor gets audited, they may need to provide additional documentation beyond just their receipt, and having a clear paper trail protects everyone involved. The foundation will likely be thrilled to hear from you - most established charities are very supportive of third-party fundraising efforts when they're done properly!

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As a CPA who has worked with several charity golf tournaments, I want to emphasize something that's been touched on but bears repeating - documentation is absolutely critical for everyone's protection. One thing I always recommend to tournament organizers is creating a "sponsor packet" that includes: - A copy of the charity's IRS determination letter (proving 501c3 status) - Clear breakdown of what sponsors receive vs. their tax-deductible amount - Timeline for when they'll receive their official donation receipt - Contact information for the charity if they have questions Also, be aware that if you're handling any of the money directly (even temporarily), you may need to report it on your personal tax return and then show the subsequent donation to the charity. This is why working directly through the charity's existing systems is often simpler. One last tip: some sponsors may want to pay directly to the charity rather than through your organizing committee. Be prepared for this and have the charity's donation processing information ready. It actually makes things cleaner from a tax perspective, even though it might feel like you're losing control of the fundraising process. The tournament sounds like it's going to be amazing - the tax stuff seems complicated but it's really just about proper documentation and clear communication with all parties involved!

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Arjun Kurti

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This is such valuable advice, especially about the sponsor packet! I'm actually in the early planning stages of organizing a similar charity event and hadn't thought about having the charity's determination letter ready to share with potential sponsors. That makes so much sense - it would probably save a lot of back-and-forth questions about legitimacy. One thing I'm curious about - when you mention that organizers might need to report money on their personal tax return if they handle it directly, does that apply even if it's just temporarily passing through their account before going to the charity? I was planning to set up a separate checking account just for the event to keep everything organized, but now I'm wondering if that creates additional tax complications I hadn't considered. Also, have you found that most sponsors prefer to pay directly to the charity, or are they usually okay with paying the organizing committee? I'm trying to figure out the cleanest way to structure this from the start.

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This is exactly the kind of question I had when I started my LLC! One thing I learned the hard way is that you absolutely need to establish legitimate job duties and pay rates BEFORE you start paying them. The IRS looks for whether this is a real employment relationship or just a way to shift income to your kids. I recommend creating written job descriptions that match what they're actually doing, setting up regular work schedules (even if it's just a few hours after school), and paying them consistently - not just random amounts when you feel like it. The phone answering and filing work you mentioned is perfect because it's clearly legitimate business tasks. Also, make sure you're familiar with child labor laws in your state. Most states have restrictions on how many hours minors can work during school periods, and you want to stay within those limits even though they're your own kids. The payroll vs. 1099 question is important - definitely go with payroll as others have mentioned. Your children working under your supervision in your business are employees, not independent contractors.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the child labor law aspect you mentioned. Do these restrictions apply even when it's your own kids working in your family business? I always assumed parents had more flexibility with their own children, but I want to make sure I'm not accidentally violating any regulations while trying to take advantage of the tax benefits. Also, when you say "pay them consistently," do you mean it has to be the exact same amount every pay period, or just that the payments need to be regular and based on actual hours worked?

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Great question about child labor laws! Even though they're your own kids, federal child labor laws still apply to family businesses in most cases. However, there is an exception for children working in businesses owned solely by their parents - so your single-member LLC should qualify for this exemption as long as you're the only owner. State laws can be different though, so definitely check your specific state's requirements. Some states are more restrictive than others about hours and types of work, even for family businesses. For the payment consistency - I mean regular payments based on actual hours worked, not necessarily the same dollar amount each time. The key is having a system: same pay rate per hour, regular pay periods (weekly, biweekly, etc.), and payments that correspond to documented work performed. So if they work 8 hours one week and 12 the next, the payments would be different but still consistent with your established pay structure. The IRS wants to see that this looks like a real employer-employee relationship, not just arbitrary money transfers disguised as wages.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the importance of opening a separate bank account for your kids' wages. I made this mistake in year one - just transferred money from my business account to their personal accounts, and it created a documentation nightmare when I tried to prepare my taxes. Now I have my payroll service direct deposit their wages into dedicated accounts I opened for each of them (as custodial accounts since they're minors). This creates a clear paper trail that shows legitimate wage payments rather than what could look like gifts or allowances to the IRS. Also, don't forget about income tax withholding. Even though they're exempt from FICA, they may still owe federal and state income taxes depending on how much you pay them. The standard deduction for 2024 is $14,600, so if they earn less than that from all sources, they probably won't owe any income tax. But you should still have them fill out a W-4 to indicate whether they want any federal taxes withheld. My kids actually love getting their "real" paychecks with pay stubs showing their earnings and deductions (even if the deductions are zero). It's been a great way to teach them about how payroll and taxes work!

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This is such a great point about the separate bank accounts! I'm just getting started with this and was definitely planning to just transfer money directly to my kids' existing accounts. The custodial account approach makes so much sense from a documentation standpoint. Quick question - when you set up the custodial accounts, did you need to provide any special documentation to the bank about the employment arrangement? Or was it pretty straightforward since you're the parent? I want to make sure I have everything set up properly before I start the payroll process. Also, I love the idea about teaching them how real paychecks work. My 15-year-old has never had a job before, so this will be a great introduction to the working world!

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